Best MACHINE(S) for improving skin appearance and firmness?
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free skin care · Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:51 pm

Hi Justine - Hands down I use the Tua Viso for mucsle tightening and sagging - have seen a true
lift of my face after 3 months; for skin tone,
clarity, and a little skin tightening, I use the AAlightstim. Have been using that for 18 months. Spent much time reading these threads and resesarching and those two work the best for me! Am in my late 50's so I need all the help I can get! - DiPhx

free skin care · Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:25 pm

I second the AALS

free skin care · Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:13 pm

AALS - Hands down this has done the most for my skin overall. No makeup required, all prior sun damage gone, skin much firmer, smoother + a texture like a baby's. The new collagen is very apparent. Have used it just about 2 years.

Vaculifter - Nothing works better for tightening the neck that I have tried. It also contributes to a prettier, healthier, firmer skin due to the increased circulation from the massage.

Derma Wand - This is a nice little gadget for oxygenating the skin, increasing circulation, getting a little eye lift + zapping the occassional zit. (Come to think of it, I haven't had a zit in more than a year.. Very Happy

)

Tua Viso - I'm still on the fence with this one.. I have a very hard time getting the contractions the same on both sides of my face, and feel that if they are wrong, it will cause more harm than good.. At this point I am just using it in a uplifting massage fashion for the 'microcurrent' benefit.

So far that's what has worked for me. I'm trying the Omnilux LED right now, and I'm anxious to see what results it will give in 8 weeks.. (It's a PITA though, as it takes a good 3 hours to treat the whole face + jaw.. Shock

)

free skin care · Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:30 pm

I love my AALS! Tonight, a girlfriend described my skin as "plumped up." I've had a hard time describing what exactly its done for me...all I know is my skin looks damn good. "plumped up" was a good description.

free skin care · Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:21 pm

AALS - Takes 60 minutes for a full 3 minute treatment to face and neck.. 90 if I add in the chest and hands

Vaculifter - 10 minutes for a good face + neck massage.

Derma Wand - 15 minutes for a good going over with eye lift.

Tua Viso - 30 minutes for just massage. It took me about 1 hour to do the actual exercises, but I had a hard time with placement.

free skin care · Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:52 pm

My favorite Stop(tripollar device)

Tua Viso(daily in the morning w/dvd)

LED lights

blender for my green smoothies

free skin care · Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:47 pm

To answer many of the questions which recently surfaced, here goes:

I use the Tua Viso to reduce sag (works great) and at the same time it improves some wrinkles as some sag can cause wrinkles; the only exercise I use witht TV is the Ageless cheek lifting exercise and I do the "behind the ear" exercise manually cause I can't find the right placement of the probes on that one.

Spend 40 minuntes on TV 3 times a week
Spend about 45 minutes on AAlightstim about 2 X week

I use the copper peptides before the LED but let it absorb for some time first. Am off of copper peptides now for 2-3 weeks to give the skin a rest. We'll see what happens when we start up again. In talking with the folks at Skin Biology, they said many people get better effects from copper peptides from using them every other day. Will try that when I start up again. Unfortunately at this point, don't have too much time left to do anything else but it's so worth it!

free skin care · Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:59 am

I've used the Prolight Platinum, Clarisonic, Nutritone, and the Prolight Galvanic/Ultrasound. In terms of firmness, the Nutritone has probably helped better than any, but not as much as I would like. My favorite, though, is the galvanic. It does a wonderful job of deep cleaning my pores and makes my face look so smooth and fresh. I hated the clarisonic, BTW.

free skin care · Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:03 pm

Hi minnymouse - Regarding the use of the TV and the facemaster, I only use the TV; however, after doing much reading, have heard the TV works great for sagging and somewhat lifting the brow while the facemaster works better for small lines and wrinkles. If you really want more info, there are separate threads for the TV and the facemaster and I encourage you to read them both. Again, it depends on what you want to do. I am in my late 50's so want the sag taken care of along with the collagen stimulation from the AAlightstim. There is a wealth of information on these gadgets.
I bught my TV from NCN and it had a rechargeable battery. I believe shy may give a discount to EDS forum users. Both gadgets are worth every penny I spent. DiPhx
doing much reading

free skin care · Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:55 pm

I think I would put my money in the piggy bank for the time being, waiting for the home devices to get better.

One of the most respected dermatologists in the US, Professor Leslie Baumann, told that the devices on the market today are too weak, but that good ones are coming in a couple of years.

I will repost a couple of quotes from Dr Baumann that I posted on another thread.

This is from her blog (March 20th 2009):

Quote:

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It seemed to me that the newest talk was on at home light devices. The ones currently on the market are not very strong, but thee is interest in developing stronger ones. None are worth the money yet - except - maybe the ones for acne.

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Many have asked me about the DermaWand. The DermaWand emits a stream of low level micro-current impulses up to 168,000 cycles peer second. The claim is that it massages and rejuvenates skin. It is safe, but I have never seen convincing data that it is effective. Some wound healing research implies that electrical current may stimulate skin cells to make collagen, but we do not know what kind of current and how much is best, so I would not waste money on this type of device at this time. Wait for the technology to get better.

http://skintypesolutions.com/blogs/usa/ (Scroll down)

And this is from Dr Baumann's Q & A about skin care on miamiherald.com (02/01/09):

Quote:

Q: What are your thoughts on products like BabyQuasar Red that use infrared light to improve the condition of the skin? I value your advice and opinions on skin care/skin care products and would love to know if these types of at-home-spa products are worth the money.

A: Not yet, but good ones are coming in 2-3 years.

http://www.miamiherald.com/qna/forum/cosmetic_dermatology/index-p5.html
(Scroll down)

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