Hylexin for dark circles
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Thu May 05, 2005 3:52 am

Well that's a shame. Guess I'll have to suffer with the "hey, u get punched in the eyes?" jokes for the rest of my life. Shame is that I'm only 19 but I look 40. I've never been carded. Crying or Very sad

Thu May 05, 2005 3:52 am

Well that's a shame. Guess I'll have to suffer with the "hey, u get punched in the eyes?" jokes for the rest of my life. Shame is that I'm only 19 but I look 40. I've never been carded. Crying or Very sad

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Thu May 05, 2005 3:56 pm

I found this when I googled hylexin today. it's interesting.....

SALT LAKE CITY, April 25 /PRNewswire/ -- Do you have serious dark circles
... not the kind that pop up in the morning and are gone by breakfast, but the
serious dark circles that stay around forever ... then you want to hear about
Hylexin(TM) -- the first formula specifically developed to address the
underlying cause of serious dark circles.
How big of a problem are dark circles? In its first week at
Bloomingdale's (they somehow snared the exclusive product debut), Hylexin
shattered sales records.
Why is Hylexin such an immediate success? Because it's the first
cosmeceutical to appeal equally to men and women: a simple fact that is making
Hylexin's distributors, Bremenn Research Labs(TM), very happy.
"We knew this formula worked and we understood that the female market was
there," explained Gina Gay, spokesperson for Bremenn Research Labs. "What
really surprised us was Hylexin's appeal to men. We didn't realize, nor did
we count on the impact of the male market. Consequently, Hylexin is in such
short supply people are paying a premium to get their hands on it. That's
totally unexpected."

The Science
What actually causes dark circles? According to many research
dermatologists, dark circles are the result of the breakdown of hemoglobin in
the capillary matrix around the eye. These capillaries actually "leak" blood
that begins to oxidize (a process called hemoglobin degradation) ... creating
the dark pigmentation that looks distinctly like an ugly bruise.
Hylexin's advanced formula helps break down the dark pigment ...
"flushing" the discoloration and strengthening fragile capillaries. The dark
color starts to fade as Hylexin helps reduce inflammation.
Hylexin's key compounds decrease capillary permeability, which minimizes
the tendency of fragile capillaries to leak, and improves lymphatic
circulation that reduces the appearance of puffiness that usually accompanies
dark circles. Skin-enhancing peptides help reinforce firmness and tone.
In clinical trials, more than 72% of women who used Hylexin's key
ingredients saw a clear, tangible reduction in the appearance and severity of
their dark circles. High-resolution photography of the under-eye area
confirmed a significant reduction in the blue and violet color that makes dark
eye circles so prominent and so unattractive.
"Those of us with serious dark circles understand the frustration," said
Ms Gay. "Dark circles make us look old, tired and exhausted. You might have
flawless skin but what people see are the ugly dark circles -- or the cakey
concealer we use to mask that bruised color. With Hylexin, we finally have a
product that helps reduce the appearance of serious dark circles and it isn't
just another high-priced moisturizer or ineffective cover-up. I guess that's
why Hylexin is in so much demand. It struck a nerve with the millions of
American women and men who have serious dark circles and want a real
solution."
Currently, Hylexin is available exclusively at Bloomingdale's. Beginning
May 23, Hylexin will be available nationwide at leading cosmetic retailers
including Macy's, Saks Fifth Avenue and Sephora. Hylexin retails for $95.00.

Please don't think i'm advertising for them - I'm not- i just wanted to post this article so that others could know that there have been clinical trials and other people besides myself have had good results from this product.
Kindly,
toots

PS:

Thu May 05, 2005 4:00 pm

I'm still using hylexin (a month now)and have had no further results. It's done as much as it's going to i guess. My circles are reduced by a little more than half. I still have the darker area near the corner of the eye but the rest of the eye area has lightened to match the skin on my face.
I'm happy with the results and will continue to use it until something better comes along. At least my concealer bill will go down - thank god for Derma Blend!
toots.

free skin care · Thu May 05, 2005 6:05 pm

Where is the circle buster recipe? I think I actually got dark patches from using a hydroquinone product.

Our state just required carding people buying beer at a grocery store "if they look anywhere near 35" (so said the clerk to me). She was really pissed at me because she kept asking for my card and I gave her my supermarket shoppers card. I just had no idea what she was talking about, I am near 50 and although I have basically no wrinkles and could pass for late 30's I thought it would take a real moron to think I was anywhere near 21 (or even 35 for that matter). It was funny though she was very embarrassed when she read my ID.

