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Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:52 am  |
| HOw high SPF number should we use for obagi users? |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:51 am |
| azumma wrote: |
| HOw high SPF number should we use for obagi users? |
An SPF between 30 and 50 should be adequate. More importantly though is that it contains a high level of stable UVA protection |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:19 am |
| Josh wrote: |
| azumma wrote: |
| HOw high SPF number should we use for obagi users? |
An SPF between 30 and 50 should be adequate. More importantly though is that it contains a high level of stable UVA protection |
I think SPF 30 is good, but I have found that using a physical sunscreen with Obagi is better for a lot of people than the chemical sunscreens with Obagi. |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:45 am |
| erg wrote: |
I am debating between Marie Veronique Moisturizing Face Screen (SPF 20) and Burnout Kids version.
Has anyone used the Marie Veronique? I like that it has so many antioxidants/oils, has a tint so I can hopefully skip foundation. But it is more expensive.
As far as Burnout, I have read mentions of applying mineral makeup over - but has anyone used a liquid foundation or tinted moisturizer over it with success? |
Hey,
I haven't tried Marie Veronique because of the expense. If cost is not a factor, it looks good. When I wear make up, it's actually liquid make up and I have no problem wearing it over burnout. My procedure is to first apply the burnout normally. Then I'll squeeze a dab of concealer a little darker than my skin tone into my palm and mix that with some more burnout, and apply that to my face. |
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24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:31 pm |
| erg wrote: |
I am debating between Marie Veronique Moisturizing Face Screen (SPF 20) and Burnout Kids version.
Has anyone used the Marie Veronique? I like that it has so many antioxidants/oils, has a tint so I can hopefully skip foundation. But it is more expensive.
As far as Burnout, I have read mentions of applying mineral makeup over - but has anyone used a liquid foundation or tinted moisturizer over it with success? |
I use the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 in the Light tint (this one: http://mvorganics.com/_product_83436/Moisturizing_Face_Screen%2c_SPF_30_-_Light_Tint)
I can't say enough good things about it. It doubles as a foundation, dries matte and smells great.
My skin is fair, so the light tint is perfect. The oils add some moisture, but it is not excessive or greasy.
It's pricey, I agree @ $40 for 2 ounces, but I figure I don't have to buy foundation.
I've not tried Burnout, so I can't compare it. |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:45 pm |
Thanks Nimue and ShastaGirl for your replies.
I was hoping the MVO sunscreen would double as a foundation (that way the cost would be more reasonable). |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:09 pm |
| erg wrote: |
Thanks Nimue and ShastaGirl for your replies.
I was hoping the MVO sunscreen would double as a foundation (that way the cost would be more reasonable). |
I have used the MVO sunscreen. I don't feel it protected me well. I'm out in the sun a lot though.
I haven't tried Burnout. I do want to try it. I am now using DDF physical sunscreen. I like it ok. It's tinted, so when I sweat, it comes off when I wipe my face with a towel. |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am |
Thanks Rileygirl and Josh but what is physical sunscreen? what is the difference? What containes in physical sunscreen??
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| Josh wrote: |
| azumma wrote: |
| HOw high SPF number should we use for obagi users? |
An SPF between 30 and 50 should be adequate. More importantly though is that it contains a high level of stable UVA protection |
I think SPF 30 is good, but I have found that using a physical sunscreen with Obagi is better for a lot of people than the chemical sunscreens with Obagi. |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:34 am |
| Physical sunscreens contain the active ingredients titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. They work by sitting on the skin's surface and reflecting UV rays. Chemical filters work by absorbing UV rays and converting the energy into heat. |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:40 am |
Oh, Thanks, but when we apply physical sunscreen, will face be shiny and glossy ? 
| Josh wrote: |
| Physical sunscreens contain the active ingredients titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. They work by sitting on the skin's surface and reflecting UV rays. Chemical filters work by absorbing UV rays and converting the energy into heat. |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:44 am |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
I use the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 in the Light tint (this one: http://mvorganics.com/_product_83436/Moisturizing_Face_Screen%2c_SPF_30_-_Light_Tint)
I can't say enough good things about it. It doubles as a foundation, dries matte and smells great.
My skin is fair, so the light tint is perfect. The oils add some moisture, but it is not excessive or greasy.
It's pricey, I agree @ $40 for 2 ounces, but I figure I don't have to buy foundation.
I've not tried Burnout, so I can't compare it. |
ShastaGirl , can u compare the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 to any other tinted phisical sunscreen ? Can it cover broken capillaries on face ?
Thank you! |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:10 am |
| azumma wrote: |
| Oh, Thanks, but when we apply physical sunscreen, will face be shiny and glossy ? |
With some, yes, with others, no. It's a matter of trial-and-error too as what makes me look shiny or leaves a white cast may not for you. |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:13 am |
| What do you use? |
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Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:22 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
I use the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 in the Light tint (this one: http://mvorganics.com/_product_83436/Moisturizing_Face_Screen%2c_SPF_30_-_Light_Tint)
I can't say enough good things about it. It doubles as a foundation, dries matte and smells great.
My skin is fair, so the light tint is perfect. The oils add some moisture, but it is not excessive or greasy.
It's pricey, I agree @ $40 for 2 ounces, but I figure I don't have to buy foundation.
I've not tried Burnout, so I can't compare it. |
ShastaGirl , can u compare the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 to any other tinted phisical sunscreen ? Can it cover broken capillaries on face ?
Thank you! |
Hi RussianSunshine-
I've not used other tinted liquid physical sunscreens, but I have used tinted moisturizers that have chemical SPF and powder physical sunscreen, so I can compare it to those.
