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Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:27 pm  |
| Skincare wrote: |
There is this women I see daily on my way to work who show a lot of age below her lower lip. I've read in New Beauty magazine that generally caucasian women tend to show age in the jowl area.
How do you prevent that area to show so much aging. The only think I can think of is using vitamin C serum and sunscreen, but is there anything else we can do? That area usually get congested on my and I do a lot of exfoliation in that area. It's frustrating that area is always targeted and when sweating from working out, it all sit in that area. I know that this is not good. |
Hi Skincare I don't know if you're open to face exercises, but I do know they can help with the sagging that shows around the chin. There are some exercises you can find for free online. Eva Fraser has one under the diagram on this page.
Tom Hagerty too has a short program that also has a chin workout. I'd recommend doing Tom's entire workout though. I don't believe in spot training and since his entire program is available for free... |
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:35 pm |
| SusieQ wrote: |
Facial exercises will only stretch the face out more! Do you really want that?
Its a losing battle. There is no facial cream, lotion or serum that will LIFT skin up either. |
With all due respect SusieQ, that's not true at all. Many people who do face exercises do not have stretched out faces. I most certainly don't and I've done them for over 20 years. I don't know if you can dismiss creams/serums either because there are many people on SkinBio who swear by them. Some combine both face exercises and creams and show great results.
Examples of beautiful chin/jawlines in people that do face exercises can be seen in the photos at these links:
And if you're thinking that it gets worse over time and that the time differences between before/after in those^^ photos are too short to prove anything, here are my photos:
My chin when I was in my 20's:
My chin when I was in my 30's:
My chin now that I'm in my 40's:
Then you can look at the instructors themselves whose jawline/chins do not look stretched by any stretch of the imagination (pun intended LOL) and they too have done face exercises for long:
Judith, Tom, Deb, Carolyn, Eva, Carole, Loulou, etc
I don't know what you've tried so far, SusieQ but I have suggested the exercise shown on the clip on Eva's website to a few people and they have reported back that they not only felt the exercise working but think they see a difference. And while I am clueless when it comes to cosmetics, I hope someone who has had some success with topicals (like copper peptides) can share some encouraging info. It makes me sad that you seem to have lost all hope where chins are concerned.  |
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:52 am |
It's called GRAVITY 
It's effects are more noticeable over TIME
It can be exacerbated my certain LIFE/LIFESTYLE factors.
I don't know of anything that won't permanently turn back the clock but for surgery.
Other methods *may* turn the clock back slowly, but the clock is still ticking - so with the slower methods, you are basically stuck treading water.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
BFG - needs coffee this morning.
Peace! |
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:13 am |
| Barefootgirl wrote: |
Yes, I think it's always a great idea to keep an open mind, look at all sides, etc...and again, there will always be examples of success and failure no matter what route one takes.
All that said, I also think it's important to be realistic and perform your own due diligence, no matter route you take.
The bottom line for me is the gut check. The gut check goes something like this:
"If Product X or System Y is sooooo wonderful...why doesn't everybody do it??? Why hasn't this reached the mainstream?"
Anything that truly works (and has been proven to work well, within reason) is eventually adopted by the masses....
bfg |
The same can be said about going to the gym, walking daily, swimming daily. Putting an effort - a real effort- is beyond a lot of people. The main stream - accepted practices for the masses- - why doesn't everyone do it? Why doesn't everyone get up and exercise - why doesn't everyone do weight bearing exercises to retard bone loss.
And these things are "main stream" so - The reasons are individual as to why they are not adopted by the masses. Although the masses know they should adopt them! Because only the few people will put in the extra effort.
A few people will for awhile, but not keep it up. A few people will sabotage themselves by over doing, getting sore, injuries in exercising, and blame what they were doing. Saying ti does not will not work for them. The people who it does work for must be different.
Maybe the few are different only because they are disciplined. But then a few will keep at it. Are they the exception to the rule? Or are they the proof that the rules are known, just mostly ignored.
Look at the general public.
Most are out of shape. Most eat poor diets. Most do not exercise beyond getting into their cars and going to work. It is an effort that is painful for them.
Those of us that exercise stand out. Those of us that exercise our faces and bodies, both - stand out. We are not genetically different than those who do not.
And this is a LOT more than I usually write. So I will stop now. |
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I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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