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Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:08 pm  |
Consider going to a Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) / acupuncturist. In Indian Ayurveda and TCM, under eye circles and bluish discoloration are signs of liver and kidney imbalance.
Some people have dark circles as a hereditary condition but if this is new to you, I would definitely want to check out any potential health issues versus just cosmetic concerns.
You might try the lymphatic massage technique described below. Although it says for "puffiness", I think these techniques will help with under eye circles as well. From http://jtrostyle.com/Newsletter.asp
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Now let’s take a look at the kind of internal imbalances that are causing the puffiness. According to the ancient teachings of Ayuverda imbalance of KAPHA causes eye puffiness. It’s aggravated by:
· Hypertension
· Liver and kidney problems
· Poor elimination
· Low digestive fire
· Lack of sleep
· Hormonal changes
Traditional Chinese Medicine agrees, that the roots are not in the eyes themselves but in the internal organs, like
· Spleen Qi deficiency
· Kidney Yang deficiency
· Liver Qi stagnation
Home remedies are quite popular lately, but don’t forget to put common sense in the recipes! Make eye pads using black tea bags soaked in warm water, or cotton puffs dipped in witch hazel or celery juice, or gauze squares stuffed with 1 tsp grated raw potato. Place on closed eyes for 20 minutes.
Another popular technique now is acupressure. Of course, it is wise to see a professional, but for a start Ayuverda and Traditional Chinese Medicine recommends this exercise: with your ring finger, press gently underneath the eye one point at a time from the inside corner to the outside corner to help drain the lymphatic fluids.
Modern Western Medicine recommends eating black raisins and figs every day and taking supplement of 1,000 mg of vitamin C. |
You should also keep track of what time you are getting to bed. In TCM, liver peak time is 1-3am. If you are staying up late, your liver doesn't get the rest time it needs to rejuvenate itself and it will likely manifest itself in your skin and body.... |
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Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:46 pm |
Sorry Khadiga,
For some reason I wasn't getting email notifications any longer about your thread here.
I was wondering if you would be difficult for you to find a Vit. C serum or get one shipped to Egypt. I think a topical Vit. C would be good to target your undereye issues. I know others who use Vit. K products.
Anyway, I prefer a thicker Vit. C product than straight water based ones (which I find give my face a color, sometimes a film, also sometimes ball up if moisturizer is put over).
I've had Jason Cosmetic's Ester-C Ultra-C Eye Lift for a while - bought it when I saw it in my local Vitamin Shoppe. Well, I really like the consistency and how it feels. It's a thicker serum versus a water only based Vit. C product. I have other C products but this consistency makes it easy to work with and apply. And it doesn't dry sticky, etc. BTW, Jason Cosmetics has a whole Vit. C line:
http://www.jason-natural.com/products/vitamin_c_care.php
There are reviews of some of the Jason's Vit. C products at:
http://www.drugstore.com/search/search.asp?searchtype=1&trx=28198&trxp1=81390&ipp=20&srchtree=1&search=Jason+C
So, I think my next Vit. C product for the whole face is going to be a serum like:
Hyper-C Serum™ Anti-Aging Therapy
1 fl. oz. $33 at drugstore.com
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40895&catid=81390&trx=PLST-0-SEARCH&trxp1=81390&trxp2=40895&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-SEARCH
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Oil-based for maximum penetration, Hyper-C SerumTM has four times the moisture power and lasts longer than water-based formulas. Six different anti-oxidant Vitamins protect skin from harmful environmental elements. Nourishing moisture helps prevent the visible signs of premature aging.