The coverage of the MVO is slightly more "dense" than a tinted moisturizer, more like a lightweight foundation. It seems to cover my facial skin color imperfections. However, I don't have a lot of trouble with broken caps (only one, right under my eye, that's the size of a pinhead, I do have to use some concealer on that one)
I find that the MVO sticks to my skin better than the tinted moisturizers. And stays where you put it, once it dries. Sometimes the moisturizers just don't seem to totally sink in.
I'd say that the MVO covers similar to typical dusting of physical sunscreen powder (like Bare Essentials). But, I notice the powder accentuates my wrinkles by settling there, which the MVO does not.
Hope that helps. |
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:12 am |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| erg wrote: |
I am debating between Marie Veronique Moisturizing Face Screen (SPF 20) and Burnout Kids version.
Has anyone used the Marie Veronique? I like that it has so many antioxidants/oils, has a tint so I can hopefully skip foundation. But it is more expensive.
As far as Burnout, I have read mentions of applying mineral makeup over - but has anyone used a liquid foundation or tinted moisturizer over it with success? |
I use the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 in the Light tint (this one: http://mvorganics.com/_product_83436/Moisturizing_Face_Screen%2c_SPF_30_-_Light_Tint)
I can't say enough good things about it. It doubles as a foundation, dries matte and smells great.
My skin is fair, so the light tint is perfect. The oils add some moisture, but it is not excessive or greasy.
It's pricey, I agree @ $40 for 2 ounces, but I figure I don't have to buy foundation.
I've not tried Burnout, so I can't compare it. |
HOw long can you use this? for Sunscreen, 2 ounces is kind of too small because I apply three times a day. |
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:20 am |
| Jimm wrote: |
US companies are far more progressive in creating some decent physical SS formulas.
Not only that, they are far more progressive in creating good skincare formulas in general.
I always wonder why people are so interested in Dr. Hauschka and European stuff like that. In general, US companies offer MUCH better and advanced ‘natural’ skincare, but that’s just MHO).
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Jimm, a bit OFF topic, but have you ever wondered why French women are so gorgeous until they are 80? And they do not use American skincare.  So I would be more careful with a statement like this. |
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:04 pm |
| azumma wrote: |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
I use the Marie Veronique Face Screen SPF30 in the Light tint (this one: http://mvorganics.com/_product_83436/Moisturizing_Face_Screen%2c_SPF_30_-_Light_Tint)
I can't say enough good things about it. It doubles as a foundation, dries matte and smells great.
My skin is fair, so the light tint is perfect. The oils add some moisture, but it is not excessive or greasy.
It's pricey, I agree @ $40 for 2 ounces, but I figure I don't have to buy foundation.
I've not tried Burnout, so I can't compare it. |
HOw long can you use this? for Sunscreen, 2 ounces is kind of too small because I apply three times a day. |
I've got about 2/3 left of the first bottle I purchased. I've had it about 2 months. I use it 4-5 days/week, but I only apply once a day. I work inside, so that's often enough for me. Non-work days I'm using up some of the other sunscreen I have which is why I don't use MVO 7 days a week.
Yes, 2 ounces is small. I'm expecting to have to buy more every 3-4 months, but with the goodies in this and the tint, I don't have to buy other skin serums/creams to go under (I only use vit C serum under it) or foundation. |
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:41 am |
Thanks ShastaGirl, Yes, that makes sense...$40 every 3-4 month but doesn't have to buy other stuffs. I will think about it...Thanks again for your info...  |
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Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:06 pm |
| Hi, how about Burt Bee sunscreen? Has anybody used this product???? I found it at CVS it says no chemical on the tube. it was just $8.. |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:59 pm |
| azumma wrote: |
| Thanks ShastaGirl, Yes, that makes sense...$40 every 3-4 month but doesn't have to buy other stuffs. I will think about it...Thanks again for your info... |
It shouldn't take more than a month to go through 2 ounces of sunscreen... If it takes more than a month you're not applying enough. Just the numbers... I think something like marie veronique should be a supplementary product and go over a more cost effective sunscreen that you can be comfortable slathering on.
I think I will get around to trying marie veronique eventually actually. But I would by applying it over my "base" sunscreen. or mixing it with the less expensive untinted sunscreen to get something of a tinted moisturizer effect. |
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24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:59 pm |
| Has anyone tried Osmosis Shelter spf 29, it's my HG. It has 18% zinc, no white cast at all, moisturizing non greasy, love it! |
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:10 pm |
I was using Lavanilla and HissyFit but today I got in travel sizes of Colorescience and love it! I used it alone and it felt nice on my skin. My skin was able to breathe too. With Lavanilla and Hissyfit, they felt heavy and caused some acne if I used makeup over them.
With the Colorescience, I mixed the All Clear with the Perfectly Clear and used a brush, was perfect, glad I ordered both colors. |
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ReAura/Tria Face & Eye, Baby Quasar MD Plus, Derminator (age 4 |
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:48 pm |
| WhiteWolf wrote: |
I was using Lavanilla and HissyFit but today I got in travel sizes of Colorescience and love it! I used it alone and it felt nice on my skin. My skin was able to breathe too. With Lavanilla and Hissyfit, they felt heavy and caused some acne if I used makeup over them.
With the Colorescience, I mixed the All Clear with the Perfectly Clear and used a brush, was perfect, glad I ordered both colors. |
WhiteWolf,
Did you find travel sized of the Colorescience Orb or the regular sunforgettable? I love the Orb but would be thrilled to have a smaller size to take along for touch ups! 
TIA |
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:50 pm |
WhiteWolf,
Sorry if it's the Orb where did you get it from?
Thanks |
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I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:07 pm |
| Opps, meant to say it's the Orb and I got the travel sizes from SkinStore.com and used a coupon code (which is on the main page on top). |
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ReAura/Tria Face & Eye, Baby Quasar MD Plus, Derminator (age 4 |
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