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Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:12 am      Reply with quote
Ok, everyone, I haven't posted in ages but I am back! I've been doing a fun experiment. I usually have clients who are doing a series of microcurrent treatments in the spa come in twice a week for 6 or more weeks. I'm doing a power series where I'm doing twelve microcurrent treatments to myself with my professional machine, once daily! You can see the results on my YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/christinebyer

I'll try to post a before and after photo of 6 treatments here. But if it doesn't work you can see the results on my channel.
Cheers!
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Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:21 pm      Reply with quote
The link for Christine's Youtube videos didn't work for me. It should have been http://www.youtube.com/user/christinebyer/
Hope this works.
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Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:59 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks everyone. Today was day 11. I posted a quick video about the progress. My toddler walked in during taping-oh well what can you do! Here it is (it's quick)

http://youtu.be/2KGfsCzc7oA

Let's see if I get the courage to post before and afters here. Kinda scary seeing my face up close with no makeup. Yikes! Really want to take the others down, but also want people to see the progress.

Thanks for watching. Stay tuned.

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Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:05 pm      Reply with quote
Here's the last video of the series:

Http://youtu.be/N8r4au1HFCs

Sorry about the different lighting. I really dropped the ball on that one. If you really want to see the difference, watch some of my videos from a couple months ago when I was doing nothing to my skin. Compare it to today's video. One member here sent me a pm with comparison shots from the video I did on the 4th day and the 7th day. Pretty cool. Maybe I'll put those up.

Cheers,
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:23 pm      Reply with quote
I think this needs to be disclosed since people are evaluating the Before & After pictures and attributing results to microcurrent treatments (only):

Tiramisu said: Very nice! You look so fresh! Have you just been on a vacation? Wink
Do you think we can expect similar results with a home device such as Nuface?
I would gladly come to see you for a treatment if I didn't have to cross the Atlantic!


Christine replied: The NuFace is pretty good for a home use. I don't see why you couldn't get the same results with it. I did use red LED 4 times and a glycolic peel at the beginning and the end. And of course I'm using tons of potent skincare products: Nerium AD , arcona, Image, HydraFacial etc. you should see my vanity. It's insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8r4au1HFCs&feature=youtu.be

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Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:32 pm      Reply with quote
What is this supposed to mean Lacy? Christine was upfront about what she used... BUT, everyone *should* know that LED, glycolic peels and skincare products CANNOT lift the skin. Christine's cheeks are clearly fuller and higher in the after photos, her NLs are gone and her jawline is more toned as well. So it's pretty apparent that her results are clearly from her microcurrent treatments. Aprile
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:04 pm      Reply with quote
Keliu wrote:
girltwocb wrote:
Hmmmm, maybe I'll grab my mom...


I would like to see what effect microcurrent has on a mature age face.


I think that is a GREAT idea.
Christine it would be nice if you could show techniques that may be more helpful on a mature face. (like all of us over 50, 55, 60).

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Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:00 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Sis,
She said she used Skin Script 30% glycolic peel.
She mentioned that she likes their products.
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Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:03 pm      Reply with quote
RussianSunshine wrote:
girltwocb wrote:

The red LED is the uber cheap but still effective (and large: 12" x 12") one I tell you how to get here:
http://youtu.be/T2gBEb7uZ0U


Could you please provide us with the name of the ebay seller you got your LED panels?


It was growace. Not sure if they're still on eBay. But search for a 14 watt, 225 LED plant grow light. That should give you plenty of options. If you have hyper pigmentation, avoid the blue lights at all costs! It can darken spots. Better to go all red.

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I use those moves also - Off hand I think she may call them connecting moves. Aprile I always use my gloves on P2 for lower face and tend to go with probes on P1. I like to 'warm up the face' with gloves - great control. Took my Pico toner with me to Las Vegas and was toned and lifted everyday Very Happy I use a regular regime of Christine's moves now. Thanks Christine - Also used it to penetrate MCR gel from Texas Beauty for hydration after the 5 hour plane ride - followed up with the Merbe. Happy camper.

Bump.

By the way, I received my pico toners and will be using them in another challenge. I need to go at least a month doing nothing to my face so I can do a more "scientific" (lol) study. I think this time I'll do mc only so people can see those results only.

