A new gadget that has better lifting than the Tuas', etc....
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free skin care · Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:50 pm

brierrose wrote:

Me four! But wouldn't ya know it I just bought the Tua Viso!

Still interested to know about this new device though. Rolling Eyes

I might end up buying something before this mystery device anyway.... It looks like the ETA is not set, so for all we know it could wind up being the end of the year. At least you'll have a leg up on the process.

Or should I say, a toned face, lol. Not knowing when it will arrive, I am being more disciplined with my face exercises and dermarolling, that's the good news.

Still, I would so love to know what's coming down the pike! Smile

free skin care · Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:21 am

Kgeaux, I don't think you'll be disappointed. It really is a good tool, but for some reason I just don't see a lot of support for it in the US. It's a bummer that NCN is no longer carrying it, as the websites for the distributor are pretty barebones and don't feel like a site that uses what they sell, if you know what I mean. This forum is the best place I've found for finding other Tua users.

free skin care · Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:00 pm

I think that may fall into the category of "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". I'm also leery of gadgets that attempt to be a jack-of-all-trades thing. It may do all those things - but how well?

There aren't many LED lights pictured, so it would seem to take a long time to use. And unless the microcurrent is a separate snap-on piece, I don't see the 2 poles for the postive / negative necessary for that to work.

Part of what made me choose the Tua was that it was built in Italy. I went with my experience with steam cleaners. I got an inexpensive one from China that was dead junk after a year, vs the one I got that was made in Italy that is built like a tank, performs better and so far, has lived twice as long as the other one (and still has something like 6 more years on the warranty).

free skin care · Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:58 pm

sister sweets wrote:

Hello Luminosity - Are you saying the professional microcurrent treatments may be aging to the skin in the final analysis.
I am going to assume they have stronger currents - although I don't know. I have an old style nuFace which I use faithfully - along with AALS and Ageless Secret Gold.

Luminosity wrote:

Well, Nanci's soon to be released product sounds wonderful... but again... I have to come back to "is stronger better?"

From everything I am reading on microcurrent, you do not want it to be too strong otherwise it has the reverse effect and actually ages the skin.

Also, microcurrent to be truly effective, needs more than just strength, has to have wave form technology... I am no expert, but this is what I keep reading.

So much to keep track of... I am definitely intrigued with what is coming from NCN!

Sorry Sister... didn't see your question until just now!

As far as professional microcurrents - please see the quote below as it explains the difference between a low cost home unit and a professional unit. The image I get is of a bull in a China shop. Home units often tend to be raw power, with no real regulation of output, whereas a professional unit "may automatically change its power output combination (output combination = microamperage + hertz + waveshape) over 500 times." The Ezzi-Lift is unique in that apparently, it has a bio-feeback feature. I think that is the one exception I've seen in regards to home units.

Also, to address the ATP depletion issue, I thought the following helped me better understand the issues: "The 1982 Cheng study proves that ATP (adenosine tri phosphate) levels were increased by 500% on tissue that was treated utilizing less than 500 Ua (microamperes). The study also indicated that ATP levels plummeted and depleted when treated with over 500 Ua. The idea that ATP can be stock piled or stored is the reason why microcurrent treatment results are cumulative and results become better as a series of treatments progresses."

http://www.bio-therapeutic.com/about_microcurrent.htm

"Not all equipment is created the same"

"I am often asked the difference between a modality that can be purchased on television for $99 and a $5000 device that is sold exclusively to the professional. The old adage “you get what you pay for” definitely applies here. The way that electrical current affects the tissue, and the results that are achieved are completely dependent on the sophistication of the engineering that takes place between the power source and the output accessory. Progressive manufactures of microcurrent devices offer completely computerized, automated devices. Most systems virtually walk the operator through each phase of the treatment step by step, and even visually indicate on the lcd screen what accessory and product to use during each phase of the treatment.

