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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:09 pm  |
| radicallan wrote: |
please mention examples!  some of us have no idea when it comes to the complicated stuff. |
I believe Dr. J's example are his own AnteAGE products? |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:54 pm |
Presumably, her site is supported via her advertisers.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:15 pm |
| Barefootgirl wrote: |
Presumably, her site is supported via her advertisers.
BFG |
I don't know, since Cellese wasn't an advertiser at the time the FutureDerm AnteAGE review was completed. We just got so much traffic from the review, we figured out that her readers were discerning and therefore potential customers. And she has a lot of them, to be sure. Not really part of our business plan, but then you know me ... whimsical character that I am.
I've already stated widely my take on bias. It's a fact of life, get used to it. I know the biases of all the regulars here (kinda obvious) and they know mine (equally obvious).
As far as Nicky is concerned, she takes a high road and follows strict guidelines in terms of editorial reviews. I know this by firsthand experience. No monkey business, for sure. She strives for objectivity, and has built in controls to assure same. She values her reputation. Is that 100% guarantee of a perfect commerce agnostic point of view? No.
But hey, look around. This site sells products. Why do we assume Nicky is a bad girl because she wants to start a business? There are lots of ladies around here with DIY concerns. Do we assume they never let their economic interests shade their comments? of course not.
Then there are seller-reviewers who have little objective credibility, continually make major boners of fact, and the community of believers continues to give them a big pass. That's not Nicki. I use the example as contrast.
The best way to judge anyone who reviews is to look at their sources of information. Are they reliable? Can they point you to objective sources? Or do they disguise opinion as fact. If they speak science, make sure they know their science. |
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Physician - scientist - curmudgeon. Kind to animals and stem cells. Nonprofit muckraking site: www.barefacedtruth.com. Day job: www.anteage.com |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:47 pm |
I went to an electronics store looking for a cheap $200 TV for my bedroom. The salesman at the store convinced me that Brand X was better than Brand Y. Knowing that I had recourse in the event of a problem with the Brand X TV and that the risk of wasting my money was low, I bought the TV, brought it home and turned it on. It continues to work every day, the remote works and the picture and sound are beautiful every day. Every day I see it working for me.
Buying topical formulations with expensive actives doesn't work that way - there is no recourse, the risk of wasting my money is high. I have nothing to go on...but to wait and see if my skin shows any signs of improvement. Skincare sellers make all kind of wild claims, every day, all day - just turn on Brand X TV and the commercials come spilling out.
In this kind of market, reputation and data are all the consumer has to go on. When we discover that something doesn't add up, the situation is almost impossible to recover from. Just contact the many product/treatment proponents who have graced this forum in the past. We've watched them come and we've watched them go.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:20 pm |
Why would you misslead on how/why Cellese choose to advertise on Futerderm? If I read Nikki's review correctly Dr.J, she invited you to advertise, of course at a price. According to her you were invited prior to the time of her posting the reivew and had already accepted the Big Banner. She said it would be coming, which it did!
Nothing wrong with advertising, you've done tons of it here! Why confuse the facts? |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:45 pm |
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| Tiny wrote: |
Why would you misslead on how/why Cellese choose to advertise on Futerderm? If I read Nikki's review correctly Dr.J, she invited you to advertise, of course at a price. According to her you were invited prior to the time of her posting the reivew and had already accepted the Big Banner. She said it would be coming, which it did!
Nothing wrong with advertising, you've done tons of it here! Why confuse the facts? |
Why do people not involved assume they know the facts? The review was completed well before. She added the "invite" bit at the time of posting. Like me, she often writes ahead and then updates or refreshes when ready to publish. Methinks there is far too much acrimony being spread. Guess we will just have to add Nicki to the list of people who just won't get with the program. Banish them all! |
I only stated what Nikki herself stated on her own site, to muck it up with "publication" dates on a forum is laughable. This is not a doctorate, its AN AD and a review! While I understand timing of payment, ad, review all need to take place, that is alot different than "publications". |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:48 pm |
Related to the discussion that has been removed, every member has a 15 minute window to edit (or completely delete) his/her own posts before it "sticks". As mentioned before, many members take advantage of this window to correct typos, re-word/re-think posts or to not post the comment altogether so there is no need to take anyone to task over it.
That said, and without singling anyone out, can we please take the bickering off the forum or to PM if you must, as it is not welcome here.
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