Thu May 05, 2005 9:59 pm

I wonder if its legit, I have had glycolic and a TCA peel for melasma not dark circles,with good results and have obtained prescription creams with glycolic and hydroquinone from dermatologist and cosmetic surgeon's offices that helped with my melasma. I haven't ever seen anything for dark circles and if this was truly legit I would expect that dermatologists and cosmetic surgeon's offices would be offering it. The price seems like a total rip off and the fact that emails go unanswered and are bounced back. The big ads in the mags are just that advertisements and the FDA doesn't monitor cosmetics like they do prescription drugs. I would hold off spending my money, if its real it will stand the test of time.

Hydroquinone works over time not by bleaching but rather depigmenting areas of the skin that have excessive melanin. But if undereye circles are from blood and capillary leakage I don't think it would be effective. Also the effects of hydroquinone are reversed by sunlight. For it to be effective you must stay out of the sun, use a potent sunblock and hats. Even a little slip up being out in the sun can reverse the discoloration. I've put it on my dark circles and while its lightened my face (cheeks) I haven't seen any improvement in the under eyes.

Fri May 06, 2005 8:37 am

I did a little research regarding this product called Hylexin.

It turns out the URL is reg to a holding company that owns products like StriVectin, Relacore, Zantrex-3, Leptoprin and a whole slew of other products. The thing I dont get is that they all have different brands. For example StriVectin is Klein Becker, Relacore is Carter Company and Hylexin is Breemen Research labs. All the brands seem to trade under a distribution company called Basic Research (out of Utah) although that company is held by the same holding company as the brands, confused yet? Its like they are trying to hide something?

After a little more digging I came accross some interesting online links (listed below). Read them for yourself but it looks like the FTC and FDA are interested in these people.

http://www.basicresearch.org/

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/image-sig/2003-November/002495.html

http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9318/

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=2nd&navby=case&no=959159

There are pages of stuff on line about this company and its all negitive!

I would save your money by the looks of this.

Fri May 06, 2005 8:50 am

Ok here is another link about Basic Research, the company behind Hylexin......

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff71072.htm

Here is part of what it says

Company
Klein Becker - Tree house Marketing - Turley-Thompson - Epregnancy - My Free Diet
Address:
5742 West Harold Gatty Drive Salt Lake City, Utah 84116
Salt Lake City, Utah 84116
U.S.A.
Phone Number:
801-517-7000, 1800-898-5153
Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave

(chapter 1)

1. The Players. (The below companies are the same or affiliated.)

Basic Reasearch (this .org should be a non-profit)

Klein Becker (there is no Klein or Becker)
Zoller Laboratories
Tree House Marketing (relationship ended badly)
Zantrex-3
Silversage
Covaxil Laboratories
Sovage
Urban biologics
Nutrasport
Majestic Enterprises
Alphagen Biotech
XM International LLC
Evanstown Research Labs
Western Holdings, LLC
Bydexbasic Reasearch
Bydex
Epregnancy magizine
My Free Diet
Turley-Thompson (relationship ended badly)
American phytothearopy research labs
Nutrastar
Body Innoventions
Ag Waterhouse leptoprin (Waterhouse?? Hmmm)

2. The deception. (To make the companies and products sound like a Pharmaceutical company or product and then make wild, un-proven and illegal claims about the products abilities and affects. Then back the claims with fake, false, stolen, biased or non-existent studies)

Three owners Dennis Gay, Evan Bybee, and Dr Dan Mowrey (Medical Doctor? Not)

They start off by inventing a names, just any combinations of vowels and consonants that can be pronounced, and for which a "Pharmaceutical sounding word" there is currently no domain registered.

They register the names under holding companies

3. The Fraud.

They hire a slick marketing team (Mitchell k. Friedlander and Michel Meade) Both already found guilty in two other states of the same type of fraud.

They find some "supplement packaging company" that is willing to give them a pill of some sort, or supplement product with several benign ingredients in it -- in a nice looking package.

These fraud makers then take out ads in large circulation newspapers and magazines, some left hanging with unpaid bills. (Lets live magazine as an example) where they charge $30.00 to more than $100 for a bottle of 56 tablets that cost .25 cents to $2.00 per bottle, they create many of the same products under different company names and price them at different levels in the market place. http://www. (URL removed by ripoffreport) with most of the profit going to the bottle and box packaging. They sell as many as they can and see how many refund requests come in., If it is few, they pay, and place other ads in other media and hire lawyers to protect them from the FDA and FTC and other law enforcement agencies.

