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Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:12 am  |
This has sickened me to the stomach - not only fighting dogs, but testing them by hanging, drowning, etc, then electrocuting them for not performing well enough. If it upsets you too, and you believe this player should be suspended, which the NFL are currently refusing to do, then please click on the link and send a message to the NFL to let them know how you feel:
https://community.hsus.org/campaign/US_2007_dogfighting_nfl2/wi8snuwzod5jwnj?
"Late yesterday, a federal grand jury indicted NFL star quarterback Michael Vick and three cohorts on felony dogfighting charges. It’s the latest disturbing news in a case that The Humane Society of the United States has assisted with since the alleged cruelties came to light in Virginia last April.
I hope you will take action today to urge the NFL to suspend Michael Vick indefinitely.
The abuses described in the 19-page indictment are almost beyond belief:
In or about March of 2003, PEACE [one of Vick’s co-defendants], after consulting with VICK about the losing female pit bull's condition, executed the losing dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal.
In or about April 2007, PEACE, PHILLIPS, and VICK executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in "testing" sessions...by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."
The NFL expressed “disappointment” and said yesterday that “we believe that all concerned should allow the legal process to determine the facts.”
Well, that’s just not good enough. These acts were not petty or harmless; they were nothing short of gruesome and barbaric. And there is precedent for a suspension: Other NFL players, such as Pacman Jones and Chris Henry, have been suspended while they awaited trial and before they were convicted. Please contact the NFL today and urge the league to suspend Michael Vick.
Thank you for all you do for animals.
Sincerely,
Wayne Pacelle
President & CEO
The Humane Society of the United States" |
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:12 am |
I also forwarded this link (the HS petition) to about 20 people. We'll beat this creep yet  |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:20 pm |
Melanie, what are you trying to say the underlying moral issue is? If your moral stance is that everyone should be a vegetarian to prevent needless cruelty to animals, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. While I can respect the decision of those who choose to be vegetarian or vegan, it's always interesting to me that my omniverous choice of diet doesn't meet that same respect; so closely does it resemble a religious debate.
There are those who don't see any difference between the murder of a human or the murder of an animal. I see a huge difference. There are those who don't see a difference between eating cat and dog vs. eating beef and chicken, but I do.
I am the product of Western civilization and as a woman, I thank my stars everyday that I was born to the western world. I won't apologize for my western philosophy or beliefs and I won't apologize for the fact that those who eat cat and dog positively revolt me. Those who make sport of ANY kind of animal revolt me. As I stated before, there's a difference between killing animals for food and killing animals for sport, a huge difference. Our caveman ancestors wouldn't have made it out of the caves had they not supplemented their diet with game.
I do agree that livestock we raise for food can and should be treated humanely; perhaps you missed the portion of my post where I clearly stated that the knowledge of how horrible big farms and slaughterhouses can be have lead to MY choices about purchasing free-range, organice meat. I don't buy Tyson, Zackey Farms, Moran Beef or from any of those big companies because I know the appalling conditions the livestock is raised. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:12 pm |
Ladies, I think we can all agree on one thing - the fact that you both abhor dog fighting and care about animals. I'm getting a little worried now that this thread may be deleted so please can you agree to disagree on any other points?
And thanks to skincareaddicted and everyone else who has participated in helping this campaign. |
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:48 am |
Disclaimer: I am not even a football fan and quite cynical in general about organizations, like the NFL, that are driven by profit.
Personally, I think it would be a good move on the part of the NFL to impose a lifetime ban on Vick for his part in all this ugly, despicable behavior. But that is because I think organizations like the NFL should have much higher standards of integrity for it's players than they actually do. I mean, for example, a high school or college athlete would be dropped for far less - integrity is something taught to athletes early on, but seems not to matter so much when they are helping their employers bring in big dollars.
I would like to see the NFL step up and ban him on the basis of animal cruelty alone, without the results of a trial - but rather, strictly on the basis of his admission alone to having participated in these activities, which no one can support on any level of morality or integrity. This would be a good faith step on the part of the NFL of taking an stand of intolerance against this kind of behavior. But as I said, I am cynical about this organization (and others), and do not have high hopes of them taking the high moral ground - unless they think it will cause them to lose popularity or $$$.
From what I am reading about this case, there is no actual NFL rule in place that would mandate a lifetime ban due to any convictions Vick might receive, except for a conviction for gambling, especially gambling on football. So he might be banned from the NFL for life only if he is convicted of gambling, not his dog fighting/cruelty to animals activities. I'm afraid that if he is not convicted of gambling, there will not be a lifetime ban and he will play again with the NFL, even if only on a lesser popular team that is more desperate for his talent, and without the superstar status and endorsements. I hope the NFL proves me wrong.
Betsy |
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Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:35 am |
Here's a link to some some videos people have made for HSUS about dogfighting--- they are asking people to vote for the best one. They are very powerful videos, and I cried hysterically the whole way through. Please pass the link on too!
http://www.hsus.org/acf/news/vote_video_contest.htm |
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