rosehip seed oil claims--what do you think?
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free skin care · Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:53 am

I hav edecided to test it om my hands for the next two months. I just read Margot Marrone from the Organic Pharmacys book where she writes about the benefits of Rose Hip Oil.

Tried it on my face, which gave my a bad breakout, so just the hands this time Smile

free skin care · Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:26 am

I tried to use rosehip seed oil in the past, but can't see any benefit and I don't like the smell.

Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:12 pm

avalange wrote:

In light of recent claims by EDS members that it reduces the appearance of spider veins, and in light of this claim that it has retinoic acid in it, I'm devoting tomorrow to finding this!

--avalange

I'm skeptical any biological oils would improve spider veins.

Spider veins are fully functional. They are bringing blood from point A to point B. If they were actually "broken capillaries" as commonly called, then the body would clear them away and you would no longer see them. But they are functioning which is why they are so stubborn. Your body thinks they are healthy, normal working veins. So I doubt any topical would have a vascular effect, much less one that would clear functional vessels. In fact this would probably be unsafe and prohibited by the FDA. I'm not a doctor but this is my hunch.

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:10 am

Sidmo wrote:

I hav decided to test it om my hands for the next two months. I just read Margot Marrone from the Organic Pharmacys book where she writes about the benefits of Rose Hip Oil.

Tried it on my face, which gave my a bad breakout, so just the hands this time Smile

I have been using Rose Hip Seed oil twice daily 2-5 undilluted drops on the hand for well over a month now. First nothing happend, but something has happen over the last week.The skin is much more elastic and lines looks erased. My main problem is that my work-out routine required a good half an hour on all fours which has been hard on my hands. They always look terrible up to 24 hours after with very noticable horizontal lines around the wrist. They have slowly begun to improve. I will def. continue and report back Smile

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:38 am

Sidmo wrote:

I hav decided to test it om my hands for the next two months. I just read Margot Marrone from the Organic Pharmacys book where she writes about the benefits of Rose Hip Oil.

Tried it on my face, which gave my a bad breakout, so just the hands this time Smile

I have been using Rose Hip Seed oil twice daily 2-5 undilluted drops on the hand for well over a month now. First nothing happend, but something has happen over the last week.The skin is much more elastic and lines looks erased. My main problem is that my work-out routine required a good half an hour on all fours which has been hard on my hands. They always look terrible up to 24 hours after with very noticable horizontal lines around the wrist. They have slowly begun to improve. I will def. continue and report back Smile

Thanks for reporting back, Sidmo. Do you use anything else on your hands, or just the rosehip oil? I look forward to hearing future updates from you on this!

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:54 am

rileygirl wrote:

Sidmo wrote:

I hav decided to test it om my hands for the next two months. I just read Margot Marrone from the Organic Pharmacys book where she writes about the benefits of Rose Hip Oil.

Tried it on my face, which gave my a bad breakout, so just the hands this time Smile

I have been using Rose Hip Seed oil twice daily 2-5 undilluted drops on the hand for well over a month now. First nothing happend, but something has happen over the last week.The skin is much more elastic and lines looks erased. My main problem is that my work-out routine required a good half an hour on all fours which has been hard on my hands. They always look terrible up to 24 hours after with very noticable horizontal lines around the wrist. They have slowly begun to improve. I will def. continue and report back Smile

Thanks for reporting back, Sidmo. Do you use anything else on your hands, or just the rosehip oil? I look forward to hearing future updates from you on this!

no, nothing.

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:40 am

Thanks, Sidmo!

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:35 pm

Rosehip oil is more active than other oils because it contains trans-retinoic acid and vitamin C in useful doses snd bioavailable form. Its not the same as using other vegetable oils.

Rosehip seed oil will not produce a noticable change in the skin in the short term but you will notice a big difference after 3 months. Its not the same as using a 10% acid serum or retin-A cream.

Yes it does help spider veins. Spider veins are functional veins but ones with weak vascular walls and that is why they become visible. Rosehip oil supports the vascular walls and in
treating the cause of them, diminishes their appearance. Vascular walls are cells just like your skin and also benefit from its constituents.

This oil does not have as big a marketing profile as say cosmetic formulations because it doesnt produce quick results. Consumers these days tire of products very easily and if they dont notice a change within a fortnight or less they generally ditch a product.

