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Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:08 pm  |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
TheMakeupGirl,
Wow it does blow me away a little about acetone (used to be a cosmologist as well) I know it says it is a different type of acetone, I would be interested as to the differences.
All that said NIH does not hand out recommendations easily, and their reputation is awesome.
This has certainly piqued my interest!
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Acetone is a chemical compound (CH3COCH3), a colorless liquid with an ethereal odor used as a solvent. If the acetone used in this product is a particular "grade" or derivative (as was suggested) then it should be accurately listed on the ingredients to reflect that fact (ie benzylidene acetone, isopropylidene acetone).
I was able to find this study about acetone and the skin:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2728065
From what I can tell, the acetone disrupts the barrier of the skin by reducing the stratum corneum. This results in an increase of TEWL (trans epidermal water loss). The polymers form a film-like barrier, and the Vitamin E is the active ingredient. BTW, if the film is "breathable" then water will escape through it as well. Skin doesn't breathe per se, but it does transpire. Nothing new or exciting (as others have noted on this thread).
One of my concerns with the product is the way it is sold via a distribution network. It seems like quite a few of the posts here are from people selling the product. I tend to discount those reviews personally.
I don't think the NIH recommends this product? Rather, some research studies on acetone were done with funding provided by the NIH. I am not sure WHO actually did the research, but often companies are end-users of research findings rather than actual producers of the studies. Perhaps this case is different than the norm. |
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:25 pm |
Hi TheMakupGirl
I don't think anyone is questioning your credentials here, as DarkMoon has said. I would be interested in reading your published research articles though (you can PM me with links if you prefer).
I think we all understand that this product acts strictly on the stratum corneum of the epidermis, rather than the dermis. I believe DarkMoon's concern about the product getting into the eye or mucous membranes of the mouth or nose is relevant; perhaps rather than saying they travel to those areas, a more accurate statement would have been related to accidental contact upon application of skincerity.
Based on my research I would like to correct one of your statements, namely:
"... this product roots are in the medical arena, not beauty and they had received seven million in federal grants to develop it."
I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) that the technology developed by Biomedical Development Corporation for the polymer-based skin coating formulation was originally designed as a possible drug delivery system. This technology was adopted by nucerity to create the skincerity product. Are you aware of any affiliation between Biomedical Development Corporation and Nucerity International? The information on the internet for Biomedical Development Corporation is nonexistent, other than their address in San Antonio. I believe the total of the three NIH grants were less than half a million (but I can't recall where I saw that figure, so I won't dispute your seven million).
Apparently there was a clinical study conducted
on the Skincerity product; the results were analyzed by the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio. The results were published and presented to the America Academy of Dermatology at their annual meeting in New Orleans in 2005. (this information comes from a Nucerity document). Do you know where these published results can be found? Do you know the name of the author of this study, or the title of it? I reviewed the agenda of the 2005 meeting of the AAD and can't find anything related to Skincerity or Nucerity. I also checked on PubMed; nothing there. I also looked for information on the internet generally, but the only links I can find bring me back to either Nucerity or Skincerity websites.
I think most of us on the EDS forum look for independent research or at least verifiable published studies when researching a product. Testimonials by new members and distributors are generally discounted (although testimonials by known members carry some weight in the decision-making process). TIA |
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:16 am |
TheMakeupGirl, or anyone else who knows. I got my Skincerity yesterday. There are no ingredients listed anywhere that I can see. I read the first page of this thread and ingredients were listed, but the grapeseed oil was not listed in that, and I have read from various skincerity seller sites that grapeseed oil is in this product. Could you provide a complete list of ingredients.
For anyone watching and waiting, I applied the Skincerity last night. I applied this to my hands and entire face. The acetone smell is strong but it only lasts for a couple of seconds and then the smell is completely gone. It leaves a visible shiny film on the skin for a little bit, then the sheen seems to vanish and you really can't see that you have anything on. You also do not feel like you have anything on. My hands did fine with the product, my face however did not. My forehead really started itching in the middle of the night! When I washed the stuff off this morning, it was rather difficult to remove, which they say in the paperwork can be the case for the first couple of uses. The shammy or whatever it is that comes in the kit is totally useless. I went for my microfiber cloth to get the film off, which worked well in a few light passes. I will only be using this on my hands and lip lines, as I could not take that itching feel! I'll update in 2 weeks. |
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:43 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| TheMakeupGirl, or anyone else who knows. I got my Skincerity yesterday. There are no ingredients listed anywhere that I can see. I read the first page of this thread and ingredients were listed, but the grapeseed oil was not listed in that, and I have read from various skincerity seller sites that grapeseed oil is in this product. Could you provide a complete list of ingredients. |
If I understand the information from the various sources regarding skincerity, the original product (which was used in the tests on hand skin) contained Vitamin E as well as the "barrier technology". Some time later, the formula was amended to include Vitis Vinifera (grape seed oil). So I think the ingredient list on page 1 were correct at the time of the post; the ingredients posted by Havana8 are correct at this time.
Regarding your inquiry about finding the ingredient list on the product or packaging, I was able to local the following information:
http://www.fda.gov/Cosmetics/CosmeticLabelingLabelClaims/default.htm
Another article for product labelling is available here:
http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/label.php
Even though skincerity is sold through a distributor network, I believe the product qualifies as a consumer product. HTH |
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:21 pm |
| I'm using it on my hands now just to use it up. This won't be a product that I'll repurchase. |
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