Carole Maggio's No Lipo Lipo
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free skin care · Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:02 pm

Just wondering whether anyone had purchased the dvd from the Maggio website, and what they thought of it. This is the blurb from the website:

No Lipo Lipo is an amazing knuckle-massage like treatment which breaks down and smoothes the cellulite and fatty deposits. The skin will firm and tone. In spa the average inch loss is 15 inches in 5 weeks, 2 sessions weekly. Our Dry Brushing technique is also demonstrated using our sisal mitt and strap which strengthens the connective tissue and firms the skin. Your skin will feel like silk and look amazingly younger. This technique can be performed on yourself. See it on YouTube here.

free skin care · Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:13 am

sister sweets wrote:

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How many of you actually use an oil for the knuckle massage?

I'm not dealing with back fat - just want to keep legs and tummy toned in addition to weight lifting.
My plan is to get the DVD, the sisal mitt and the face mit (for the facial exfoliation).

I got the dvd and sisal mitt and that is all and I am very satisfied. You do need oil for the masssage but I use coconut or other oil that I have...you need the gliding action that oil provides. I am only after thigh cellulite but i am doing the tummy and arms to keep things looking good! Laughing

Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:42 am

sister sweets -
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Hi,
I mostly use the mitt, not the strap. I don't have back fat either & just use the back strap on my bum.
I don't always use Carol's vitamin e oil- I've been using Nivea Skin Firming lotion, it provides enough slip for me. Any oil or good lotion should be fine. Call me crazy but I've been giving myself a quick massage without oil or lotion when I go the the bathroom at work. (I'm a time challenged person.)
HTH,
Reggie

free skin care · Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:52 am

Count me in on loving the sisal mitt and strap Carole sells. I have used brushes specifically for the purpose of dry-brushing for several years and the sisal mitt not only feels so much better but it makes my skin much silkier. And the strap is heaven - well, for me it is! I absolutely love rubbing it across my back because it feels fabulous and gets every little spot that I used to strain to reach with a handled brush.

I think an certain amount of slip is required over most areas to successfully use the knuckle massage technique, but it doesn't need to be provided by oil if you dislike oil. Use a lotion you like.

free skin care · Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:59 am

midwestgal wrote:

I'd like to also chime in on the awesome quality of the loofa mitts . I've been dry brushing with a brush for approx. four years and store bought loofas and I never got the smooth, silky skin like I have with these loofa's. I was wondering if I could find the same brand somewhere else cheaper but these will probably last me a very long time.

An update on the massage, I've did my 9th treatment yesterday, been concentrating solely on my thighs/love handles. I honestly don't see a difference yet but I have stubborn cellulite that's been with me for years so I will keep plugging away with this.
Best of luck to everyone, Reggie

Hi Midwest gal,

You are so right about the louffas lasting a long time. I had my last one for 3 years! It was only because I didn't rinse it often enough that it got too stretched out that I needed to buy a new one! They are imported from Germany & are awesome. The new facial beauty louffas are great too! I just used the new bamboo/linen facial louffa last night & my face feels like a baby's bottom. My face appears more firm & lifted this morning than last night ~ so there IS something to this dry brushing technique. Stick with the No Lipo, Lipo program ~ it absolutely works! I have noticed a marked decrease in the size & tone of my thighs, calves and arms since starting to use the program. I am pretty thin (5'7" 128 lbs.), but I had cellulite and had eliminated nearly all of it in 10 treatments. However, I still continue to see marked improvements, which really keeps me motivated! I do exercise daily, but am not lifting heavy weights or anything, just light weights for my arms. However, my arms are looking buff as though I've started a more intense weight lifting program. Yay! The front of my thighs are looking more toned & taut since starting with the NLL knuckle massage. I have not lost weight, nor changed my diet at all (still eat my desert after dinner!) I still have a tiny bit of cellulite, but in some light, it appears like I have none (if you know what I mean!?) One of the main issues I've been dealing with since peri-menopause is thinning, aging skin. The dry brushing combined with the massage has definitely turned back the clock on my skin. I couldn't be more pleased!! Soooo ladies ~ keep with the program and it wouldn't hurt to at least cut back on carbs after 5 pm either, because after all, cellulite is indeed stubborn stored fat. Best wishes to all, Aprile

