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Thu May 17, 2007 11:40 am  |
I just had my permanent eyeliner retouched for the 4th time. I am gradually going darker and bolder, although it is still fairly subtle. I love it more each time I do it. It is glorious waking up with "eyes!" I used to look soooo bad with my bare eyes in the morning  Wondering how many other ladies have tossed out their eyeliners in leiu of going permanent and what their experience has been. |
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Thu May 17, 2007 4:12 pm |
I have permanent eyeliners. I used to like them, but sometimes it's scary to see my 'eyes' all the time.  Maybe she didn't do a good job. I won't be doing any touch-ups as I can't stand the pain. |
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Thu May 17, 2007 4:15 pm |
| i did not have Permanent Eyeliner, do you feel it is difficult to remove? |
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Thu May 17, 2007 4:57 pm |
| helenzwl wrote: |
| i did not have Permanent Eyeliner, do you feel it is difficult to remove? |
Permanent means you cannot remove it.  |
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Thu May 17, 2007 5:15 pm |
| I had it done couple of years ago but no more, nothing in trace now. It was awfully painful, mind you! I need bold eyeliner to make my eyes really brighter and lifting.But I don't think they can make it so bold with permanent's as i usually do with liquid eyeliner. |
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Thu May 17, 2007 5:21 pm |
| Who does the procedure? Do you have to get a tattoo artist to do it? |
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Thu May 17, 2007 5:28 pm |
No, it is not done by a "tatoo artist," although surely there are probably some doing it. The lady who did mine has always been a makeup artist and worked doing makeup for films, finally learning the art of permanent makeup. I didn't find it terribly uncomfortable...but when it comes to vanity, I have a helluva pain tolerance  |
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Thu May 17, 2007 5:34 pm |
| Do you notice the color would change over time? I have a girl friend with permenet eyeliners and I think her color gradually changed from dark black to greenish color. |
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Thu May 17, 2007 5:43 pm |
| You know, I'd consider it if one could do a trial, semi-permanent run first. I've discovered I look a LOT better w/eyeliner but don't know how I'd feel about waking up with it! |
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Cheers - Ruth/4sons 56 yrs. old, combination skin, getting tired ... |
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Thu May 17, 2007 6:20 pm |
| My mum had hers done in her mid thirties and it was about 8 years later until it faded to the point where the lining at the corner of her eyes had disappeared. She has had it for more than 12 years now so I no longer even notice them. |
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Thu May 17, 2007 6:41 pm |
| I would be afraid how it would look when the eyes "mature" with age--especially as the skin starts to sag and loosen (gasp). |
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Thu May 17, 2007 7:44 pm |
I do not have Permanent Eyeliner.
My friends did that a few years ago, the eyelines now turned to dark blue (it was black from the beginning).
I don't like that!  |
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Thu May 17, 2007 8:16 pm |
I had mine done 16 years old - both upper and lower and had touch ups done once. They have now faded to slight blue/grey colour. I used to go over them with an eyeliner until I used mascara again; then I just leave the top as it is and use a kohl pencil over the bottom (the bottom ones faded the most).
I haven't had any more touch ups - it was just too painful. The pain is not as bad when it's the eyebrows. |
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Fri May 18, 2007 7:35 am |
| Bira wrote: |
| helenzwl wrote: |
| i did not have Permanent Eyeliner, do you feel it is difficult to remove? |
Permanent means you cannot remove it. |
i am ignorance! |
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Fri May 18, 2007 9:50 am |
| Yes, the color fades over time but I've never heard of it turning a weird color, just a faded out version of what you had. Since I use Retin A (Taz) around my eyes, that also tends to bleach out the skin, including the eyeliner. I am kind of surprised reading this thread, that the response isn't more positive. I just love it! |
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Fri May 18, 2007 9:54 am |
oh, i really really want to do this, but i'm so scared they will screw up and make the eyes different or draw the lines in the wrong place or something...and we all know how difficult and painful it is to remove a tattoo!!
yes, my stepmom has it on the bottom...she's had it since i've known her, at least 20 years, and never had it touched up...
i will admit it is a blue/grey colour but it is still clearly there.
i've heard that if you use dark brown instead of black, it doesn't fade into that blue/grey colour, but i don't know if that is true (seems reasonable to just fade into a lighter brown though). |
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Fri May 18, 2007 10:03 am |
| I didn't mind the fact that the color will change to blue later. In fact, I'd like it if that were to happen soon. I saw a friend who got it done 8 years ago, and her color is blue now. She said it was black originally. I went to the same technician who did hers, but I don't think she did as good a job as she did my friend's who looked completely natural. |
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Fri May 18, 2007 3:40 pm |
I've got a pretty bold permanent line on my uppers and a very subtle permanent lash line on my lowers. I loooove it. I used to used liquid eyeliner every morning and sometimes I'd screw up and have to do it over. Now I just need mascara and my eyes look 'done up.'
The first time I had it done by an artist using only a hand tool - which seemed very precise but took 3 (!) hours for upper and lower. I just had the uppers touched up by a different artist who used just a gun and I was in and outta there in 30 minutes. I did experience a lot more pain, swelling and bruising with the gun touch up though. |
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34 yo, fair skin, turn red easily, hormonal acne, fine lines under eyes, forehead 11s in the pm, melasma. |
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Fri May 18, 2007 3:42 pm |
| BTW, I'm thinking about getting my brows done - but that scares me more than the eyeliner ever did. Who has their brows done? What do you think? |
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34 yo, fair skin, turn red easily, hormonal acne, fine lines under eyes, forehead 11s in the pm, melasma. |
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Sat May 19, 2007 2:16 am |
Oh my gosh. I "do" permanent color and I am so passionate about it. The procedure should never hurt. The only part of the procedure that may be uncomfortable is the first "ride" over the lids. After that another topical anesthetic is used that sinks into the open skin and completely numbs it. Lots of my people go to sleep.
The color will change to dark blue if a black color is used. This is because of the veins in the skin. And some pigments will turn blue faster and other pigments will give you several years of black only and then fade to dark blue. I recommend a black/brown combo to prevent the color change.
Before I had permanent eyeliner, I wouldn't open my front door to anyone nor would I leave the house unless I had sunglasses on. I have very light eyelashes and without eyeliner or mascara on, my eyes blended into my face. Yuk!!! Now, I'm not embarrased to go anywhere without makeup on my eyes.
Be very careful about eyebrows. At least with eyeliner, your technician will have a template to follow. By this I mean that she can just use your eyelashes for a guide. With eyebrows, your technician will have to design your brows, choose the appropriate colors and then use her talent to make them as realistic as possible. That's easy to do if you have some eyebrow hairs, but if you don't, make sure she can do hairstrokes that mimic real hair and you'll love your results. Have her show you pictures of her past work.
I'm an R.N. For someone who is very nervous, they can go to their physician and get something to relieve their anxiety. Just make sure you have a driver. The only procedure I really recommend this for is the eyeliner. It is your natural instinct to try to protect the eyeball and it's sometimes nerve wracking to have someone right there messing with your eye.
Let me know if you have any questions. Again, this should not be painful if you have a compassionate technician who will take the time to numb your skin before tattooing. Most of the time, it takes 30 minutes to get sufficiently numb enough.
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