Contents of Complete C Complex™ (from Ingredients list):
Ester-C® Liquid; Calcium, Sodium and Zinc Ascorbates; Magnesium Ascorbyl Palmitate; Ascorbyl Phosphate; and Ascorbic Acid)
Ingredients:
Octylpalmitate, Complete C Complex (See Product Details for Complex contents), Squalane (vege), Purifed Soft Water, Lecithin, Corn Starch, Tocopheryl Acetate (vitamin E), Lupaline, Green Tea Extract, Grape Seed Extract, Polysorbate 20, Dextrine Palmitate, Retinyl Palmitate (vitamin A), Cyclomethicone, Grape Fruit Extract, Fragrance |
Then someone told me they like Avalon Organics Vitamin C Vitality Serum. Ingredients: Organic Lavendula Angustifolia (lavender) (1), Chamomilla Recutita (Chamomile) (1), Camellia Sinensis (White Tea) (2), Organic Arnica Montana Extract (3), Organic Aloe Barbadensis (2), Emulsifying Wax, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (Vitamin C), Vegetable Glycerin, Hyaluronic Acid, Panthenol (Pro Vitamin B5), Olive Squalane, Organic Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Oil (2), Tocopherol & Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Glyceryl Laurate, Lemon Bioflavanoids, Melatonin, Organic Borago Officinalis (Borage) and Linum usitatissimum (flax seed oils (2)), Rosa Canina (Rose Hip) Oil, Soy Lecithin, Theobroma Cacao Cocoa Butter, Laminaria Digitata Kelp Extract, Allantoin, Organic Calendula Officinalis extracts (2), Cetyl Alcohol, Steareth 20, Glyceryl Stearate, Amodimethicone, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxythanol
I was thinking of avoiding using Vit. C on my nose but if I switch to a serum like product like Avalon's or Jason's, I think I will be okay. But with water-based products, I think the C contributes to pore clogging on my nose. |
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:45 am |
Two items to add:
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From http://altmedicine.about.com/od/drcathywongsanswers/f/darkcircleseyes.htm
Remedies for Dark Circles Under the Eyes
There are some home remedies that may help to temporarily diminish the appearance of dark circles under the eyes, and prevent dark circles from worsening.
1. Be sure to drink enough water. Hydration Calculator: How much water do you need?
2. Wear sunscreen with a minimum of SPF 30 under the eyes to prevent skin weakening caused by sun damage.
3. Get plenty of rest.
4. Apply plain cool teabags over closed eyes. Don’t use herbal teabags, because most aren't as effective.
5. Apply cool cucumber slices over closed eyes for 15 minutes.
6. Be careful not to consume too much dietary salt. Start by learning about sources of sodium in the diet.
7. Apply vitamin K cream. Although studies haven't looked at the use of topical vitamin K for dark circles under the eyes, preliminary studies have found that vitamin K may help with bruising.
8. Vitamin C helps to strengthen blood vessel walls. Quiz: Are you getting enough vitamin C?
9. The dietary supplements grape seed extract and pycnogenol contain antioxidant pigments that may help to strengthen blood vessels. They should be used under medical supervision by people on "blood-thinning" drugs such as Coumadin (warfarin) and aspirin.
Certain foods, such as cranberries, blueberries, bilberries, tea (green and black), black currant, onions, legumes, and parsley also contain these antioxidant pigments.
10. Eat kidney-balancing foods. In Traditional Chinese Medicine, a bluish cast under the eyes are due to an imbalance in kidney energy. Learn more about kidney yang deficiency and foods to eat.
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This item by a seller I've purchased from before looks interesting:
Beautiful Skin Bright Eye Serum
1.25 oz. (40 ml) $12.15
http://stores.ebay.com/beautifulskinfo
As the skin around the eyes is about ten times thinner than on any other part of the face, it is naturally more susceptible to signs of aging and fatigue in the form of wrinkles, dark circles and puffiness. Bright Eye Serum contains 8% Hyaluronic Acid and 100% pure Squalane to moisturize and firm the delicate skin around your eyes. Two other proven ingredients work to reduce under eye bags, puffiness and dark circles. The two ingredients are:
1. Eye Resolution
Eye bags are the result of a loss of skin elasticity, causing the skin to start sagging and the small fat pads surrounding the skin to protrude and become more visible. The thickness of the bags can be aggravated due to restricted blood flow and stagnation of lymphatic fluids. One of Bright Eye Serum's ingredients is called Eye Resolution, an extract derived from the bark of the Amazonian tree Cecropia Obtusa, also called cannon wood. In clinical studies, this extract was found to stimulate lypolysis (breakdown of fat) and reduce the thickness of eye bags by 23% after only 8 weeks of treatment.
