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Fri May 25, 2012 12:14 am  |
| erg wrote: |
| wow - has she seen some of the before and afters? |
LOL. erg, I think we have learned that some of her advice/opinions are sound, and others must be taken with a huge grain of salt!  |
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Fri May 25, 2012 4:34 am |
Boy does she need to read that book that barefoot girl recommended "The Conscise guide to Derma needling"
And I have to say that nowhere in any of the sensible guidelines does anyone say more is better they all say less is more 
I do wish she would just stop pontificating when she obviously has done no real research as Dragon says all decent research papers do not agree with her.
Oh well off my soap box
Off to poke small holes in my face to put on actives
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Fri May 25, 2012 7:22 am |
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| I don't read that as dismissing dermarollers as such I read that as dismissing misuse of rollers ('injecting' the wrong products or actives into the skin) and dismissing the exaggerated claims of some advertisers. Everyone here knows a single microneedling session is not akin to a laser treatment, results take time and patience. |
She clearly says that this is one fad one can skip because not only it is no better than a laser but also it is not better than a good skincare routine. Why would anyone cause so much discomfort to oneself if the results will be akin to a good skincare regime? Sounds like she totally dismisses it! |
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Fri May 25, 2012 7:26 am |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| Firefox7275 wrote: |
| I don't read that as dismissing dermarollers as such I read that as dismissing misuse of rollers ('injecting' the wrong products or actives into the skin) and dismissing the exaggerated claims of some advertisers. Everyone here knows a single microneedling session is not akin to a laser treatment, results take time and patience. |
She clearly says that this is one fad one can skip because not only it is no better than a laser but also it is not better than a good skincare routine. Why would anyone cause so much discomfort to oneself if the results will be akin to a good skincare regime? Sounds like she totally dismisses it! |
that is how I read it as well. |
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Sat May 26, 2012 12:35 pm |
Bethany,
Would you mind letting us know which Environ products you plan to use and how you plan to use them in your rolling protocol?
FF,
I think cosmetic needling is intended for the average person and shouldn't be discouraged by so called professionals like Paula B...
Medical needling? another issue entirely.
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Sun May 27, 2012 6:58 am |
While I like using Paula for cosmetic reviews, I don't always agree with her. I use some of her products and don't like others.
It seems she is addressing "product penetration" with regard to the dermarollers. There is too much anectdotal evidence to discount the dermaroller. I guess she doesn't want to advocate it and have novices rolling their faces because "Paula said so". |
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:40 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| Firefox7275, yes, I see your point. She writes this article for a normal woman, not a skincare nerd! |
I don't necessarily agree with that. I would classify a "normal" or perhaps the word "average" person might be better, as someone who purchases skincare from a store and takes the advice of the sales assistant - and doesn't necessarily bother to read any articles or do any research on skincare whatsoever. The people who read Paula are probably more inclined to read forums like this one.
I think her opinion on dermarolling is misinformed. Considering this statement for instance:
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| Would a dermal roller replace or create results similar to laser treatments or boost your products benefits by allowing ingredients to penetrate deeper? |
No-one has ever claimed that the shorter needle lengths meant for product penetration will replicate the effects of a laser. The caparison to lasers comes with the longer length needles designed for CIT - for which there is a plethora of clinical studies. She pays no regard to the difference of product penetration rollers and CIT rollers - but just lumps them into one process.
I don't believe she's done her research on this one - to label dermarolling as a "fad" and a "industry gimmick" is extremely ill advised. |
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