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Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:31 pm  |
Hi everyone! So I just started using DHC Eye Bright. I'm a chronic eye rubber and night owl, so I've alwasy had dark circles under my eyes, but I've noticed as I'm getting older, they're getting darker. I use their eye cream stuff, but it's mostly emollient, not brightening. Here are the ingredients for Eye Bright:
water, cucumis sativus (cucumber) juice, butylene glycol, sodium hyaluronate, isodonis japonicus extract, placental protein, carbomer, potassium hydroxide, methylparaben, saccharide isomerate, caffeine, dipotassium glycyrrhizate, allantoin
Yes, you'll notice something called placental protein. it was this ingredient that made me hesitate about this product, but I decided to give it a whirl, anyway. It's a clear gel with no smell (DHC doesnt use fragrance in their face care), and it goes on easy and sinks in quick. It's slightly cooling, slightly moisturizing, and I do notice that initially my circles aren't as pronounced, but at the end of the day, there they are again. I'm thinking this is a "fix-it", not a long term treatment. In that capacity, it works well. It's a nice morning product and will be good for summer.
On to the placental protein. I sent DHC an email asking about it and the replied the next day:
With regards to your inquiry, plakoenta (placental protein) from pork is derived from an animal; albeit there is no animal testing. There is no cruelty involved in extracting this ingredient; it is a natural by-product resulting from the processing of this source that would otherwise be discarded. It is safe to use in cosmetics, and we are confident that it provides tremendous benefits for your skin.
Regards,
XXX
So I still don't know I feel about rubbing pig placenta on my face, and I WOULD like to know what these "tremendous benefits" are... is it supposed to be moisturizing? Oh well!! |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:03 am |
Ohh sorry but that just makes me want to :-& <sick> But then I am a veggie (how cheesed off was I to find they use animal by products in Cellcosmet Eye Cream..  ) so try to avoid animal products in skincare.
(Emu Oil is supposed to be fab too but again I can't bare the thought of rubbing animal fat onmy face...... 
Glad it works for you though - its so hard to find products that work and suit us!!  |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:49 am |
Lucia before I even tried my sample of the Cellcolmet Eye Cream I emailed Cellcosmet and asked them about the animal ingredients. The animal ingredients are actually produced by biotechnology from a cell culture. At one time the cells came from an animal but what is actually in the creams is produced in a lab.
Since you are a vegetarian I imagine that this would still be off limits for you and I could understand that. I just wanted to share what I learned in case someone else is wondering.
Regarding the DHC products, I have avoided using this line because of the placental protein thing. I know it is not in all of their products though so I guess I should be willing to give some of their products a try. I am not a vegetarian but putting placental protein on my skin just seems gross. |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:11 am |
| I like the DHC products I've tried, but I definitely avoid the ones with placenta protein. Even though I'm a vegetarian, I don't have any moral objections to using placenta assuming it was harvested during the birthing process, but the idea of putting on my face is a no-go... |
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27, sensitive/reactive/acne prone skin, dark brown hair, blue eyes, possibly the palest woman alive... |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:25 am |
I was flipping through my catalog last night, and DHC does use botanical placenta in some instances (didn't know there was such a thing). THey have a plakoenta booster that uses hydrolyzed rye phytoplacenta. It makes me wonder why if they have this source they don't use it instead of the animal-derived substance.
Even though it seemed gross to me, too, the product is so un-gross I feel easier about it.
I mean, they make placenta wraps for hair. it just makes me wonder who thought, hey, let's put this stuff on our body and hair!! |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:11 pm |
Theresa - That's interesting - still not keen but makes me feel happier about having used it for a while!
Placenta hair wraps? For what? why? ewwwww.  |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:04 pm |
Is the DHC Botanical Plakoenta 100% plant placenta?
Has anyone used this product?
Their range of skin boosters look really interesting. If anyone has used them, what did they think? |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:17 pm |
Hi all,
I have been using DHC's plakoenta 100 for awhile (yes, they have since discontinued it for the botanical derived version). I was grossed out at first, but hey, most of us have eaten pork before, haven't we? after getting over the thought and the smell of the product, i love it. the porcine and botanical version basically do the same thing--it brightens and renews your skin. |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:19 pm |
I think animal proteins/collagen in its various forms are MUCH cheaper to source than vegetable proteins.
I am not sure what you guys think of silk proteins/amino acids which have similar if not better effects on the skin than things like hydrolyzed collagen. Would you avoid it because it is sourced from silkworm excretions? |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:53 pm |
| miranets wrote: |
Is the DHC Botanical Plakoenta 100% plant placenta?
Has anyone used this product?
Their range of skin boosters look really interesting. If anyone has used them, what did they think? |
I've never used any of the boosters, but a friend said that they weren't good for her sensitive skin because they're basically 100% of whatever they are-- very concentrated (ie, STRONG).
Right on, Skincareaddicted. I thought, hey, I eat meat for sustenance, so what is REALLy so gross about using a product that is naturally occuring, and, according to the company, not derived from cruel harvesting practices? I can see, however, how a vegan may object to using a product containing it.
really, though, I still think it's sort of weird! |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:58 pm |
I just received an email from DHC and they sent me a complete list of product ingredients.
I'm actually quite disappointed to see that their boosters aren't full concentrates like someone on MUA described.
from their ingredients list -
Botanical Plakoenta (.84 fl. oz.) – water, butylene glycol, hydrolyzed rye phytoplacenta extract, pentylene glycol |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:06 pm |
I am going to conjecture that the glycols are added to give the product a pleasant texture? I'm not sure, but glycols are alcohols, dehydrating agents (that is to say, dehydrating the substance).
But, really, I'm no chemist.  |
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:55 pm |
Hi everyone,
yup, violetanne, glad you agree
miranets--also, i wouldn't mind using silkworm excrements if it does my skin good. regarding the concentration of serums, i have used a whole bunch from different lines, and i notice the level of concentration in one of my yonka serums was 100% but it didn't have as good an effect on my skin as plakoenta 100 did. i haven't tried the botanical derived one yet, but i plan to in the near future you should sample the serum before buying it. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:25 am |
I have tried enough skincare products to know from just the ingredients if they're gonna work or not  I think that's just a sign I've spent wayyy too much $$ and learnt the hard way
The butylene glycol is supposed to have a penetrating effect, perhaps that's why the DHC serum worked better because the extracts were being absorbed well. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:42 am |
| miranets wrote: |
I just received an email from DHC and they sent me a complete list of product ingredients.
I'm actually quite disappointed to see that their boosters aren't full concentrates like someone on MUA described.
from their ingredients list -
Botanical Plakoenta (.84 fl. oz.) – water, butylene glycol, hydrolyzed rye phytoplacenta extract, pentylene glycol |
miranets I am not sure what the official definition of full or 100% concentrate would be but I do know that if all this product contained was the phytoplacenta extract and nothing else it would be impossible to put it on your skin. I have no idea what phytoplacenta looks like in it's natural state but I couldn't imagine that it would be something that your could just rub into your skin. I recall reading something similar about hyaluronic acid serums (I think that it was on EDS forum but am not sure). What I read is that what they call 100% hyaluronic acid is actually Hyaluronic acid mixed with something else (water I believe) and that actual 100% hyalyuronic acid would be so thick that it would be impossible to use it. Maybe someone else could explain this in a little more detail but my point is that for some ingredints, particularly solid ingredients, 100% is not really possible. |
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