If you have the toners and want some tried and true moves here is a microcurrent tutorial playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1dX1mUSAKEuJVCwg8ZaAQ1Kl3oSSBDfQ

Cheers,
Christine

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Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:29 am      Reply with quote
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We all agree ... I am sure Christine has honor and the ability to evaluate as a professional. She has no reason to make things up and to even question that is an insult to her integrity and others with integrity.
It is a known fact that people believe or say things about others that are really true about themselves. There are people who would lie or stretch the truth and they assume the same is true of others. When you listen to what some people say about other people you really get the idea of who they are, especially negative things.

As far as bias: I've seen you tubers who evaluate products given to them for FREE and they don't like them and say so.
Christine did not say they are selling the product in their shop at this point. Unless I missed it. I would suspect if she felt it was a good product and valuable for her clients she would then want the shop to sell them.
Why in the world would anyone want to sell or promote things they thought were junk.


Well, I can think of thousand reasons why, like being polite, hoping to stay in good terms with the vendor, money, money, money in various forms and shapes. This is a business as usual,normal commercial world.
If it wasn't for the benefit, why on earth you guys are singing praises for Pico message after message. If it was just about sharing how happy you are, one or two time a praise would be more than plenty, everything on top of it is promotion and seeking commercial benefits.
Any claim against above would be an insult to our intelligence.
For Caroline, I am definitely positive that you will see some good results from the Pico test, may be even excellent results. It does not mean the product works, it only means it works for you and you only. If one wants to show that the device works, one need to produce statistically relevant and unbiased (with control group)comparison, but that is money. It is way more cheaper promotion to give the device to a few skin-health interested members who can then start doing the marketing work very actively and bringing the product name wherever and whenever possible. Again, there is nothing wrong with it, it is just a normal consumer marketing technique.
All women magazines are full with the adds of cosmetics, claiming that 78% of the tester experienced substantial reduction of wrinkles after having used the cream for 28 days. Now, if you look carefully at the small print you noticed that the test group was 16 women. How on earth can anyone make any statistical claims based on such a small cohort? To place an add in a magazine is more than a few thousand bucks, now for this money many Picos can be give for free or at a reduced cost (or some other arrangements) and get a tsunami of positive praises. I can only say that the marketing of Pico is really smart (from a professional point of view i mean). My congratulations to them.

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Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:03 am      Reply with quote
Wow, a lot of activity recently.

Daler, I'd like to add myself to the list you made of very happy Pico users. I've been using it since May and will continue, as I've had good results.

Christine, I have learned so much from your videos and mostly use your moves. You are an inspiration and so generous to share your expertise and knowledge with us.
Thank you!!!!

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Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:17 pm      Reply with quote
Bethany, I did get the pico for $350.

I called the company before i posted for a used one on EDS, and spoke to Patricia, who said she would speak to the 'powers that be' and see if there might be an exception to the deadline of their timed sale...

and she did call back the next day with a yes! but made it clear that according to those same 'powers' the sale was 100% absolutely over and there would be no more exceptions.

without the sale i could not have afforded the purchase.

anyway..it seems i'm destined to have this unit now... for better or worse...and i shall soon discover why.
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:55 pm      Reply with quote
jasminerosey 1 wrote:
I went ahead and purchased a new pico...felt my 'universal guidance' literally pushing me towards it..felt it was the right tool..and i especially felt it was the right time...and now i am discovering that Christine is going to be doing a 'challege' with it in a month....so i am beyond excited.


Congrats on your purchase!

Just a few things to keep in mind, that will give you the most chance for success with microcurrent.

1. Have plenty of patience on hand..lol There is no 20 minute shortcuts to success, especially in the first several months.

2. Microcurrent is sub sensory, so you shouldn't really "feel" anything. You must engage the insertion & origin of the muscles, and then hold, hold, hold, for all you are worth. The magic happens when your cells produce additional ATP, which is the "energy" that ultimately gives your muscles the power to re-educate and act younger.

3. And about that lovely builing up of ATP... If you are magnesium deficient, fahgeddabbboudit! If you aren't already taking calcium & magnesium, you will want to add that to your supplement list. Amino Acids are also important, as they are the building blocks of protein.. (All combined will give you the best chance of targeting the mitochondria, which will then make the ATP.)

4. Lymphatic drainage massage to get rid of the sludge.. (Christine has a couple of videos that address this, and one in particular that she uses the Vaculifter with..) I have been doing this for years, and honestly believe it is what contributed to my stellar LED results. (LED treatments also increase ATP!)

5. Plenty of water both pre and post treatment. It is needed to flush the toxins out that you will be releasing with the lymphatic drainage.

