Shop with us!!! We sell the most advanced skin care anti-aging cosmetics on the market: cellex-c, phytomer, sothys, dermalogica, md formulations, decleor, valmont, kinerase, yonka, jane iredale, thalgo, yon-ka, ahava, bioelements, jan marini, peter thomas roth, murad, ddf, orlane, glominerals, StriVectin SD.
 
 back to skin care discussion board front page with forums indexEDS Skin Care Forums Search the ForumSearch Most popular all-time Forum TopicsHot! Library
 Guidelines  FAQ  Register
Free gifts for Forum MembersForum Gifts Free Gifts offers at Essential Day SpaFree Gifts Offers  Log in



Cosmedix Opti Crystal Liquid Crystal Eye Serum (7 g / 0.25 oz) Swiss Line Cell Shock White Brightening Diamond Serum (2 x 20 ml) Sundari Gotu Kola and Boswellia Eye Serum (15 ml / 0.5 floz)
DIY Peptide Question
EDS Skin Care Forums Forum Index » Skincare Tools & Do-It-Yourself Skincare
Reply to topic
Author Message
daler
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 18 Sep 2010
Posts: 1511
Sun May 13, 2012 2:47 pm      Reply with quote
Matrixyl 3000 has no copper in it... skin actives made some special combination but if you get it from lotiocrafters there is no copper in matrixyl 3000
daler
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 18 Sep 2010
Posts: 1511
Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 pm      Reply with quote
foxe wrote:
DarkMoon wrote:

For a cream I got this from SA:

Each tube (2 mL) is enough for about 4 fl oz of cream or gel at approximately 0.1% concentration. Use in your favorite cream or add to our Canvas Base Cream, European Cream, or our Sea Kelp Ultramarine.

Note: Too much copper (even as Copper Peptide) is not good for your skin, this is why the recommended concentration is 0.1%.

http://www.skinactives.com/Copper-Tetrapeptide-Matrixyl-3000.html


I wonder why Hannah from Skin Actives offers the advice of 'too much copper is not good for your skin'. What is her area of expertise in copper peptides to make that statement? I have not found that to be true at all.


Even Dr. Pikart advises not to use to much copper , too much of it breaks up too much collagen to be promptly replaced... as far as I know Cu break ups collagen so new collagen can be formed and that is it's mode of action....
DragoN
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 19 Jul 2010
Posts: 499
Mon May 14, 2012 8:56 pm      Reply with quote
Quote:
Even Dr. Pikart advises not to use to much copper , too much of it breaks up too much collagen to be promptly replaced... as far as I know Cu break ups collagen so new collagen can be formed and that is it's mode of action....

Along those lines. The CP's are not CuGHK , but a mix of a CU carrier and CuCl2. [ I have some here ]It's effective and very affordable.

"Too much" and it's cytotoxic. From the direction of his line of products, it appears he went off the beaten path based on the findings in his original research. Similar findings are available in others research as well.

Earlier I had read his growl about the FDA and had not liked the tone. However, he was correct. The FDA hashed his protocol and made it next to certain it would fail. Typical.

Sensitivities to Cu will play a major role in how a person reacts to his serums. I managed to give myself the "uglies" and then stopped, skin "snapped back" to better than pre uglies.

_________________
If you make, first do no harm, your Law, you will never strike the first blow and will be known as a man of peace who can fight like ten tigers, a Human in the act of Being. There is no greater rank than this. Ashida Kim on War.~Cellese~AnteAge Serum and Accelerator, DermaRoller ,MyFawnie AA2G serum, KNN G ForceUltrasound., SEA, ChrySun 25% ZnO
System
Automatic Message
Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:13 pm
If this is your first visit to the EDS Forums please take the time to register. Registration is required for you to post on the forums. Registration will also give you the ability to track messages of interest, send private messages to other users, participate in Gift Certificates draws and enjoy automatic discounts for shopping at our online store. Registration is free and takes just a few seconds to complete.

Click Here to join our community.

If you are already a registered member on the forums, please login to gain full access to the site.

Reply to topic



Cosmedix Illuminate & Lift Neck & Décolleté Treatment (60 g / 2 oz) Obagi ELASTIderm Eye  Cream (15 g / 0.5 oz) Vivier GrenzCine Face (55 ml)



Shop at Essential Day Spa

©1983-2024 Essential Day Spa & Skin Care Store |  Forum Index |  Site Index |  Product Index |  Newest TOPICS RSS feed  |  Newest POSTS RSS feed


Advanced Skin Technology |  Ageless Secret |  Ahava |  AlphaDerma |  Amazing Cosmetics |  Amino Genesis |  Anthony |  Aromatherapy Associates |  Astara |  B Kamins |  Babor |  Barielle |  Benir Beauty |  Billion Dollar Brows |  Bioelements |  Blinc |  Bremenn Clinical |  Caudalie |  Cellcosmet |  Cellex-C |  Cellular Skin Rx |  Clarisonic |  Clark's Botanicals |  Comodynes |  Coola |  Cosmedix |  DDF |  Dermalogica |  Dermasuri |  Dermatix |  DeVita |  Donell |  Dr Dennis Gross |  Dr Hauschka |  Dr Renaud |  Dremu Oil |  EmerginC |  Eminence Organics |  Fake Bake |  Furlesse |  Fusion Beauty |  Gehwol |  Glo Skin Beauty |  GlyMed Plus |  Go Smile |  Grandpa's |  Green Cream |  Hue Cosmetics |  HydroPeptide |  Hylexin |  Institut Esthederm |  IS Clinical |  Jan Marini |  Janson-Beckett |  Juara |  Juice Beauty |  Julie Hewett |  June Jacobs |  Juvena |  KaplanMD |  Karin Herzog |  Kimberly Sayer |  Lifeline |  Luzern |  M.A.D Skincare |  Mary Cohr |  Me Power |  Nailtiques |  Neurotris |  Nia24 |  NuFace |  Obagi |  Orlane |  Osea |  Osmotics |  Payot |  PCA Skin® |  Personal MicroDerm |  Peter Thomas Roth |  Pevonia |  PFB Vanish |  pH Advantage |  Phyto |  Phyto-C |  Phytomer |  Princereigns |  Priori |  Pro-Derm |  PSF Pure Skin Formulations |  RapidLash |  Raquel Welch |  RejudiCare Synergy |  Revale Skin |  Revision Skincare |  RevitaLash |  Rosebud |  Russell Organics |  Shira |  Silver Miracles |  Sjal |  Skeyndor |  Skin Biology |  Skin Source |  Skincerity / Nucerity |  Sothys |  St. Tropez |  StriVectin |  Suki |  Sundari |  Swissline |  Tend Skin |  Thalgo |  Tweezerman |  Valmont |  Vie Collection |  Vivier |  Yonka |  Yu-Be |  --Discontinued |