Beta Glucans
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free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 pm

Thanks, Winnie! Even I could understand that study - my brain resists scientific discussion when it gets too involved. Smile

I also received my BGs from GOW with my order yesterday but have happily been using them for a few weeks thanks to Kristen (skincareaddicted). They are right up there on my HG list with Sea Kelp, Emu Oil, Copper Peptides, Matrixyl 3000 and TCA peels. Very Happy

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:03 pm

Thanks for the link Winnie!! I had been looking for that exact study after reading an aritcle on smartskincare and you just posted a link to it!

I wonder if Beta Glucan really can penetrate the skin? Dr. Todorov of smartskincare has the following to say on this issue (the study mentioned is the one in Winnie's link).

"In a penetration experiment on isolated skin sections, the researchers found that beta-glucan penetrated the epidermis and reached the dermis by passing in the gaps between cells. After 8 hours of treatment with 0.5% beta-glucan solution, 28% of the applied beta-glucan entered the skin and as much as 4% reached the dermis (i.e. the layer where wrinkles form). Unfortunately, the validity of this experiment remains in question because the skin sections used in the experiment were frozen and the treated with gamma radiation, which may have altered their permeability."

http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/betaglucan.html

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:34 pm

I am so glad the article is useful. I am so new to this DIY stuff that my head is spinning

. As you use BG's please let me know how you are using them and how much liquid is being added to your creations. I ordered 8 ozs. from GOW. Smile

Thanks,
Winnie

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:40 pm

Winnie wrote:

I am so glad the article is useful. I am so new to this DIY stuff that my head is spinning

. As you use BG's please let me know how you are using them and how much liquid is being added to your creations. I ordered 8 ozs. from GOW. Smile

Thanks,
Winnie

Winnie, I use it mixed in with Pearl Powder and also straight before my Vitamin C (it is aided by this, apparently). So, far, it's working wonderfully. I have done a few peels and have almost no flaking (still peeled but less invasive than before).

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:20 pm

Has anyone experienced their beta glucans turning into snot balls. Sorry, that's the best way to describe what mine is doing. The balls won't mix in with anything.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:12 pm

Yes Frodo, I've got the snot balls. I just mash them together with emu or whatever and squish it into my skin.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:21 pm

Whoa, how is the liquid BG turning into snot balls? I ordered some 3 liters and have yet to see this happen. Can you describe to me more what you mean?

Kristen

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:32 pm

skincareaddicted wrote:

Whoa, how is the liquid BG turning into snot balls? I ordered some 3 liters and have yet to see this happen. Can you describe to me more what you mean?

Kristen

I'm sitting here trying to think of a word but the only thing that comes to mind is snot. I put it in the palm of my hand and some is liquid and some is balled up. I can't get it mixed in with oil or cream. Then when I put it on my face I have this snot sitting there. Wish I had a better word. Maybe something will come up. Will think more on a better description.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:39 pm

I hope the BG I am waiting anxiously will not ball up...do you ladies think its a bad patch?

Confused

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:41 pm

Wow Frodo, Weird. Mine is completely liquid. Maybe it's a bad batch maybe?

Kristen

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:49 pm

skincareaddicted wrote:

Wow Frodo, Weird. Mine is completely liquid. Maybe it's a bad batch maybe?

Kristen

I have had mine for awhile and was fine until about a week ago. Not sure what I am going to do. I wonder if I put it in my blender then store it in the frig or maybe cook it. Actually, I don't have clue what to do with it.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:50 pm

I've had mine a little over a month and it's still a "silky" clear liquid.

I think I'd be getting in contact with Markey long about now if I were you.

JMHO

Ari

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:54 pm

skincareaddicted wrote:

Wow Frodo, Weird. Mine is completely liquid. Maybe it's a bad batch maybe?

Kristen

Kristen,

Do you refrigerate yours? Perhaps storage has something to do with the lumpy texture.

I do need to know the proper way to store the BG.

