Does anyone have a good way to get rid of jowls?
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:34 pm

I have Restilyn put on my nasal folds, and collegan lip treatments...now time to make those jowlies disappear...but if I get one more cosmetic treatment, my face will be on the back of a milk carton....perhaps a good nonsurgical way? I've heard of liquid face lift....

free skin care · Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:55 pm

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free skin care · Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:51 pm

Don't know that they'll disappear, but I like the facial flex over at QVC for toning the lower face and under the chin.

free skin care · Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:38 pm

Standing on my head, or lying flat on my back works Embarassed

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:56 am

I saw very good results from Tua Viso (after two months I saw some improvement in jaws line), than I tried massage (Tanaka) and in three weeks I solve this problem for 80% (my free evaluation).
In fact I am speechless Confused

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:54 am

Kassy_A wrote:

Standing on my head, or lying flat on my back works Embarassed

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:14 am

Kassy_A wrote:

Standing on my head, or lying flat on my back works Embarassed

Same here!! Nothing else has worked and I've tried every gadget I can lay my hands on. Also had Thermage which did absolutely nothing. Some members rave about facial exercises - I've never been able to stick with them.

A liquid face lift might help, but it's so expensive and doesn't last long.

I've just purchased the Slendertone Face - so all my hopes are placed in that at the moment.

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:32 pm

This sounds drastic and I know it's not non-surgical, but does anyone know if liposuction would work in the jowl area? I've just recently noticed that I've got some, but in all honesty, I've got about 25 lbs that I could lose as well. Will jowls diminish with weight loss?? What do you guys think?

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:52 pm

kims wrote:

This sounds drastic and I know it's not non-surgical, but does anyone know if liposuction would work in the jowl area? I've just recently noticed that I've got some, but in all honesty, I've got about 25 lbs that I could lose as well. Will jowls diminish with weight loss?? What do you guys think?

I would imagine that the jowls would increase - it is the stretched skin that is the problem. Like elastic that's lost its snap! This is one of the reasons why I find it hard to believe that anything will actually "snap" the skin back to where it used to be, the elastin or elasticity in the skin has gone. Which is why a facelift, which actually cuts away the slackened skin, is really the only cure (IMHO).

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:27 pm

Keliu wrote:

kims wrote:

This sounds drastic and I know it's not non-surgical, but does anyone know if liposuction would work in the jowl area? I've just recently noticed that I've got some, but in all honesty, I've got about 25 lbs that I could lose as well. Will jowls diminish with weight loss?? What do you guys think?

I would imagine that the jowls would increase - it is the stretched skin that is the problem. Like elastic that's lost its snap! This is one of the reasons why I find it hard to believe that anything will actually "snap" the skin back to where it used to be, the elastin or elasticity in the skin has gone. Which is why a facelift, which actually cuts away the slackened skin, is really the only cure (IMHO).

UGH!!! I think you might be right, Keliu! I know so many of the forum members swear by facial exercise/massage but I know that it must be done consistently and correctly. And I just haven't gotten my head wrapped around it at this point. Kind of like the weight thing -- when I make up my mind to do it -- I WILL lose the weight. It'll be interesting to see (when I do lose the weight) if my skin on my face will be looser. That said, I'm following the Trend thread and the facial massage threads as well.

So, you think "no" on the liposuction since it would probably not tighten the skin??

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:40 pm

kims wrote:

So, you think "no" on the liposuction since it would probably not tighten the skin??

Lipo does not tighten the skin. Some people will end up with loose skin after lipo if their skin does not retract well so if you already have a problem with loose skin then you could end up worse off.

free skin care · Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:47 pm

GirlieGirl wrote:

kims wrote:

So, you think "no" on the liposuction since it would probably not tighten the skin??

Lipo does not tighten the skin. Some people will end up with loose skin after lipo if their skin does not retract well so if you already have a problem with loose skin then you could end up worse off.

Thanks, GirlieGirl! That would be a nightmare! I know when people have lipo on other parts of their bodies, they must wear a "girdle" for several weeks precisely for the reason you mentioned in your post. A "face girdle" could be quite interesting! Laughing

free skin care · Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:30 pm

My boss was very overweight and had a triple chin. She had lipo on her neck through a one inch incision under the chin and had to wear a tight bandage to hold the skin in place afterward for maybe a week. Her whole jawline looked smoother. I believe Liz Taylor had this done. There was a plastic surgeon in San Francisco who did a similar procedure but he also "scored" the inside of the skin of the neck to injure it so it would tighten up. I don't know if this is standard procedure now or not. He was on Oprah or similar show about fifteen years ago.