Smile

free skin care · Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:57 pm

Sis,
Toby here, and not as experienced as Aprile, but what I do is start my bath water and start my skin brushing with the mitt, apply oil and do the massage and by the time I am finished my bath water is nice and full for my bath.....maybe 10 minutes????It works great in my schedule. I must tell you something funny that happened last night. I was going through this little routine with the skin brushing and massage and at one point you do a slight slapping on the tummy and I was doing that and heard this roar of laughter...... my husband was standing behind me laughing hysterically Rolling Eyes

boy was I embarrassed Embarassed

I told him that I was going to be cellulite free...... he then ask me what tree I had fallen out of Laughing

Oh well what does he know Laughing

free skin care · Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:09 pm

majorb wrote:

Thanks for the helpful answers!

aprile - When you say "per area", do you mean per patch of skin of a certain size or, for example, lower leg, upper arm etc, please?

I'm coming around to the idea of buying this when I have a bit of cash to spare. It's sounding good.

Hi Majorb,

The per area that I am referring to is for example: ankle up to the knee, knee to the thigh, outer thigh, inner thigh, back of the thigh, etc. You need to address each area separately. But, If you've my previous post, it only took me 6 minutes to perform the entire routine. This program is a knuckle massage which you do using any cream or oil you might have. Carole also sells e oil, but you don't need to purchase that to get the job done.

Best, Aprile

free skin care · Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:26 pm

Sister,

I currently just do the massage on my upper arms. Just really a time thing, I do it in the shower with soap. NLL is awesome, just the dry brushing has helped my improve my thigh cellulite by about 30%. I am not really consistant and I use shower gloves, so I am looking forward to more results when I get my louffa and do the massage.

Since doing my arms, I can really see a difference in that wrinkly elbow area, it has really toned up that area.

Great purchase for $40 and I actually have the quickest results with Facercise, although I mix in FE and LouLou's ageless.

free skin care · Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:17 pm

sister sweets wrote:

For the cost of the dvd and for the super motivated she might mention that you could use up to 40 strokes if you wanted to. A range is always understandable. That said - Thank you Aprile for telling us and I will try to do the 40 when/as I can. I am so glad we have you for giving us the rest of the story... thank you thank you.

Sister ~ To clarify: Carole stated to me that she performs 40 strokes on her clients at her spa. It is NOT necessary to perform 40 in order to see results ~ 30 will suffice. However, 40 certainly will not hurt. You can also decide to perform the routine every day and see results much quicker if you wanted. There are no side effects using the NLL routine. The knuckle massage is safe and digging in helps break down the connective tissue & therefore targets the cellulite better than anything else. The recommendations she gives are based on results achieved using 30 strokes and 40 knuckle massages per area. She needed to put a recommendation on her dvd as a guideline. However, it is not etched in stone, and there are no side effects from performing the routine more often than recommended. FYI Endermologie does not really work to break down and eliminate cellulite due to the flat back and forth motion. It can also cause damage to the skin and even lumpiness. HTH! Aprile

free skin care · Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:20 am

Ordering the No Lipo Lipo and the louffas is the single best thing I have done for myself in AGES, and one of the best tips to come out of EDS yet! I dry brushed my entire bod today for the first time, and I cannot describe how good it felt. Almost as good as someone giving me a massage.

