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Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:01 pm |
I think its sad and quite disgusting that "she's back" just in time for holiday gift giving season, when she's left her faithful followers to flounder for months on end on her forum... And that doesn't even count the many members who were concerned for her well being, and just wanted to know she was okay.
phew, that was a mouthful...just calling it as I see it.
Shame on you LouLou ![Shame on you](images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif) |
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Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:47 pm |
I'm really glad Loulou is back and okay--I know so many people were worried. I am relieved to hear that nothing terrible befell her.
Yet at the same, I have mixed feelings about this situation. I really felt that her absence and her treatment of people (selling them product, but not delivering it and not responding to emails) was not acceptable. Also, I can't believe that during the time we were all so worried about her, she was working on a new product to sell, rather than dealing with all the people she left hanging and caused problems for; that's really *not* cool. |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:43 am |
I can't agree there I am happy to cut some slack but absolute silence since march is not on. Then suddenly reappearing to sell a product.
I personally thought she had more integrity than that. She has not done her name much good really. There are a lot of potential customers that will be put off buying the new product one because there is no proper support system and also because most people haven't even got the previous nor has she responded to them or paypal.
I think it is very amaturish |
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Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:09 pm |
To be honest, i cant see why people are defending Lou Lou really.
In my mind there is no excuse for not posting one message in months and months.
After all, she is running a business here.... and has no doubt made money from it which is why she is launching a new product.
Everybody in life has problems, illnesses and family problems and if she didnt have the time for the forum thats fine.....but not being able to post one message in months is impossible to believe......it takes seconds. If she didnt want to post a message, why didnt a moderator?(wasnt one a 'close' friend?)
The fact she didnt post a message is very bad customer relations.....yet taking money and not delivering products was illegal the last i heard.
Overall, it is Lou Lou's character that has been discredited here. Integrity is very important in business - why should we believe that cosmetic surgery hasnt helped her looks enormously.....and that facial exercise played a supporting role - we only have her word after all.
To come back and finally put a message on the site plugging a new money making product shows a lack of empathy with people who required her advice.
This may seem quite a strong post, yet i cant see how anything could have stopped her or a friend writing a message months ago...... unless shes been in jail : )) |
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Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:12 am |
The forum is turning hostile already, from those who seem to defend Lou no matter what, and appear to have more of an insight into her day-to-day life ( ).
They're missing the point. The defenders assume customers want a long sob story or personal details about Lou as an explanation. They don't. No customer wants excuses, or convoluted stories about tragedies/illness..ignoring customers for months is bad business and destroys its reputation.
All the customer needs is a polite reply and to know that they're getting what they paid for.
Even more of a shocker, there's anonymous posts saying those who paid via Paypal could be lying about not getting their book/dvd/download!
I think Lou's "comeback" post, which more or less says, "Did you miss me? I have something new to sell you" is incredibly crass and not thinking of the bigger picture. It could almost be construed as sarcasm by those who had their fingers burned.
And (the fanclub loved this opinion) her new site looks quite dodgy. The whole hyperbole and "fill in your details for a report" style makes me run a mile. http://www.theagelessmethod.com/optin.html
I've no agenda, and thought Lou always came across well, appearing supportive, positive and friendly, but unfortunately you have to look at the facts. I get the feeling the supporters assume everyone who dares log in with something negative to say is trying to destroy her.
Not so. I bought the DVD and book when they were hot off the presses, and read and contributed to her forum avidly most of this year.
I've lost faith. Just my opinion of course, and at least I can express it here without getting nasty replies! |
_________________ Louise,45,UK.Sunscreen Face/Body L/Term!OCM(Castor/Carrier Oil,Vaculift),MUAC 12.5%,18% TCA,Working Up To SkinObsession 25% TCA/Jessner's.Ageless,Dr Roller,Retin-A 0.05% & 0.1%,AAging Lightstim,CP Serum,Dermawand,Vaculift Face 2 Body 2,Pretika Sonic Brush.Microfibre Cloth.Tua Viso(Broken ),Palovia (Started 7 April 2011!). |
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Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:13 am |
Ultimately there is no excuse.
If she had vanished for months, then reappeared and said she'd had personal problems...... i think most people would have had sympathy.
The problem is that despite any problems, she has found time to devise a new program to sell. So regardless of any personal problems, she has had time to focus on other things.....yet had no time to post a message taking seconds.