Those who buy one bottle get the bottle, but with an offer to get 6 or 12 at enormous discounts. People buy more to get the bargain -- before they discover that the stuff is worthless.

Below is an example from painstudy.com

"Those who buy one bottle get the bottle, but with an offer to get 6 or 12 at enormous discounts. People buy more to get the bargain -- before they discover that the stuff is worthless.

The quantities for each of these ingredients is NOT shown on the label for the bottle. This product could have a trivial amount of any of these ingredients, less than 1 mg, even, and fulfill the legal minimum requirements by the FDA. Let the buyer beware. Rice Flour is undoubtedly the bulk of the tablet. Even though a couple of these ingredients are deadly toxic in large doses, this formula probably has such trivial amounts that you won't get sick!

Probably!

Some of these ingredients, in sufficient quantity, could cause a "buzz" or some effect, such as the Jalapeno, or hot pepper, that would fool a person into thinking that something good was happening. The actual names of these ingredients are shown in the Latin form, so that virtually none would recognize the herbs by their common names.

My estimate of cost of manufacture for this bottle, is less than $ .25, assuming trivial amounts of the herbs, plus the package. Since the bottle sells for $41 each, they can afford to give lots of refunds, sell just a lot and make many hundreds of thousands of dollars before they are proven to be a fraud.

My Free Diet Fraud here is an example of their false claims

on this page http://www.basicresearch (complete URL removed by ripoffreport) they say this

"Not only did StriVectin get rid of the lines around my eyes, it did more -- it gave me an even, consistent complexion," said Tiffany Strobel, fitness specialist and editor of MyFreeDiet. "My skin just glows like a young girl's ... without the imperfections and discoloration that come with age."

but guess who owns MyFreeDiet ???? none other than Basic Research. Just look at the contact information at the bottom of MyFreeDiet also they use the same anonymouse registration company Domains by Proxy, Inc.

4. The Tyrants.

Dennis Gay, Evan Bybee, and Dr Dan Mowrey have been so mean and nasty in their growth and greed it was not hard to find employees and ex-employees that were willing to talk. I have talked to at least ten and have a list of 30 more to follow up on in my next report.. So far it is all the same story,. The owners are “scumbags” and threaten to file suit against any employee or entity that comes near them. They have filed tons of lawsuits so they now have some teeth. Money will do that.

Below is a small list of what employees and ex employees have said about the companies.

1b. Routine for them to change labels on a product instead of changing the product for sale or export. Thailand was the example.

2b. Not paying employees agreed upon pay or bonuses. (Several have taken company to labor board.)

3b. Constant threats to employees for talking about the company's shady business practices.

4b.Many allegations of tax evasion and hidden pay packages to management. Apparently also paying Mitch Friedlander in may "exotic" ways like paying his friends, Mother and paying for his unreported living expenses, Lexus and penthouse apartment through APRL and paying him as a consultant even after four years.

5b. Selling products under false or with misleading representations and wild and false marketing practices. (Example is Strivectin stretch mark cream the is now a miracle wrinkle cream.

6b. Firing anyone who knows too much or ask questions about finance dept practices.

7b. Firing employees after the employee discover illegal workers in the company and then keeping the illegal workers.

6b. Dennis Gay Family members working at the company are out of control and unbearable to work with.

7b.Company owners talking about how devious they are and what they can do to screw with people in front of employees.

8b. Using other companies names like Nordstroms to lend themselves credibility in the market place and example is placing the Nordstroms name on http://www.basicresearch

9b. Systematic effort to hide their identities through holding companies or secret domain registrars. (Domains by Proxy) and others.

10b. False or broken promises of company stock to employees and potential partners and even cousins of Dennis Gay.

11b. Un-paid vendors or terms stretched to the point of settlement.

12b. Price fixing, Threats and actions against any distributors who do not sell products at the set price. best example is Strivectin at 135 dollars.

13b. Employees leaving the company solely for ethical reasons

14b. Accusations of Evan Bybee entering into the offices of Tree house marketing group after hours and after they ended their marketing relationship.

15b. Boiler room sales tactics. about 100 of the employees at the family of fraud companies are telemarketers.

16b. Current investigations by the FDA FTC IRS and The Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Attorney Generals office.

