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Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:04 am  |
Hi....i am convinced that facial exercises work - sometimes much too well.
I have also gone through gaunt stages. The good news is that by doing nothing, and i mean nothing.......things tend to resolve. Eat plenty and drink well to support this process.
I now do facial exercise once per week....with the aim to maintain the strength of the muscles in my face and hopefully prevent sagging. |
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Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:51 am |
Hi Theresa,
I prefaced my comment by saying that I am tossing the idea out because not every one's skin is the same. So if you have thin, aging or delicate skin to begin with, pulling, tugging or stretching will NOT be good for the skin. Just like when you sleep on one side of your face, your face will take on an asymmetrical look. The reason for this is because the skin on that side on the face becomes swollen and hence the skin has been stretched out. Not to say that it can't be corrected by back sleeping, but it most definitely has been stretched. Others with medium to thick skin may be able to tolerate more the aggressive stretching, pulling and tugging. But, the area beneath the eyes is one area that should never be over manipulated because the skin there is very thin with little fat and overstretching would cause sag and more wrinkling. Not to say that you cannot touch the area all, but it should not be overly aggressive or rough. In fact, Carole recommends that while using the beauty face mitt or bamboo glove, you always hold your face in the long O position to avoid stretching the skin. Just like she recommends you hold your face in that position while you perform certain exercises. The reason for everything in her routine is always to protect the skin from overstretching. Many people have been able to create some pretty impressive results using her program, while others may feel it’s not aggressive enough. It still works. Her bamboo & beauty face mitt will exfoliate the skin and massage it, but also do not stretch the skin. But, to your point about the No Lipo Lipo regimen: The body skin is most definitely different from the facial skin because it is always thicker. The body skin can take much more aggressive manipulation and massage than the facial skin. But even still, during the deep knuckle massage and even during the dry brushing portion of the routine, you are not pulling or stretching the skin away from the body. As you know, when you are finished with your NLL routine, your skin actually looks better. Hope that clarifies what I meant. Aprile |
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Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:48 am |
Hi dickymoe,
Absolutely!  In fact, in one of CM's recent newsletters, there was an article about that very thing. Very interesting read...I am posting the link here for you to view. The article appears on the left hand side of the page ~ check it out. Carole always has a lot of interesting facts/articles in her newsletters!! HTH, Aprilehttp://www.facercise.com/newsletter.shtml |
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Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:37 am |
This has been a great thread.
To be honest, there is no evidence at all whatsoever that facial excercises do absolutely anything to the skin (or bone).
They could obviously do something for muscles and thus change face structure a bit.
The papers quoted as research really deal with different type of muscles, with different type of fiber distribution, with a lot different weight, tension, etc, etc. So it's really comparing apples to oranges. In resistance excercises where bone grows, the pull used is much bigger than you use on your skin, and when the tendon is stressed it reacts.
In body building, you can stretch and put a lot of stress without really affecting your skin because the muscles are not attached to the skin. So you can pull the muscle and your skin will "slide" and not get really stretched. However, in your face, the muscles are "attached" to the skin so you can't push the muscles as much without pulling the skin.
Yes, I know that some people have had good experiences but is it really due only do the excercises or is it due to their skin care routine? I don't know. I tend to be skeptical in general so unless I see real measurements I just... remain skeptical.
I'm very scared of dynamic wrinkles but I'm not sure that just a bit of excercise every now and then could hurt. I also think that some things could be useful... if with excercises I could strengthen my resting tone for certain muscles (let's say around the mouth area) then maybe I could have a slightly upward mouth resting expression.... that would be nice.
Just my humble opinion. |
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Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:14 am |
Hi Josee,
I swear by frownies, they work because the skin attaches to the muscle on the face.
I contacted the company that makes frownies to inquire why they didn't have frownies for the neck and I was told because the skin on the neck doesn't attach to the muscle, so they wouldn't work. |
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Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:37 pm |
Hi Josee,
I think the discussion is interesting as well. But, your comment about how the paraylzed side of a Bell's Palsy patients face doesn't appear as wrinkled, put me in mind of a conversation I once had with someone who had Bells. The patient, who was using Facercise as part of his rehabilitation, told me that he was so excited when he noticed crinkles appear at the corners of his eyes again, because that meant he could squint! So you see, it's really all about perspective. Also, a face that has no dynamic wrinkles at all is really just a blank canvas. If you look closely, even children have dynamic wrinkles; it's what gives character to their faces. I'd much rather have a well toned face than sagging cheeks and jawline. Honestly, facial exercises don't cause wrinkles. I actually think that by building facial muscles you can not only make up for lost volume, but disguise wrinkles because they flaten out due to increased lift and volume. I can't say whether facial exercises will work for HIV patients because facial wasting is a whole other ballgame. I believe they have meds and other methods for those patients because the volume loss is so massive is some... very sad. Best, Aprile |
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