During the average five step 45 minute facial, a pre-programmed device may automatically change its power output combination (output combination = microamperage+hertz+waveshape) over 500 times. This patented technology is called microcurrent sequencing. The output combination controls the depth, purpose, and effect that the electrical current will have on the tissue being treated. Low levels of output combinations are usually associated with deep tissue muscle re-education work, whereas high levels of output combinations are usually associated with circulatory benefits and iontophoresis.

Leading microcurrent manufacturers equip their devices with diagnostic monitoring and metering systems that confirm via LCD screen the exact percentage of conductivity that is flowing from probe to probe through the tissue, as well as the level of resistance that may be present (rather than simple bleeping lights). This information is processed through an internal computer and the output combination has the potential to adjust itself 1024 times per second if necessary to accommodate the lack of conductivity or over abundance of resistance. This information also allows the esthetician to make appropriate adjustments to the treatment protocol.

Responsible manufacturers require every device purchaser to attend an education and certification class where the esthetician learns, in depth, the operation and theory of the equipment as well as appropriate esthetic applications."

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 9:23 am

Latest update from Nanci:

UPDATE: Non-Surgical Face Lift Microcurrent Machine

The multi-functional device that I mentioned to you in my February newsletter is a no-go. It just didn't have the wow factor I'm insisting on, so I started all over again from scratch. This is a HUGE project and I really shouldn't have mentioned it to you when I did, only because it's taking so long. I'm sorry to keep you waiting, but these things take time and I won't rush it. I promise you that it will be worth the wait, and I also promise you that it will lift your face like no other device that's available for home use.

It's not a handheld unit and it's also not multi-functional (no ultrasound, no LEDs). AND it has an attachment for your body as well.

We are in the process of designing our instructional DVD and manual.

I'm hoping to have it available for you by the end of the summer. Thank you so much for your patience.

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 9:32 am

This is just one example of why I love purchasing from NCN. Nanci is always upfront and honest about her products.

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 10:03 am

DarkMoon wrote:

Luminosity wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Thanks for posting the update Luminosity!

I appreciate her honesty, I would venture a guess she gets caught up in the excitement of a possible new product just like we do here! Very Happy

I know, lol. But geez... what in world could it be based on her description? I'm kind of guessing something like SmoothSculpt, the latest iteration on vacuum therapy (since Nanci mention there is an attachment for the body). Something like a Wellbox perhaps???

It does sound like something along those lines, maybe the manufacturer was not very clear in their description initially? It does not sound at all like what she first divulged!

My guess is that she completely switched gears... I think the combination of ultrasound, LED, and microcurrent was way too much for one gadget. Would each function be as powerful as the stand-alone version?

So I'm thinking she went another direction entirely... Shelley Hancock (an esthetician I check with and follow) really loves the SmoothSculpt and says it blows microcurrent out of the water... at least the professional model which is all they make currently (that I'm aware of). I have to wonder if Nanci decided something along those lines made more sense to market and have built?

http://www.shelleyhancock.com/smoothsculpt.html

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 10:31 am

smoothsculpt sounds a lot like a vaculifter! I bought it few months ago but still need to start using it on a regular basis...

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 10:38 am

DarkMoon wrote:

daler wrote:

smoothsculpt sounds a lot like a vaculifter! I bought it few months ago but still need to start using it on a regular basis...

I was thinking that daler, but since I don't own one I decided to keep my big mouth shut! Very Happy

Thanks for noting that since you do own the vaculifter!

yes, I bought it thru nanci, the face one and it's suction i sooo powerful; I ll post review on VL it's own thread when I get around to start using it regularly! And now after reading info on smoothsculpt, I must!

free skin care · Tue May 01, 2012 11:01 am

I agree... I thought SmoothSculpt was very similar to the Vaculift as well... however, there is a video of it that shows how it is slightly different with pulsing and rather strong suction.

However, for us laypersons, the Vaculift is as close as we can affordably get (there is the Wellbox which is similar but awfully expensive). I'll stick to the Vaculift - which I'll probably get someday soon since Nanci's item is down the road.

Here's a video link of the SmoothSculpt on the face (it's ten minutes long but you can skip ahead and get a feel for how it works)...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkStaujhnBQ

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