Below is an exact statement from a former employee.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/report54520.htm

There are countless companies who have worked with Basic Research that have NEVER been paid.
I cannot say enough about this company. Basic Research has been ripping people off for over 10 years. As a former employee, I know!!! The are wiley and sue everyone they come in contact with. I will never do business with them again. they claim to have a good reputation in the industry. Like Hell. The people who know, know these guys are scum. Especially the owners Dennis Gay, Evan Bybee and Dr. Morey. There are very few manufacturers and individuals they have not ripped off. No matter what you hear about this company if it is good, DO NOT BELIeVE IT. Maybe you could ask them to tell you how they pay Mitch. He is their director of marketing and just happens to be a convicted felon. No wonder they pay his dog and his wife to hide from the IRS.

There are hundreds if not thousands of individuals who would like to see this company go down by the throat. I hear they are in Bankruptcy anyway and will probably go to Jail for Tax Evasion. There are countless companies who have worked with Basic Research that have NEVER been paid, and we are talking about 100's of thousands of dollars here. They rip you off and then say "go ahead and sue us" well I hope someone does. Get this, In GNC there is a sign in the back room from Basic Research that says "if anyone returns one of their products to get their name address copy of the drivers license and social security number and so Basic Research can sue you."

Yes they sue customers who return their products. What a joke of a company. Class act these guys are. If I were you I would run like hell if you see their name on a product. Because they do not work and if you return it, they will sue you. And they act under many different names because they hide what they do. Please research this company and take them down! You will make 10,000 people happier than you could ever imagine.

Paula Begoun´s take on StriVectin-SD (from latest newsletter)

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StriVectin-SD: Better than Botox?

Quite a few of you have written asking about the rather prominent newspaper ads for the product StriVectin-SD ($135 for 6 ounces). With a headline that reads "Better than Botox," along with the increasing number of topical products hitting the market claiming they can mimic the effects of Botox without "painful injections," I certainly understand the curiosity.

I wrote about StriVectin-SD in a previous newsletter, when a reader asked about its ability to repair stretch marks. That was StriVectin's original marketing claim to fame, though the fame was all self-promoted, as there is not a single independent, peer-reviewed study to prove that StriVectin is an effective option for repairing stretch marks. The studies that do exist about StriVectin's benefits for stretch marks were paid for by Klein-Becker, the company that distributes StriVectin.

According to the company's latest ads, they were surprised to find that not only was StriVectin-SD getting rid of women's stretch marks, but also that somehow their facial wrinkles were going away, too. For that reason, we now have the astounding "anti-wrinkle breakthrough of the decade." Regrettably, no supportive research needs to be available to sell this kind of hyperbole. All it takes is to promise women that a product will get rid of their wrinkles and they will buy it in droves, no matter how many other product lines, infomercials, advertisements, or cosmetics salespeople pledge the exact same thing.

StriVectin's ad continues with "The active formula in StriVectin-SD has recently been shown in clinical trials to significantly reduce that category of fine lines and facial wrinkles that can add 10–15 years to your appearance...and even reduce the dark circles under your eyes...without irritation, painful injections, or surgery." One more flourish is the statement that "in fact, [StriVectin-SD] is the only topical formulation clinically proven to effectively confront every aspect of wrinkle reduction." It is easy to debunk all of this overblown nonsense by pointing out the product's lack of sunscreen; perhaps StriVectin overlooked the research about sun exposure's deleterious, wrinkling, and discoloring effects on skin.

Klein-Becker has parlayed these claims into what appears to be little more than an effort to spin off the popularity of Botox to its own benefit. StriVectin-SD is supposedly preferred because its long-term results versus the short-term results (and repeated treatments) of Botox. A Dr. Nathalie Chevreau is quoted in the ad, saying "the cumulative effects of using a product like StriVectin become more noticeable every day, and ultimately last longer than Botox." Chevreau is hardly an impartial source, as she works for Klein-Becker. Further, Dr. Chevreau is a licensed dietician in Utah, a fact that is conveniently left out of StriVectin's ad because it would conflict with her credibility as a medical doctor speaking about the legitimate benefits of an antiwrinkle cream.

The final Botox comparison comes from the ad's statement that StriVectin not only addresses the _expression lines Botox treats, but also the lines Botox doesn't affect. However, the only lines Botox wouldn't affect are the ones not injected.