I've noticed that I get some drooping around my mouth and jaw if I am a few pounds overweight. When I diet, it goes away. But I am not massively overweight. If there is a lot of fat in your face and neck, then the skin would be stretched out and a facelift the only option. Nothing wrong with a facelift except they are so damned expensive! Mad

There is only one way to find out if that would work for you. Join everybody who is on a diet this month! Laughing

free skin care · Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:25 am

Lipo works for removing the fat in the neck but not the jowls. IMHO, plastic surgery is the only way... Confused

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:38 am

twice a day I practise lift massage from jowl line to cheek right after the serum routine, it puzzled me that the lift effect stands only 20 minutes,(seems the fat being pushed upwards Laughing

) I guess I should insist doing the massage in quite a long time

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:23 am

I'm reading a book atm, which has an exercise which I have seen versions of in quite a few places so am going to write my version of this one to see if it helps. I used to have puffy jowls, but this seems to really slim them down (and you can feel them kind of whittling down during the exercise).

Tilt your head back, so your chin is at an angle, and then slide your lower lip over your top lip. Then smile wide up to the eye corners and hold to the count of 10 and then release the tilt and do this 3 times. You can feel it pulls the entire jawline, jowls, and even the neck to some degree, and it takes only a matter of seconds.

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:13 pm

Sure, your jowls might improve, but your nasolabial folds and crow's feet will get worse. Laughing

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:29 am

TheresaMary wrote:

Tilt your head back, so your chin is at an angle, and then slide your lower lip over your top lip. Then smile wide up to the eye corners and hold to the count of 10 and then release the tilt and do this 3 times. You can feel it pulls the entire jawline, jowls, and even the neck to some degree, and it takes only a matter of seconds.

That's one of Eva Fraser's exercises isn't it? I've done that one before a long time ago, so figure that's who's it is.
I'm not at home to check my book.

Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:55 am

I'm sure I've heard a few ladies on here who had success with firming up their jowls. I remember someone saying retin-a and copper peptides gave a considerable amount of firming and glycolic peels also was mentioned as helping. I think the amber light machine thing (can't remember the name of it) helped someone else in that area too. (Rileygirl may have been the retin-a user who had some success but don't quote me on it)

Good Luck!!

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:00 am

sunlit wrote:

I'm sure I've heard a few ladies on here who had success with firming up their jowls. I remember someone saying retin-a and copper peptides gave a considerable amount of firming and glycolic peels also was mentioned as helping. I think the amber light machine thing (can't remember the name of it) helped someone else in that area too. (Rileygirl may have been the retin-a user who had some success but don't quote me on it)

Good Luck!!

I honestly don't think retin a or copper peptides can lift sagging skin - amber light may improve the colour balance but won't lift it.

I believe the only thing that will improve this is improving muscle tone, building the cheek area with long lasting fillers for plumping and of course surgery.

Mine have started at 50 and I have had Scupltra in my cheek area (face) Smile

- I have to wait 3 months to see if the Sculptra helps - if not it is the knife!

PQ

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:33 am

Actually Ive never had crows feet and do that exercise, and I know others have done it with crows feet and think its improved them. So horses for courses I suppose!

SoftSkin wrote:

Sure, your jowls might improve, but your nasolabial folds and crow's feet will get worse. Laughing

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:25 am

photoqueen wrote:

sunlit wrote:

I'm sure I've heard a few ladies on here who had success with firming up their jowls. I remember someone saying retin-a and copper peptides gave a considerable amount of firming and glycolic peels also was mentioned as helping. I think the amber light machine thing (can't remember the name of it) helped someone else in that area too. (Rileygirl may have been the retin-a user who had some success but don't quote me on it)

Good Luck!!

I honestly don't think retin a or copper peptides can lift sagging skin - amber light may improve the colour balance but won't lift it.

I believe the only thing that will improve this is improving muscle tone, building the cheek area with long lasting fillers for plumping and of course surgery.

Mine have started at 50 and I have had Scupltra in my cheek area (face) Smile

- I have to wait 3 months to see if the Sculptra helps - if not it is the knife!

PQ

I agree with photoqueen...don't waste your time and money on Retin A or copper peptides. Those will not help your jowls.

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:07 am

sunlit wrote:

(Rileygirl may have been the retin-a user who had some success but don't quote me on it)

I did have a slight improvement in the jaw line with Obagi. Nothing drastic though. Very Happy

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:03 am

TheresaMary wrote:

I'm reading a book atm, which has an exercise which I have seen versions of in quite a few places so am going to write my version of this one to see if it helps. I used to have puffy jowls, but this seems to really slim them down (and you can feel them kind of whittling down during the exercise).

Tilt your head back, so your chin is at an angle, and then slide your lower lip over your top lip. Then smile wide up to the eye corners and hold to the count of 10 and then release the tilt and do this 3 times. You can feel it pulls the entire jawline, jowls, and even the neck to some degree, and it takes only a matter of seconds.

Thanks for this tip TheresaMary! As much as I love Retin-A it hasn't helped much with the jowls nor has copper peptides. I have a hard time sticking with exercises but I'll give this one a try.

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:04 am

I agree with Kassy - I am going to start standing on my head.

PQ

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