You former dry brush users were right...these sisal louffas have got it all over the old Yerba Prima dry brush. I've tried using a brush off and on since about 1986, and I never liked it. The thing hurt, and it simply wasn't conducive to making dry brushing a part of my self-care routine. But the louffas I'm looking forward to using once per day. They are FANTASTIC, even if it did take me about 20 minutes (I did 40 strokes per area) and gave me quite the upper-arm workout. Hopefully as I get better at it, it will take less time and my arms will get into better shape. Razz

TheresaMary, thanks so much for starting this thread! Very Happy

And thanks, Aprile, for the louffa care tips!

free skin care · Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:48 pm

Hi Herama,

You sure have done your homework on cellulite and I agree with everything you've said. I feel your pain too as my skin is thinner since peri-menopause and it was so annoying & was making me feel pretty bummed. Even using natural hormones didn't help with the skin on my arms and legs. They just looked crinkly and the skin seemed thinner. Even though I am very thin, I still had some cellulite on the front of my thighs. I will say that I believe that facial skin is different in how it responds. Because we can see great changes with facial exercises, certain serums and dry brushing. The skin of the face is attached to the muscle and responds rather quickly to facial exercises. Using 30 circular motions per area with the facial louffas, I have generated new collagen and hence created thicker facial skin. I most definitely see it!! The skin of my face is more toned, lifted and YES thicker!! You must keep the faith!! Since using the NLL technique, my cellulite has improved tremendously!! To be honest, it took me more than 10 treatments before it looked this good. Also, my body is more toned & lifted too since I've been dry brushing every day without fail (30-40 scrubs per area) and about 15-20 NLL treatments. Make sure you do 40 knuckle massages per area. I know you don't have the dvd so I am telling you ~ you need to do 40 back and forth knuckle scrubs per area. You actually need to divide the front of thigh into 3 sections. The front, inner and outer thigh areas, then the back. Carole shows you on the dvd how to lock your hands together interlockng your thumbs to perform the massage action. I know this will surely sound as though I am touting only Carole's products, but others here will agree. Her louffas just work better than others including the yerba? ~ as in they produce much better results. They stimulate collagen production as well & my facial and body skin appears to have thickened. From what you have said here ~ it appears that you are doing well with diet and exercise. What you need is time to see those improvements! With regards to thinking those dents look deeper ~ I have noticed that just after I do the NLL it looks worse immediately after but then not long after it looks better again. Not sure why this is other than breaking down the fat makes it look more lumpy at first. Then you need to flush it out of your system by drinking water or just waiting for nature to take its course. HTH Aprile

free skin care · Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:31 pm

Tonia wrote:

Someone mentioned earlier that NLL doesn't work as well in the shower. Well, I had been doing NLL in the shower and decided to try it with just oil on dry skin and I have to say I agree. It works better that way. It feels like I'm working the skin more.
I also got bruising at first but decided to massage a little lighter. Now I don't bruise as much.
I do see a difference in inches when I am consistent. Overall my clothes are looser and I don't have the muffin top. Unfortunately, I have to be consistent or it comes back. When I take a week off, I can really tell.

Tonia ~ Performing the NLL technique in the shower will not provide enough friction, nor will it allow for you to dig in as much. When you dig in more, you can break down the fibrous tissues and get to the fat!!! Best regards, Aprile

free skin care · Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:05 pm

Jackie284 wrote:

Hi everyone,

has anyone tried this with the little cellulite massage tools you can buy ? Also, do you guys do body brushing aswell, or can you achieve results without it ?

many thanks

Jackie xx

I have started to combine the dry skin brushing (part 1 of No Lipo Lipo) with cupping instead of the knuckle massage -- my arms just get too tired to do an effective massage in part 2 of No Lipo Lipo. I thought I would experiment with the Baguanfa Rubber Cups from cuppingtherapy.org. I tried using the cups for the first time tonight and it seemed more effective on my thighs than my weak massage -- but I had to be very careful not to apply too much suction because it could be painful. I managed not to bruise myself but I'm really encouraged by this combo.

free skin care · Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:28 am

Just wanted to copy this from Carole's newsletter as I think she has really given some excellent advice here:

People always compliment me on how great my skin looks and ask about my personal beauty regimen. To start off the New Year on the right foot, I thought I’d share my daily beauty routine with you. The first thing I do in the morning is exfoliate my entire body. Using the Horsehair Mitt, I performs 60 back and forth scrubs per area. Even though my No Lipo Lipo DVD states 30 per area, I’ve found that more is actually better. As a result, my skin (at 64) is toned, tightened and lifted.