This oil alone reduced sun damage hyperpigmentation on my skin by 80% in 12 weeks. It is powerful and it works but you have to have slightly more patience than a goldfish to reap the benefits of it.

I got similar results from using this oil that people on the Obagi system get in a similar time frame, in terms of skin clarity, texture and tone improvement and diminishing of fine lines. All without the expense, pain or inconvenience. But it isnt packaged in smart scientific bottles or peddled by dermatologists.

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:54 pm

I have been using rosehip oil daily for about 3 and a half years. I like it's moisturising benefits but the main reason i use it is because it evens out my skin tone. The couple of times i've run out of it & not purchased another bottle for a couple of weeks, i've seen the uneven skin tone/colour coming back & my skin has started to look dull again.
It does take quite a while to start to see benefits with this oil but as you can tell, it's a HG item for me.
As for brown spots, unfortunately i have one just above my lip & it hasn't faded at all. I also would say rosehip oil doesn't have any amazing ability to reduce fine lines. But for evening out skin tone - definitely!

free skin care · Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:27 pm

I have to agree that rosehip oil is best for sun damage but wont necessarily work wonders for all forms of pigmentation. Its had much less effect on my post inflammatory hyperpigmentation than the epidermal sun damage.

free skin care · Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:45 am

Margot Marrone, founder of the Organic Pharmacy, claims that a good quality Rose Hip Seed oil must be a deep orange color? Is that true? The one I use has no color, but is from a really good brand...

free skin care · Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:25 am

NotMeNotYou wrote:

Rosehip oil is more active than other oils because it contains trans-retinoic acid and vitamin C in useful doses snd bioavailable form. Its not the same as using other vegetable oils.

Rosehip seed oil will not produce a noticable change in the skin in the short term but you will notice a big difference after 3 months. Its not the same as using a 10% acid serum or retin-A cream.

Yes it does help spider veins. Spider veins are functional veins but ones with weak vascular walls and that is why they become visible. Rosehip oil supports the vascular walls and in
treating the cause of them, diminishes their appearance. Vascular walls are cells just like your skin and also benefit from its constituents.

I didn't think rosehip oil had C in it? Where did you get this information, Notmenotyou?

For the changes you talk about in 3 months, do you think once a day application is enough, or would that be with twice a day application?

I'll let everyone know if rosehip helps with broken caps that I have. I actually have been using this for about 2 weeks now, just once a day in the morning. I got a sample of the Pai rosehip oil when I purchased their cleanser, and I loved how "glowly" the oil made my skin, so I ordered a full size bottle.

free skin care · Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:44 am

rileygirl wrote:

NotMeNotYou wrote:

Rosehip oil is more active than other oils because it contains trans-retinoic acid and vitamin C in useful doses snd bioavailable form. Its not the same as using other vegetable oils.

Rosehip seed oil will not produce a noticable change in the skin in the short term but you will notice a big difference after 3 months. Its not the same as using a 10% acid serum or retin-A cream.

Yes it does help spider veins. Spider veins are functional veins but ones with weak vascular walls and that is why they become visible. Rosehip oil supports the vascular walls and in
treating the cause of them, diminishes their appearance. Vascular walls are cells just like your skin and also benefit from its constituents.

I didn't think rosehip oil had C in it? Where did you get this information, Notmenotyou?

For the changes you talk about in 3 months, do you think once a day application is enough, or would that be with twice a day application?

I'll let everyone know if rosehip helps with broken caps that I have. I actually have been using this for about 2 weeks now, just once a day in the morning. I got a sample of the Pai rosehip oil when I purchased their cleanser, and I loved how "glowly" the oil made my skin, so I ordered a full size bottle.

I would use it twice a day. According to Margot Marrone, Rose Hip Seed Oil can reduce scarring, reduce strech marks, soothe sun damaged skin, reduce wrinkles and pigmentation and improve elasticity.It contains Essential Fatty Acids, Tretinoic Acid (vitamin A) and major carotenoids Betacarotene, Lycopene, Rubixanthin, Gazaniaxanthin, Betacryptoxanthin
and quercetin (prevents the breakdown of elasticity)Zeaxanthin.

free skin care · Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:48 am

Sidmo wrote:

I would use it twice a day. According to Margot Marrone, Rose Hip Seed Oil can reduce scarring, reduce strech marks, soothe sun damaged skin, reduce wrinkles and pigmentation and improve elasticity.It contains Essential Fatty Acids, Tretinoic Acid (vitamin A) and major carotenoids Betacarotene, Lycopene, Rubixanthin, Gazaniaxanthin, Betacryptoxanthin
and quercetin (prevents the breakdown of elasticity)Zeaxanthin.