Thanks,
Winnie

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:01 pm

You know Winnie, i don't refrigerate the liquid BGs. I wonder if Frodo and Molly refrigerated theirs.

My litre bag sits on a bookshelf in a corner in my room away from sunlight and heat. the other 2 containers of BG, one is in the bathroom and the other is on my desk. they all have that silky texture Arielle describes.

I am afraid to refrigerate now even when the weather gets hot here. I know the shelf life is about 2-3 years, so i am going to stick the litre in a cool cupboard now.

I am also off to experiment with sticking an ounce in the fridge to see if the texture changes.

Kristen~

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:02 pm

Arielle wrote:

I've had mine a little over a month and it's still a "silky" clear liquid.

I think I'd be getting in contact with Markey long about now if I were you.

JMHO

Ari

I got mine in the group buy. Maybe it's the way I am storing it. My house is not extremly hot or cold, just a normal confortable temp. More on the cool side really. I thought I read that it didn't need to be refrigerated, or maybe that was the SKB.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:05 pm

Hi Frodo,

I also got mine in the group buy also. I got 3 litres actually. I have sent some to a couple members here and had no problems pouring it into other containers, it flows nicely.

and Markey has said that the liquid BGs do not need to be refrigerated. It is still a mystery to me as why it would form snot balls.

Kristen~

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:08 pm

Mine is just sitting on the bathroom vanity. I don't refrigerate the BGs or the SKB.

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:26 pm

I'm going to strain mine and see if that helps. Of course I will sanitize the strainer first and the container. Hope it works or at least doesn't get worse. If all else fails I will be making another order as I do love this stuff.

free skin care · Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:21 am

I haven't put mine in the fridge and it sometimes develops serious snots and then liquifies again. Mine was bought just before (looked like the last bottle by forum reports Smile

) Markey ran out.

free skin care · Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:13 am

I think I am going to start mixing a few drops of the liquid bg and CP serum together and apply to my face each morning. I figure the beta glucan will give the CPs a extra push.

free skin care · Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:01 pm

I just got the beta glucan liquid from GoW yesterday and used it last night and this morning. Right now I am just spraying a bit of my Zenbiotic Phyto Moisturizer into my palm and adding one drop of the BG's to it. Pat together and smooth over skin.

Does one drop sound like a reasonable amount? I don't know how much I should be using on my face.

Also, are any of you the use this acne-prone? Have you had any breakouts from the BG?

Very Happy

free skin care · Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:05 pm

Since I use my face for a lot of testing, I have a number of breakouts right now. The Oat BG is calming it down. I use my BG neat and just slather so you could probably be fine with a bit more than a drop. jmo

Ari

edit: oh, yeah, I meant to add that our great-grandmothers used oatmeal masks to clear up acne.

free skin care · Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:56 pm

Frodo wrote:

skincareaddicted wrote:

Wow Frodo, Weird. Mine is completely liquid. Maybe it's a bad batch maybe?

Kristen

I have had mine for awhile and was fine until about a week ago. Not sure what I am going to do. I wonder if I put it in my blender then store it in the frig or maybe cook it. Actually, I don't have clue what to do with it.

Well, I haven't a clue what is going on!
I just poured several kilos into smaller bottles
and the product is crystal clear, as in no snot.
It poured just like the first time I poured it.
How is yours today? Did you try and heat it in a hot water bath? I wonder what could change the chemical structure of just a few. I was thinking temperature although they shipped it to me and it was fine.
Please keep me posted. I told Panda I would send a sample of the first batch and one of the second batch but now that I have poured it I would feel very foolish complaining about something I don't see. Can anyone send me a bit of their product to send on to the company?
Thanks,
Markey Smile

free skin care · Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:09 pm

I'd love to know the pH of the liquid beta glucans I got from GoW, but don't have any strips at the moment. Does anyone happen to know what it is?

Very Happy

free skin care · Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:09 am

Markey - if the big snots come back I'll take a photo of them (one for the mantlepiece Smile

) - too far to post.

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