6. Just to reiterate #1. The aging process continues with a vengeance. When we opt to keep things natural, we must do our part consistently, just to keep up with that process. If you are really committed to an overall good regime, you can actually halt that clock and turn back the hands of time some what.. (I have done it, so I know it's possible.. And that is quite a feat when you are in your 60's, trust me.) And that is without NO outside intervention whatsoever. Hell, I've never even had a professional facial in my life. I'm no glamour girl jasminerosey, and don't mean to sound boastful at all, I just want others to know that if they aren't looking for quick fix miracles, there are certainly things that can be done at home.

If nothing else don't we all deserve the me time... I think so Very Happy

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Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:57 pm      Reply with quote
I love your take on microcurrent Kassy. I especially agree with your comment about magnesium deficiency and I do believe this could account for many people not achieving the best possible results. Something like 80% of the population is magnesium deficient. I came to find out myself this past year that I was extremely deficient, had all the symptoms!!

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3. And about that lovely builing up of ATP... If you are magnesium deficient, fahgeddabbboudit! If you aren't already taking calcium & magnesium, you will want to add that to your supplement list. Amino Acids are also important, as they are the building blocks of protein.. (All combined will give you the best chance of targeting the mitochondria, which will then make the ATP.)


If I might add though, most people are OVER calcified and get all the calcium they need through food. That is one of the big reasons they are magnesium deficient, especially since most docs say take 1,500 mg. of calcium, while there is virtually no RDA for magnesium. Truly, the best way to get more magnesium into the cells is transdermally using magnesium oil lotion, gel or oil or via baths with magnesium flakes or Epsom salt baths. You can take powdered form also, but if you take too much, you will eliminate it immediately through loose stools.

I recently heard an interview with Dr. Carolyn Dean about this very topic including the ATP component. VERY INTERESTING and important to one's progress/success with microcurrent!!!!

For anyone who is interested, here's the Dr. Dean interview (very enlightening!):

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-carolyn-dean-md-nd-the-magnesium-miracle-changing-your-life-by-getting-enough-july-15-2013/

Best,
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:00 am      Reply with quote
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Just a few things to keep in mind, that will give you the most chance for success with micro current. [...]


This is an excellent list of microcurrent tips.
I'm currently educating myself about microcurrent treatments I and found so many good advices distributed across different threads.
Too bad that we don't have a single thread with all tips and advices together ...
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agatha wrote:
Kassy_A wrote:

Just a few things to keep in mind, that will give you the most chance for success with micro current. [...]


This is an excellent list of microcurrent tips.
I'm currently educating myself about microcurrent treatments I and found so many good advices distributed across different threads.
Too bad that we don't have a single thread with all tips and advices together ...


Definitely - that is an excellent idea. Only the thread needs to be a generic microcurrent thread. That way, *maybe* only those really interested in learning more about microcurrent will participate sans sniping remarks that don't contribute to the overall discussion. But somehow I don't know if that's possible on EDS. Lol. Wink


I'd be happy to participate in a *generic* tips for microcurrent thread. It would be a nice place to keep track of my own progress (or not) with my non-Pico device.

For the almost 7 years I've been a member, there has always been a bit of snarkiness, sarcasm, side picking, and sometimes down right rudeness and name calling. I have had my share on both the giving and receiving ends of it (for one reason or another), but the moral of the story is I am still here.

With probably 95% of us being hormone driven red blooded women, is there any doubt we would sometimes get our panties in a bunch... Bad Grin For the most part I believe we are all loyal, loving, nurturing and giving, and *usually* those traits win out and we can find a way to put the angrier issues to bed.

"We could learn a lot from a box of crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box." ~Robert Fulghum

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Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:14 pm      Reply with quote
I think the perceived product promotion issues are what would keep that from being possible. But if everyone could make a commitment to NOT mention their product name (I am not sure this is possible for everyone, lol), the thread could be a real success.

So who's game to talk micrcurrent without talking specific products? I am!

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RyanA wrote:
Christine-or anyone else-could you weigh in on your opinion on the new Nuface Trinity attachment? I know you can't weigh in from personal experience, but looking at it, do you think it would offer a significant advantage over the regular head? It doesn't look like the probes seperate, they're just thinner and longer, I guess to get around the eye area better.


I don't own the Nuface but I know there are members on the forum who use it as a stand alone device, or for a quick pick-me-up every day. These probes definitely *seem* better to get around the eye area. I found the Nuface stationary probes awkward to use when I did a trial with my friend's Trinity. I think this is pricey too since they don't separate. So you won't be able to grip and hold. Just saying if I were you, I'd call the company and ask if you can get your money back if they don't work any better than the original unit. Best, Aprile
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