Thanks for the info, Sidmo.

(I have searched all around and while rosehips, themselves, are high in C, it seems from what I have read the rosehip oil is not.)

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:03 pm

rileygirl wrote:

(I have searched all around and while rosehips, themselves, are high in C, it seems from what I have read the rosehip oil is not.)

I sent an email to Pai skincare asking if their rosehip oil had C in it, and was told no. Just wanted to report back in case anyone else was wondering if the rosehip oil had C in it. I am loving my Pai rosehip oil. In addition to using it on my face and neck, I have started using it on my hands and arms. Will report back in a few months or if/when I see any progress.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:43 pm

I have never found a reputable source online stating how much vitamin C in rosehip seed oil, if any. Nor any reference to which form of vitamin C it is reputed to contain - I would expect research to specify. I wonder if it is an error due to the fruits/ extract being rich in C, that has been copied and pasted? I also wonder if part of the confusion is people referring to rosehip seed oil as rosehip oil?

I found this for vitamin A
"Cold pressed seeds. Organic. Has a stronger Rosehip smell than the non-Organic. Most commercial rosehip oil now comes from Chile and grows wild in the Southern Andes. Rosehip oil is the only vegetable oil, which contains natural tretinoin, the acid form of vitamin A also known as all-trans-retinoic acid or ATRA in quantities of 125mcg per every 100g. Shelf life is normally 6 months but Aromantic adds 0.5% vitamin E oil to our rosehip oils just after production, so the shelf life is extended to 2 years."
http://www.aromantic.co.uk/buy-rosehip-oil-with-05-vitamin-e-oil-organic-uk.htm

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:07 am

Vitamin A is oil soluble. Most forms of vitamin C are not. Maybe the essential oil contains C? but the cold pressed oil, as far as I could find, does not. The flesh of the rosehips does though (over here young children drink a lot of drinks made with rosehip syrup because of that, and because it also contains a lot of iron) and that makes it a real power food. The greatest skin advantages of the oil are the fatty acids and the vitamin A. It's very gentle and takes some time to show results, but it can really do good things for your skin tone and texture. I started using it somewhere end of September and am now seeing results. My skin tone is more even, and combined with skin brushing I notice thicker skin with less lines. Even the deeper lines are getting less deep now. I also use it on the back of my hands where the skin was getting awfully thin. I don't dry brush there, as the skin gets enough challenges through housework (can't stand plastic gloves), so the results there really must be from the oil. And it really, really works for me. Stronger, more resilient skin that is definitely thickening. But it takes some months before you notice a difference though!

Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:22 pm

rileygirl wrote:

(I have searched all around and while rosehips, themselves, are high in C, it seems from what I have read the rosehip oil is not.)

I sent an email to Pai skincare asking if their rosehip oil had C in it, and was told no. Just wanted to report back in case anyone else was wondering if the rosehip oil had C in it. I am loving my Pai rosehip oil. In addition to using it on my face and neck, I have started using it on my hands and arms. Will report back in a few months or if/when I see any progress.

I really like this one too!

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:28 pm

havana8 wrote:

I really like this one too!

I love the smell of it! Does it give you a glowy look, as well? Do you use any of their other products, Havana?

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:40 pm

rileygirl wrote:

(I have searched all around and while rosehips, themselves, are high in C, it seems from what I have read the rosehip oil is not.)

I sent an email to Pai skincare asking if their rosehip oil had C in it, and was told no. Just wanted to report back in case anyone else was wondering if the rosehip oil had C in it. I am loving my Pai rosehip oil. In addition to using it on my face and neck, I have started using it on my hands and arms. Will report back in a few months or if/when I see any progress.