Needless to say, Klein-Becker's statements comparing StriVectin-SD to Botox have not gone unnoticed by Allergan, the company that manufactures the drug. According to an article in The Salt Lake Tribune, Allergan has threatened to sue Klein-Becker for false advertising and unfair business practices. After the tension continued to mount on both sides, Klein-Becker actually went ahead and took the case to court, asking a federal judge to approve its advertising for StriVectin-SD. As this newsletter goes to press, Klein-Becker has not taken their lawsuit any further.

In the meantime, the "Better than Botox" ads remain in wide circulation and are sent via spam emails, and StriVectin-SD is now available at Nordstrom department stores.

So is StriVectin better than Botox? The short answer is no--and that means no way, and nohow. It isn't even better than the daily use of an effective sunscreen! StriVectin is merely a moisturizer with some good emollients and antioxidants, though the addition of peppermint oil is extremely suspect--the tingle is probably meant to lead women to believe that the product is doing something to their skin. Botox prevents the use of facial muscles, and that instantaneously smoothes out the skin. StriVectin-SD won't alter the wrinkling on any part of your face, not in the long term, and not in the short term.

Incidentally, the two studies quoted in StriVectin's ads for "Better than Botox" were supposedly from information presented at the 20th World Congress of Dermatology, held in July 2002. These examined the effects of palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 (trade name: Matrixyl, but also known as Pal-KTTKS, which is the term used in StriVectin's ads) and compared it to vitamin C and retinol. However, there is no published research substantiating the results, and StriVectin declined to send us any documentation.

free skin care · Fri May 06, 2005 9:16 am

AWESOME REPORT!!!!!! I only wish I'd seen it $95 ago...Do I dare attempt returning? Rolling Eyes

Fri May 06, 2005 10:07 am

Okay, so here we have a NEW MEMBER posting about hylexin...
Do we believe what this person says or do we assume that this is someone who goolged hylexin (just like some of the other posters here) and found a great forum to post their personal complaints?
Any comments?

free skin care · Fri May 06, 2005 11:21 am

is Dennis Gay, the owner of basic research (venicebeach may 06) related to Gina Gay, spokesperson for bremmen research labs (tootsie may 05)????????

free skin care · Fri May 06, 2005 12:00 pm

I had no results from peptide creams. I am also extremely suspect of any company that uses
pop-up ads and spams. This is totally unethical. The Strivectin companies do, others like Skinceutical (and some others)do not. We should patronize those who behave ethically.

Fri May 06, 2005 2:08 pm

tipu wrote:

is Dennis Gay, the owner of basic research (venicebeach may 06) related to Gina Gay, spokesperson for bremmen research labs (tootsie may 05)????????

Good question. You would think so with the same last name....
I emailed Hylexin yesterday to see if i would get a response. Here's what i said in my email and the reply that followed today....

Comments:
Is there a certain type of dark circle that is more affected by hylexin? Example - hereditary versus iron deficiency? Mine are the latter and i've heard that it does not work on those that have hereditary dark cirlces. Can you clarify?
Thank you.

Thank you for emailing Customer Service. Everyone's dark circles are different. Some take longer to fade than others. However, as you know, Hylexin comes with a 30 day no-nonsense 100% money-back guarantee… if you don't see a significant difference in the appearance of your dark circles, simply return the unused portion in the original container within 30 days for a full, prompt, no-questions-asked refund. Let me know if you have any additional questions. Have a nice day.

Lori
Customer Service
1-800-898-5153

So for those of you who've purchased this product and want a refund, copy and paste this statement from them in your email. It even states the person's name who's responsible for customer comments - call Lori and ask for a refund.

Check out this link and get a little more informed - Why didn't venicebeach post this link? It is on the same list when you search for Basic Research on RipOffReport.com

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff54372.htm

Next Since you're already at Rip off Report - search for Tree House marketing... you'll see there's a ton of comments about them....
So VeniceBeach - did you personally get ripped off by Basic Research?
Just curious...

Fri May 06, 2005 8:57 pm

i think mine has already passed 30 days.. i m using the circle recipe and hylexin at the same time, hoping its going to work.
by the way, hows the circle recipe working for everyone??
by the way, appyone, i left you a message on the 'concealer' section you posted, hope its gona be useful for you Very Happy

Sat May 07, 2005 4:19 am

tootsie wrote:

Okay, so here we have a NEW MEMBER posting about hylexin...
Do we believe what this person says or do we assume that this is someone who goolged hylexin (just like some of the other posters here) and found a great forum to post their personal complaints?
Any comments?