I also use the Sisal Louffa Strap to address the back of my body. Using a back and forth motion, I start at my ankles and work my way up to my neck. Next, I exfoliate my face using the Bamboo Glove ~ using 30 circular motions around my entire face and neck. My face is now exfoliated, glowing and ready to receive the skincare products. First, I spray my face, neck and the tops of my hands with the Heavy Water Spritz, then apply a thin layer of Vitamin E Oil to all three areas. I then apply the EGF Serum (on alternate days I apply the Vitamin C Serum), then the EGF Repair Cream (on alternate days I use theUltra Hyraluronic Moisture Cream orthe Advanced Anti-Aging Cream). Next, I squeeze a pea size amount of sunscreen into the palm of my hand and combined with a spritz of the Heavy Water and apply to my face, neck and tops of my hands. I give all areas a final spritz of Heavy Water before leaving the house. All of these products have maximum antioxidant benefits and truly feed the skin and protect it from future free radical damage.

Three times a week I use the Anti-Aging Moisture Mask, leaving it on my skin for a full 10 minutes. Every 10 days, I use the Face Lift To Go Mask. This mask exfoliates, tones, tightens, and lifts the skin of the face, neck and even the tops of your hands. I then perform one set of the ULTIMATE Facercise exercises. I personally use one of the CDs in order to really push myself. The morning is when I consume most of my carbohydrates. The reason for this is simple, excess carbohydrates can cause inflammation and wrinkles. According to Dr. Nicholas Perricone, “Cut out sugar and carbs on Monday, and by Thursday, you’ll look younger.” Also, never consume carbs after 5 pm if you want to keep cellulite at bay and keep your skin looking its personal best.

In the evening, I cleanse my skin with the Creamy Milk Cleanser and pat it dry. I exfoliate again using the Beauty Face Mitt, performing 30 circular motions around my entire face and neck. I allow my skin to dry for 30 minutes before applying the Retinol Cream to my entire face, neck and the tops of my hands. I then complete another set of the ULTIMATE Facercise exercises. Next, I perform my No Lipo Lipo Knuckle Massage Technique using 60-80 back and forth scrubs per area. In the DVD it states to use 30 scrubs per area, but like I said, I’ve found more is actually better. As a result, my skin is cellulite free, toned, tightened, lifted and unlined. There are other things I could talk about, but there’s just not enough space in the newsletter.

free skin care · Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:15 pm

Hi Miranda,

In terms of improving cellulite, I definitely got somewhere between small to moderate results from NLL. Similarly, from doing intense outer leg exercises *while* doing deep breathing (the key being that the two done together was the key; Lifelift or another deep breathing program would be good) and from usingwww.pureinsideout.com's derivative bath (particular type of cold water bath).

But, for me in particular, more of my results came from eating a raw food diet with high-fruit and very high greens with low fat--I know, not a popular response, but I have to be honest Smile

. But my cellulite + my 40-lb weight gain years ago specifically all came from very toxic medication in a 14-month period, so the nature of my cellulite might be very different than other people's. That is, I might necessary need to eat a low toxin diet in order for my liver to initiate phase 2 detoxification that would allow me to get rid of cellulite, while another person might not have to do something this extreme to get rid of their cellulite. I suspect it is at least somewhat individual, depending on what caused the collagen and tissue breakdown in the first place.

So in sum, I would recommend the NLL program and I do think it is effective, and I am sold on the general health benefits of that and similar types of massage for skin health. But it is not the thing that made the biggest difference for me personally.

