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Best treatment for horizontal line above lip (no Botox)?
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:12 pm      Reply with quote
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So sister sweets you don't think applying microcurrent to the belly of the muscle causing the tight contraction that creates the line could relax it to where the line could be erased? In other words, can't "re-education" of the muscle work?


Nonie I do think re-education can work. Absolutely.
Here's where my thoughts come in... Being in the business I'm in. Lip musculature can be killer tight - so tight that when you try to work on someone you almost cannot move the lips appropriately without hurting your own hands. It's involuntary and relentless on the patients part. When I saw that picture that's what I thought of. And maybe... maybe for Ollie what she needs is to release the muscle to give it a chance to relax. Upon relaxation other methods can take hold and create a better environment for her mind to understand and her physical ability to take over.
I am not saying it's the only way but I know how tight and unconvincing the musculature in that area can be.

For Ollie if it's a relatively new thing and it seems like it might be, she may be able to do this without the botox (that would be awesome)> Ollie - you will have to get to the work of it right away and see if change is occurring. And you need to be consistent with it and you will need to do more than a few things. I agree with Nonie hitting the area with microcurrent will help release.
Ollie - for a less invasive start: I would get going with facial detox at the mouth/lip area tonight!!!! and use it two or three times a day. And get frownies or furlesse.

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Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:52 pm      Reply with quote
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Sylphee, Wow! You have such beautiful lips and lovely skin! They're much fuller than mine. I would love to have lips like that!
The space between your lips and your nose is shorter than mine too. To me, your line is very faint. I can barely see it. My line is a little higher and longer. I think I can see mine more because I have very light skin.

I'm hoping facial exercises will do the trick for my additional -smile above a smile line- . I don't think you need to worry much about yours. I think it blends well with the rest of your mouth. I' m open to any other suggestions too!


Aww thanks, Ollie! I agree, I shouldn't worry about my horizontal smile line - but I will keep an eye on it so it does not crease to the point of becoming permanent. Conscious smiling and line awareness? Smile

Like Nonie aka AD mentioned above, "Repeated smiling with that line appearing as it does on you plus deteriorating collagen and skin elasticity as well as increased muscle laxity with age have all added up to that fold becoming ironed in..." I want to avoid that, if at all possible.

For now, I'm backing off of the facial yoga especially since I haven't done my research and heard that spot treatments are not recommended over a full face exercise program. Ahh, and yet another thing to look into.

I wish you all the best in avoiding permanence in your line, as well!! Thanks for bringing it to our attention!!
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:50 pm      Reply with quote
Nonie aka AD, Oh my! That photo scares the heck out of me! I don't mean to be mean but I hope I don't look like that even at 90yrs old! I know what you're saying and I agree with you about expressions becoming permanent.

I've done quite a bit of reading about these facial exercises from different places. I must say I'm pretty impressed by some of the photos. I'm going to send some emails and see what they say. Hopefuly, I'll end up buying one and I 'll be on my way to a younger looking me! Thank you for all your help!

Slyphee, I know what you mean! It looks like I need to start being concious of how wide I smile. I don't want this line of mine to be a permanent line even when I'm not smiling at all. I'm going to do as Nonie aka AD suggested and maybe get into facial exercises. Light and easy ones. I have no idea what I'm doing!

I'll try not to worry so much about the line either. Although It's good to know there's someone out there who has the same kind of problem and can relate to how I'm feeling. Thank you for listening.
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