Well, since you asked for comments.... What you wrote sounds a bit cynical for someone who accepted an apology and agreed about the point that there is a problem with advertising on internet forums.

free skin care · Sat May 07, 2005 6:36 am

Hi:
Celeste, thanks for the concealer message..haven't tried it yet but will let you know. I really liked the Circle Buster, I felt a definite tightening, but I'd make sure to follow with a good moisturizer.
I have also requested a sample of teamine and am anxious to try that.
Ap

Sat May 07, 2005 8:34 am

Wow, tootsie sure knows her Hylexin stuff! Bad Grin

What do you do for hylexin,Basic Research tootsie, PR, write articals for myfreediet.com, editor of epregnancy, all of the above?

Stooping low writing fake posts on a consumer forum arent you?

Sat May 07, 2005 10:01 am

Well, since you asked for comments.... What you wrote sounds a bit cynical for someone who accepted an apology and agreed about the point that there is a problem with advertising on internet forums.[/quote]

Well yes, i would say it's a bit cynical.
It just seems a little unlikely that someone would come out of no where and post such an extensive report on all of those many companies without doing some follow up research - which is why I posted the OTHER link on the page we were given to view from venicebeach. I hadn't even heard of ripoff.com until venicebeach gave us the links and it was easy enough to find a bunch of stuff on other companies no longer associated with Basic Research. Tree House was the culprit in most of the stuff i read - and from the artices it seems that TH was the company being sued for fraudulent statements etc.
Regardless of all that - when i came here i gave my results with a product - not defamatory statements about ANYONE. BIG DIFFERENCE.

How would you feel if you had been using hylexin - had pretty good results and then heard that others had felt ripped off - yet you still have the stuff and it works for you? Do you stop using it because some others haven't had the same results? Probably not. And what if the select few here on this forum that have tried it and had less than expected results then tell others that it's a scam (even if the proof of that is somewhat sketchy)? So you have a whole demographic of people now that will not try it because of what they've heard - even though it may have worked for them.
My suggestion to those of you who want to try this product (or any new product for that matter) and have concerns is this - Don't listen to any of us and use your own good sense when trying something new. Get a sample from Bloomingdale's or Holt Renfrew perhaps... (i'm not sure if they will have it sold in stores in Canada for awhile) and test it yourself - then you have the informed opinion to make comments on whether it's done anything for you personally.
Also Mabsy, i get distinct the impression that you don't like me... is there anything i can do to change your mind?
I'm really a nice person and have no hard feeling towards anyone here. I just felt that for someone to post about their personal beef with Basic Research - shouldn't there be some balance there? Basic Research isn't here to tell their side of things and it seems rather unfiar. Venice beach strikes me as a jilted employee rather than a concerned member of this forum.

Sat May 07, 2005 10:11 am

venicebeach wrote:

Wow, tootsie sure knows her Hylexin stuff! Bad Grin

What do you do for hylexin,Basic Research tootsie, PR, write articals for myfreediet.com, editor of epregnancy, all of the above?

Stooping low writing fake posts on a consumer forum arent you?

That's a good one venice beach - sorry to disapoint you but i'm a Business owner in Vancouver - a mother with 2 kids. Want proof? send me your email and i'll send you mine.... mine's a @shaw.ca email - what's yours?

Sat May 07, 2005 11:46 am

venicebeach wrote:

Wow, tootsie sure knows her Hylexin stuff! Bad Grin

What do you do for hylexin,Basic Research tootsie, PR, write articals for myfreediet.com, editor of epregnancy, all of the above?

Stooping low writing fake posts on a consumer forum arent you?

You didn't answer my question... did you have a personal problem with Basic Research? Did you work for them or something? Why the scathing report if you don't have a personal problem with them - to "save us" from purchasing Strivectin? I don't get it... please elaborate....