Well this is very strange! I am assuming you mean Pai BioRegenerate™ Rosehip Oil? This is what their website says:

This fruit of the rose plant is a great skin healer. The blend is rich in the full range of omegas 3/6/7/9 as well as antioxidants like vitamin C, which together work to regenerate damaged skin.

co2 extracted rosehip fruit oil*, co2 extracted rosehip seed oil*, natural vitamin e

http://usa.paiskincare.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=22

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:45 pm

Lacy53 wrote:

Well this is very strange! I am assuming you mean Pai BioRegenerate™ Rosehip Oil? This is what their website says:

This fruit of the rose plant is a great skin healer. The blend is rich in the full range of omegas 3/6/7/9 as well as antioxidants like vitamin C, which together work to regenerate damaged skin.

co2 extracted rosehip fruit oil*, co2 extracted rosehip seed oil*, natural vitamin e

http://usa.paiskincare.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=22

LOL. That is the one, Lacy. Very strange, indeed, especially since I got an email saying no C! Well, now I am not sure what to believe! At any rate, I love this particular oil and will continue on until bottles end. (Though I would really like a definitive yes or no if it has C or not!!)

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:48 pm

rileygirl wrote:

Lacy53 wrote:

Well this is very strange! I am assuming you mean Pai BioRegenerate™ Rosehip Oil? This is what their website says:

This fruit of the rose plant is a great skin healer. The blend is rich in the full range of omegas 3/6/7/9 as well as antioxidants like vitamin C, which together work to regenerate damaged skin.

co2 extracted rosehip fruit oil*, co2 extracted rosehip seed oil*, natural vitamin e

http://usa.paiskincare.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=22

LOL. That is the one, Lacy. Very strange, indeed, especially since I got an email saying no C! Well, now I am not sure what to believe! At any rate, I love this particular oil and will continue on until bottles end. (Though I would really like a definitive yes or no if it has C or not!!)

What exactly did you ask and what exactly was the response, please? I am noting that Lacy's link refers to fruit oil as well as seed oil. Wondering if there were cross purposes somewhere?

Edited to add
This is the wording on the UK version of the Pai site "rosa canina (rosehip) seed extract*, rosa canina (rosehip) fruit extract*, mixed tocopherols (natural vitamin e)"
I think that is where the vitamin C comes in, maybe the fruit oil is not technically all oil ... Not suggesting that is a bad thing, just that we may be comparing apples to oranges?

free skin care · Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:15 pm

Firefox7275 wrote:

What exactly did you ask and what exactly was the response, please? I am noting that Lacy's link refers to fruit oil as well as seed oil. Wondering if there were cross purposes somewhere?

I asked if there was C in their rosehip bioregenerate fruit and seed oil. The reply was, No, it has high levels of trans-retinoic acid, is rich in the full range of omega fatty acids, and high in caretonoids, as well as vitamin E.

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:04 am

Quote:

co2 extracted rosehip fruit oil*, co2 extracted rosehip seed oil*, natural vitamin e

My understanding of co2 extraction is that it produces a concentrated extract, somewhat like an essential oil. Recommended usage level for co2 extracts is usually up to max 5%. It is not the oily carrier oil. So if that is the full ingredient list, it is a vitamin e oil base with some extracts added.

The make up of the co2 extract and the carrier oil might be different?

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:00 am

circus wrote:

Quote:

co2 extracted rosehip fruit oil*, co2 extracted rosehip seed oil*, natural vitamin e

My understanding of co2 extraction is that it produces a concentrated extract, somewhat like an essential oil. Recommended usage level for co2 extracts is usually up to max 5%. It is not the oily carrier oil. So if that is the full ingredient list, it is a vitamin e oil base with some extracts added.

The make up of the co2 extract and the carrier oil might be different?

circus, do you think I would not get the same benefits with the Pai product, as I would with a regular carrier oil, then?

This is the information from Spirit Beauty Lounge, which is where I purchased the product.

Pai Rosehip BioRegenerate™ Oil uses concentrated fruit rosehip oil with twice the regenerative sterols and five times the caretonoids of seed oil!

Pai's Rosehip blend delivers Trans-Retinoic Acid directly to the epidermis, which converts to Vitamin A to boost the skin’s natural healing process.

With daily use, Rosehip oil conditions the skin, improving skin firmness, elasticity and suppleness.

Clinical studies show Rosehip is effective at improving the appearance of scars, stretch marks, sun damage and fine lines.

Volcanically sourced CO2 is used to gently extract the oils while preserving the complete properties of the plant. Unlike cold pressing it eliminates all germs and prevents oxidization of the oil.

Pai Rosehip Oil contains a 100% natural Vitamin E (from sunflower) that reduces the photo-aging effects of UVA light on the skin. It has the dual antioxidant benefit of keeping the oil fresh and in optimum condition.

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