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Fri May 08, 2009 7:51 am |
I can't help but wonder if anybody was tempted to try this on their face? I ask because isn't even still less powerful than the salon 'face' RF device?
C'mon now, you know it crossed your mind.. |
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:22 am |
Kassy - it is a good question. Pose is MUCH more powerful then Stop. Even low Pose setting is WAY stronger then high Stop setting. It gets HOT. I tried Pose low setting on under chin area, and could tolerate the heat in short intervals only. Since Pose is larger and more powerful then Stop is takes practically no time to treat such small areas.
I would not recommend everybody to start using Pose for face, but those who want to venture into it need to proceed with caution. I would say that for body Pose is comparable to salon RF treatments on a lower side of a scale, and for face it is more then enough. |
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Fri May 08, 2009 3:51 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
I can't help but wonder if anybody was tempted to try this on their face? I ask because isn't even still less powerful than the salon 'face' RF device?
C'mon now, you know it crossed your mind.. |
After speaking to the technical specialists at Ultragen Ltd, I asked the same question.
You should NEVER use Pose on your face - Pose works by deep heating tissue and fat cells to reduce them and in parallel tighten the collagen structure. STOP works but very gently heating tissue, with a very controlled frequency/wave depth, without every burning FAT, even if you have the STOP on low or high you will get the same effect. With POSE you will get a better result on High/Med than Low as this setting controls the temp. But always start on Low with Pose and slowly build up.
Never use POSE on your face!
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:28 pm |
[quote]Never use POSE on your face![/quote]
that makes sense. The real spa RF machine treatment "zap" is a searing burn, but the time involved is micro miniscule and controlled exactly by the expensive computer that runs the machine.
The burn starts and is finished before you can complete the thought, "whew! that's hot."
RF doesn't hit every single inch of skin, either. the head is controlled by its size and the operator to leave untouched patches between burns. I forgot why - something to do with healing or scarring. When the treatment is finished I have an impressive pattern of welts that makes my skin look quilted. |
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Sun May 10, 2009 12:26 am |
Toby wrote: |
PQ can you share results with the Pose at this point????
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Toby - in a nutshell - POSE does exactly says on the box.
My stubborn little areas I wanted to burn fat from and firm are now done - I have gone down to maintenance.
Worth every penny!
PQ. |
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pootle01
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Thu May 14, 2009 1:12 pm |
Hi,I bought a pose about a week ago,only used it 3 times so far,as its an every other day thing,too soon to judge any results yet but keeping everything crossed.I'm using it on my saddlebags,they're not massive but hoping its gonna be an alternative to lipo.I recently had vaser lipo on abdominal area and its not nice,I was supposed to have legs done at the same time but I'd had enough.I'm posting this as I went for my check up today and asked the Dr about tripollar,sure enough he confirmed it works,I also asked him about getting a cheaper prep gel as its £49 for 130ml from the pose folks.He told me in his salon they use basic OLIVE OIL...as its only the lubrication its actually needed for.Thought I'd pass this on as £49 is a bit much especially when you're doing large leg areas.It doesn't go very far. |
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Mon May 07, 2012 2:53 pm |
DebM wrote: |
Are you ladies still seeing results with this? I'm ready to order one. Would it help with crepey underarm skin? |
Also, to remind posters, the men also use these devices and have spent a lot of time posting to the forums to help ladies and men.
thanks,
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 am |
photoqueen wrote: |
DebM wrote: |
Are you ladies still seeing results with this? I'm ready to order one. Would it help with crepey underarm skin? |
Also, to remind posters, the men also use these devices and have spent a lot of time posting to the forums to help ladies and men.
thanks,
PQ |
I have been on this forum since 2007 and I find PQ's reviews on devices the best ever! They are detailed and complete. Keep the reviews rolling PQ..... we are so fortunate to have you here! |
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noale
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Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:06 am |
I actually do see improvement in cellulite after checking out my before&after photos. Now after the 6th treatment I can say that my cellulite improved, moreover the stretch marks have reduced substantially!
As of now I see no results with my measures, but now I plan to start working out more and changing my nutrition. If anyone have more tips to help improve results I'll be happy to hear!
Also I'm willing to provide some of mt B&A photos.
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:42 pm |
The Stop device is not designed to cause fat reduction but to increase collagen production. The temperature of the unit isn't high enough for fat reduction. I have use the Stop on my face and neck for three years and haven't had any fat reduction and there is not suppose to be.
The Pose is designed to heat at a higher level and is designed for the parts of the body that you aren't asking about. It works well if used often for thighs for cellulite but again you aren't asking about that. |
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Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:40 am |
If I can add my .02 regarding using the professional services for cellulite/fat loss. I had already mentioned this but will review it again.
I went to 2 different spas where I was measured and shown fantastic results of other's fat and cellulite loss (photos). I paid 900 cdn. for a series of 10 treatments where they used RF and gel (velawave?) - sessions were if I recall - about 40 mins. I didn't see any difference though they did measure me again using a tighter grip of the tape measure - haha.
Then I went to an upscale medical spa, spent 650. x 2 for two for "thermage" using RF and caster oil gel. Again they measure me differently, gawd. I recall the machine was super hot at the sessions and I felt like it was burning me. However despite their claims that results would be noticeable in 6-8 weeks, I came back to them after that time and complained. I asked for one more session at a reduced cost, which they allowed me to do. Really, if there was a difference, it was pretty subtle. Paying that much money I expected to be wowed.
I do find it pretty funny that the measuring style was odd. My hips measured 37.5 inches at the widest point (me at home measuring, the "before") yet they claimed I was 39 inches with their measuring tape, and I somehow magically lost 15 inches with their therapy!! Measuring myself again for their "after" I did not notice any appreciable loss. Also, they measure in about umpteen different places so that when they add them all up it looks more impressive.
What I can say works is: find a good quality caffeine, retinol, or other active ingredient fat and cell loss gel or cream, and use that consistently with the POSE. I did a 12 day master cleanse after Christmas to shed some pounds, did the gel everyday as well as 10 consecutive days of tri pollar. The results are better than any other method (for me). My cellulite is almost gone, but its a maintenance issue now. Good luck to all! |
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