Nobody can defend that in all honesty. |
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Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:49 pm |
In my humble opinion, (which I am fully entitled to), my opinion is that LouLou is pumped full of fillers (in this new video), and looks like crap compared to the videos we have from a year or so ago.
http://www.theagelessmethod.com/TruthAboutAgeingVideo.html
Granted, she looks like she put on a few pounds, but don't we all wish we could put on the "lbs" exactly where we want them.. i.e.: NL folds, under eye hollows and cheeks..? (If I had my druthers I'd reserve a few pounds for my 'boy hips' if it were me...)
Puhleeeze! What a crock of crap, (disguised as the results of facial exercise.. ) I am so sick of these so called skin care guru's, who are obviously taking such advantage of the *innocents* who fall for it all.
Feel free to delete my post for calling a spade a spade...
Thanks, I feel better now... ![wave](images/smiles/039.gif) |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:54 am |
I actually was referring to the videos/pictures that were "pre" nose surgery... (Under eye hollows, and deep NL folds are apparent.) (I don't think I can share the link publicly though, because it may have been the one that came with the purchase of her program..)
To my eyes, the video you shared shows her post (original) filler face.
What I saw on her "newest" teaser video clearly shows additional fillers (of some sort), and sorry, but I think it is overboard, and not becoming at all...)
Believe me when I tell you that I have no desire to bash LouLou or anybody else who is selling a product. BUT, I have a huge problem with those same *sellers*, who are clearly enhancing their appearance with *other* things, and then trying to pass the results off as the result of facial exercise alone.
C'mon now folks? Can any of you out there honestly say that any "one" thing you do (or have done) is enough to completely undue a life time of damage on it's own... If that's the case, please point me directly to it, and then I can unload my unnecessary *arsenal*...
I do have a question for our few members who absolutely love and swear by the benefit of facial exercise. Can any one of you (that have good results) tell me that;
1. It is the "only thing/routine you practice"?
2. You own no other skin care gadgets?
3. You now have cheeks when in your heyday you did not?
4. You have managed to change the shape of your face + bone structure?
5. You have huge duck lips that actually impair your speech?
6. You look better at 60 than you did at 40?
7. Your eyebrows are an inch higher now than they were 10 years ago?
8. Not only did facial exercise magically transform your entire face shape, but it has also transformed your skin to dewy youthfulness?
Anyhoo, you get the idea of what I've derived from what "all" exercise guru's would have us believe.
And with that I'm going to spend a few hours with my little "arsenal" of gadgets this evening, so I can be somewhat dewy + fresh when I'm cooking Thanksgiving dinner for 17 on Thursday.
Here's one guarantee I can give y'all though... All the gadgets in the world won't keep me from looking like what the cat dragged in on Friday... ![](images/smiles/119.gif) |
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:40 pm |
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I think it quite possible that LouLou has achieved her quite flawless face from excercise and massage.
I also think it in very poor taste to criticise her mannerisms, I'm sure we could all rip each other to pieces if we chose to be critical rather than kind.
LouLou has shared something terrific, for a very low price, and given a lot of help and feedback in a very charming way for quite a while.
How about focusing on what she has contributed, rather than the less than ideal aspects.
Dont we all have less than ideal aspects?!
Thanks to LouLou for a great programme that is do - able and enjoyable.
BTW, some days, I look a bit puffy. Especially if I have been crying or upset or had a glass too much wine. C'est la vie, surely?! |
When folks choose to SELL their product, that puts them in a different category then the rest of us here.
They also leave themselves open to both raves as well as ridicule, as the users of said product see fit to share.
Based on what you have wrote, I can only assume you haven't visited the "ageless" forum she abandoned more than 8 months ago. And then has the audacity to post about her brand new product for sale just in time for the holiday's.. (If you have been to her forum, and don't think there's anything wrong with it, then that's your opinion which you are fully entitled to.)
Sorry, but I think it's tacky. And I also think shame on LL for abandoning the members that were begging for her help for months on end. It was also very disrespectful of her to have so many of them needlessly worried about her safety and well being. It takes only seconds to post a few sentences on *her* forum, which would have given the folks there reassurance at least that she was okay.
Look at the bright side though, after reading how upset and disgusted the majority are with her now, she has had ample time to come up with a good reason for her absence.
Non-puffy Kassy over and out ... ![Smile](images/smiles/smile.gif) |
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