HTH Smile

free skin care · Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:23 am

This is Miranda wrote:

Is this true? No food after 5pm? I thought it was just carbs or something.
There's no way I can fit in my required calorie intake between just 8am - 5pm. There seems to be an assumption weight loss is needed.

Can't remember it exactly but its something along those lines.... but I remember them being detailed, but don't have the papers in front of me, so you might be correct Miranda.

This is Miranda wrote:

T-Tapp is something someone else suggested also although she said it's long body, short legs that suffer from cellulite on thighs (hour glass). I'll do some searching on EDS/google for this also. Very interesting what you say about knees causing the inner thighs to collapse. I have good muscles but my skin just doesn't hold everything in place.
I do wonder just how much exercise needs to be done to rid yourself of C., I was massively into weights, step, cycling, pilates, dancing in my 20's til early 30's but nothing worked. Had great shape legs and muscle tone and very lean but STILL cellulite! Maybe it has to be a specific type of exercise that needs to be done.

Well T-tapp is a workout designed for everybody whether short limbed, long limbed, etc.... with little tweaks on each exercise to make it more effective. Just take a look at the t-tapp website:www.t-tapp.com or ask at their forum there and I'm sure your get responses.

Theresa

free skin care · Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:33 am

P.S. Miranda, for the cold water bath, you just have to be able to put the top half of your thighs and bottom half of your stomach in cold water. I don't think I could do it if I had to do a full-body cold water bath Smile

In case it helps, I also have low blood pressure--an average of 90/60, but it occasionally dips to 80/50 (in part a genetic gift from my mom)--and I find it tolerable. But certainly some people will not like it at all! Hope this helps you decide what things you want to try Smile

free skin care · Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:30 pm

Hi! I'm glad more people are sharing their experiences with CM products!
Regarding broken veins, is it possible that No Lipo Lipo actually makes spider veins worse?
I am delighted both with Facercise and No Lipo Lipo, but this is something that I am worried about.

free skin care · Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:53 pm

i've found that pressing the points along the different energy meridans ( acupressure) in the legs (focusing on the meridians and certain important points on the thighs)releases stagnant energy in the internal organs connected with the meridians..and in the thighs themsleves...so i do this along with any dry brusing or other kinds of massage i do on my thighs (i've never really had a problem with cellulite..so haven't purchase the nll system..but if i did i would!)

free skin care · Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:37 am

Pollyanna, yeah it's my raw diet, i believe, but also understanding certain TCM principles (for example. i've read that cellulite is caused by plegm... according to TCM ...which is different than fat... and independent of our weight or body size)

i am also intolerant to fruit (according to the Carroll intolerance system) and can developement cellulite as well as putting on access weight if i eat it....so i very very rarely do...but if i do i go to my TCM practitioner for herbs to balance my internal system (clearing plegm, etc)

Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:53 am

ok, I've been doing the NLL for just over 3 weeks now.

I have to say, my legs are looking amazing! And, considering that they were always the bane of my existence when I was younger, got loose after losing weight when older, that's not nothin'!

I'm not seeing my stomach measurments budge even a bit, but hoping that area kicks in soon!

I am following Aprile's advice to 'amp' up the strokes to 60 each section, let's see if that does it.

free skin care · Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:47 pm

I met Carole while living in LA. She looks fantastic and is her own best advertisement.

I just received her No Lipo Lipo package, the horsehair mitt and the Ultimate facercise dvd and mitts.

I am going to try it out. If it works, it is a small investment.

free skin care · Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:10 am

dimpil1 wrote:

Toby wrote:

dimpil1 wrote:

Just got the No Lipo Lipo and started. I would rather find someone in my area NC to get 2 treatments from to make sure we are doing it right (my daughter and I watched DVD so she can do on me). I must say 60 strokes will take your breath away. I also purchased some oils to help as the 1st time the drop of dab or two of Vitamine E oil just didn't work. Then I noticed in her testimonials section on the DVD the ladies were bathed in oils as the techs worked on them. I find it hard to get the belly techniques (roll pinch and knuckle) as mine is really really flabby.