2. Biophytex
The second ingredient in this serum is Biophytex, which targets and reduces dark circles under the eyes. Dark circles are caused by blood vessels showing through the thin, delicate skin under the eyes, especially if the vessels become dilated. In clinical studies, Biophytex, a synergistic complex of five plant extracts, was found to improve micro-circulation and strengthen capillaries to significantly reduce dark circles under the eyes.
There are many serums, creams and lotions on the internet to help with under eye bags, puffiness and dark circles, and the majority come with a very hefty price tag. In the past, you would have had to purchase a different product for each problem -- one for under eye bags and puffiness, and one for dark circles. Now Beautiful Skin Cosmetics has made it possible for you to attack these problems with only one product. Since you only need a few drops around each eye after cleansing, one bottle of Bright Eye Serum should last several months.
If the skin around the eyes is not well hydrated, as is often the case with aging, the skin looks rough, and fine lines are more visible. Bright Eye Serum contains a base of 8% Hyaluronic Acid and 100% pure Squalane Serum to firm and moisturize the thin, delicate skin around your eyes, making fine lines and wrinkles less visible.
Hyaluronic Acid information
8% Hyaluronic Acid is a natural substance found in great abundance in your skin. Over time, free radicals, produced mostly through exposure to pollution and sunlight, destroy the natural hyaluronic acid in our bodies. Middle-aged people are estimated to have less than half the hyaluronic acid they had when they were young.
Hyaluronic Acid Serum is a supremely hydrating serum and one of the leading anti-aging products on the market today. It strengthens the skin's ability to retain moisture by 800-fold the instant you apply it. The result is significantly reduced apearance of fine lines and wrinkles.
Squalane Information
100% pure Squalane oil is a moisturizing component derived from the pits of olives that has the unique ability to permeate the skin to lubricate and promote healing. Squalane boosts the skin's ability to accelerate new cell growth, nourish, hydrate, oxygenate and protect itself. This amazing oil softens the skin and reduces tiny lines and wrinkles. It is reported to help clear up difficult skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis, and other rashes when other remedies have failed. It also beneficial for healing skin cracks, which are a significant health issue in the winter as germs can easily enter the body through cracked fingers/hands that have dried out from cold conditions. Squalane oil is a superior lubricant that provides germ killing activity when it is properly concentrated in the skin. It also helps to prevent the formation of brown age spots. In this regards it is a major ingredient that prevents skin aging. Squalane oil is frequently used in cosmetic preparations to soften the skin, to reduce small facial wrinkles, and as an anti-bacterial agent. It has been reported that Squalane speeds wound healing.
Directions for use: Twice daily, cleanse skin of dirt and makeup with water soluble Beautiful Skin Olive Oil Cleanser. Saturate a cotton pad with Beautiful Skin Rose Water Toner (or Beautiful Skin Glysa-Clear Acne Solution) and apply to skin. Let dry and apply a few drops of Beautiful Skin Bright Eye Serum. Allow a few moments for the serum to absorb before applying makeup.
Ingredients:
Hyaluronic Acid Serum, 100% Squalane oil, Eye Resolution (extract of Cannon Wood tree), Biophytex (Propylene Glycol, Ruscus Aculeatus Root Extract, Centella Asiatica Extract, Pro-Vitamin B, Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, Hydrolyzed Yeast Protein, Aesculus Hippocastanum Extract, and Ammonium Glycyrrihizate), Hispagel (Glycerine, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea), Methyl Paraben, Propyl Paraben, Deionized Water |
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