Sat May 07, 2005 1:30 pm

celeste wrote:

i think mine has already passed 30 days.. i m using the circle recipe and hylexin at the same time, hoping its going to work.
by the way, hows the circle recipe working for everyone??
by the way, appyone, i left you a message on the 'concealer' section you posted, hope its gona be useful for you Very Happy

Celeste, If they're a respectable company they should understand that you may have needed more time to get results (or see no results - whatever the case may be). They do state in their email to me that for some the results could take longer. I would ask for my money back even after 60 days if it does not work for you.
Someone else mentioned that they could not respect any company that uses pop ups and ads to gain attention... i ask you, what is a commercial? A pop up on the tv basically. Millions of reputable companies have used advertising through the course of history. I get just as peaved as the next guy when an ad for ------------------ pops up on my screen - (parden the pun)- when i'm surfing the web, but i know how to use a pop up stopper and can eliminate them if i don't want them. Too bad i can't use that method for commercials.. Brick wall

Sat May 07, 2005 6:49 pm

Quote:

Celeste, If they're a respectable company they should understand that you may have needed more time to get results (or see no results - whatever the case may be). They do state in their email to me that for some the results could take longer. I would ask for my money back even after 60 days if it does not work for you.

Thanx Tootsie,
I am really happy for you that hylexin works on you because i know how depressing it is to wake up every morning and see those annoying dark circiles and apply heavy concealer. I think my circles are due to lack of sleep and allergie so I am not too angry or depress that hylexin doesnt work on me and its not the first thing I bought in life that does not work. It is just like all other products (just more expansive Confused

) I would like to return it but I have already threw my packaging away when I first got it. So its okay, I am going to continue using it until its all used up and if it still does not work... Its okay Wink

Thank you

Sat May 07, 2005 9:55 pm

[b]Thanx Tootsie[/b],
I am really happy for you that hylexin works on you because i know how depressing it is to wake up every morning and see those annoying dark circiles and apply heavy concealer. I think my circles are due to lack of sleep and allergie so I am not too angry or depress that hylexin doesnt work on me and its not the first thing I bought in life that does not work. It is just like all other products (just more expansive Confused

) I would like to return it but I have already threw my packaging away when I first got it. So its okay, I am going to continue using it until its all used up and if it still does not work... Its okay Wink

Thank you

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Hi Celeste,
That's too bad about the box - i kept mine just in case. I was able to give out the ingredient list because i kept the packaging. I generally do keep packaging for awhile due to some allergies i have to certain components of many cosmetics - EDTA being the major one that i look out for. I'm so allergic to it that it peels my skin raw when i use any creams, shampoo etc with that in it. First a blister then redness that takes weeks to heal.
Anyhow, I hear you when it comes to having poor results with many of the new products and their claims - i though vitamin K would do the trick by the way it was being touted as the new rescue for dark circles and it didn't do a darn thing for me. Still have a $25 jar of the stuff hardly used - it gave me nothing more than a rash. Oh well, you win some you lose some. Razz

Sun May 08, 2005 11:48 am

No tootsie, I didnt write the report, I found it online. I am just tired of shelling out money on products that dont do what they claim. I have dark circles too. I have tried all sorts of things to get rid of them, nothing works. I saw an ad for Hylexin in Star but held off buying it until I read some reports. This forum is full of people who claim the product doesnt work, the company dosent respond to emails, the company is falsely claiming stores it supplies but doesnt. It is a little suspect dont you think? I did a "google" search and found what I posted. Nothing more nothing less. All I can say is that it looks like a scam to me so I will not be wasting my money.

Sun May 08, 2005 3:28 pm

venicebeach wrote:

No tootsie, I didnt write the report, I found it online. I am just tired of shelling out money on products that dont do what they claim. I have dark circles too. I have tried all sorts of things to get rid of them, nothing works. I saw an ad for Hylexin in Star but held off buying it until I read some reports. This forum is full of people who claim the product doesnt work, the company dosent respond to emails, the company is falsely claiming stores it supplies but doesnt. It is a little suspect dont you think? I did a "google" search and found what I posted. Nothing more nothing less. All I can say is that it looks like a scam to me so I will not be wasting my money.

That's your choice so good for you.
Actually, i didn't say you wrote the report - i said that it sounded like you had a personal beef with BR.
This is a string of messages on hylexin - not weight loss pills, not strivetcin, not epregnancy whatever - it's about eye cream!

I could see you being mad after trying it and not getting results, but you haven't even tried it.
From all of the many links on the material you posted, 99% was about Tree House Marketing not Basic Research? The link you didn't post - that i did from Ripoffreport.com - clearly states that Basic Research sued TH for using their reputation and company name in an illegal fashion. BR won the case.
If all those links were about Basic Research or Bremenn Labs, i would have taken you seriously.
Anyway, i've said all i'm going to on this matter as it's become redundant. I didn't join this topic to be an advocate for Hylexin or any other product. It's my choice to say if a product works for me and it's your choice not to use it.

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