I also noticed that it's hard to glide up. Going down with pressure is easy but the glide up is awkward. I will be starting my T-Tapp again with this, had to stop due to surgery, down for 2 weeks. So I think both should render some results.

Any tips, help or other videos on this would be great.

Thanks!

Welcome Dimpill to EDS forum wave

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I am a NC gal too but I don't know of a salon that offers No Lipo. I think if you get going after a few times it will seem much easier. It might be good if you don't try to tackle the 60 stokes in the beginning...ease into it! Great program and nice to have this information for home treatments!
Toby Wink

Thanks Toby! Do you do it as well? I spoke to the office (Carole Maggio) and they recommended 60 if I wanted to see the salon results that's why I have my daughter watching it as well. I do the 60 my belly as it's still sore due to laposcopic surgery so I'm not putting a lot of pressure.

I LOVE the skin brushing better than T-Tapps brushing, same techniques (T-Tapp does a bit more areas), longer stroking and better brush (mit).

Hi Dimpill,
I am a long-time NLL user and I can attest that 60 is by and far and wide much more effective than 30 strokes. That was even true for just the dry brushing alone. Btw, I use the horsehair mitt....for me, it really amps things up. I didn't have a lot of cellulite persay, but my skin was getting saggy around the knees (knee socks like Carole says), but not anymore!!! After amping up my reps to 60, there was a marked difference and the skin is now nice and tight and taut. Dry brushing itself can also tone and tighten the muscles beneath the skin. Sounds crazy, but it does.. I don't even really lift weights and just walk in the morning for exercise and yet my body looks toned and lifted. So while I agree with Pam, if its too much for you at first, go slow ... maybe at least do 60 of the dry brushing and just 30 of the knuckle treatment and then build up. One tip that works especially for the dry brushing is to place one hand on top of the working hand to assist (for the legs and stomach areas.) This helps you not tire as quickly. Also, I use an oil that helps glide easier for the knuckle treatment. But, you shouldn't be too "oiled up" because you want to have some friction; that won't happen if you apply too much of any oil. The rule of thumb here is use enough to allow for the knuckles to glide, but not too much where you don't feel anything. Carole also recommends "splitting" the routine ~ doing the dry brushing in the morning and the knuck massage treatment in the evening. To be honest, I don't always do the knuckle treatment, but I don't really need to right now. But, the one thing I never skip is the dry brushing; I do it every day without fail. In fact, it's invigorating and wakes me up in the morning!! Again, my cellulite was kind of minimal, but it was still there! I mostly had it on the front of my thighs, not the back. The main thing I needed to do was lift my skin and tone and tighten things up... No Lipo Lipo really really works, but it can take some time if you aren't doing the full 60 strokes of both. So once you feel stronger, you should definitely amp things up. You'll be glad you did. I am going to try and post the KTLA No Lipo video for you. All the best, Aprile Very Happy

free skin care · Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:38 pm

I agree, I still do this program almost every other day as some mornings are just manic. However I still love the effects and they seem to get better and better. Also my bingo wings (the flabby part on my arms) really has diminished greatly from both this and doing it. I've found it does really work the arms and hands in twisting and doing the massage on the calfs etc big time. I'm happy because it has slimmed them down without making them muscley.

free skin care · Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:28 am

Hi Toby,

Well I have it down to a science by now. At 60 strokes dry brushing in the AM takes me about 7-8 minutes and I touch every single area including the tops of my hands. The NLL in the PM maybe 9 mins. at most and that's if I'm really working a specific area. I just reintroduced the tummy area as the skin there was getting a little saggy, not flabby. Lol! This routine tightens everything up nicely. My tummy and the rest of my body looks like I'm in my 30's not my 50's. Gotta love it! Laughing

Aprile

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