Pico Toner--my results
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free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:08 pm

sister sweets wrote:

Daler some of those women are in their late 60's, early 70's and the improvements were over a short period of time. The improvements are there. Age can be very cruel. I'm sure you and your friends are hardly close to that age so take a step back.
I too have shown people the video and they have seen those pictures and then they bought the Pico toner. So there you go.

what about people in their mid 50s, they dont like like as if they r in their mid 40s, they look their age, period. and who is in their 70s, please tell, so I go back n check out the video, thank you

ETA: some of my friends are in their 50s, 60s....

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:15 pm

Of course I know Jennifer has plenty of help in the glow department and that it takes money and excellent genes! I also know that when I spend the money on microderms and facials, proven products etc. my skin glows more than usual. It is truly a luxury.
I was just saying that when I think of "glow" that is what I picture, however much it took to acheive it or genetics involved. Wink

If a reasonably priced product/serum could help in that department I am all over it.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:11 pm

Pico Toner can definitely give the skin that glow we are all looking for. Sis is so right though aging can be cruel. After a certain age, (and this is where it gets dicey, because everyone it so different), we need all the help we can get. Energized water (ASG), alkaline water, mineralization and a healthy diet, all contribute to your success OR lack of success with Pico. That's just the way it is. I totally saw the difference when I upped my magnesium intake. Kassy is the one who brought this to my attention that low magnesium equates to less ATP production. She was so right! I already knew I was deficient, but since I upped my magnesium, my results with Pico have been even better and longer lasting.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:22 pm

April I agree. I even wet my Pico gloves with my ionized, alkalinized, magnetized Laughing

super water. I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off. And then I rewet my face during tx with ASG. You need to do many things to retain a youthful countenance.
When you meet an older person who still has the look of youth - you can't always put a finger on one specific thing - or the why of it. You just know they are looking better or healthier than their peers. Basically it comes down to cumulative use of many things: A partial but necessary list is: Healthy foods, pure water, exercise, appropriate supplement use (Jack Lalane!!!) and for many of us: making best use of gadgets. Serums and creams will only do so much to give a youthful look (next to nothing really) without covering your bases on the inside.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:43 pm

sister sweets wrote:

I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off.

I thought you were using the Neurotris ion spray?
When people found a dirt cheap conductive spray online, you said people had to use the Neurotris spray so they wouldn't void their warranty.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:32 pm

CookieD wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off.

I thought you were using the Neurotris ion spray?
When people found a dirt cheap conductive spray online, you said people had to use the Neurotris spray so they wouldn't void their warranty.

Cookie,

Plain water does not conflict with the unit. Other sprays with too high salt concentrations could potentially muck up the gloves. Even Neurotris states you can use plain water... No biggie there. Even using ASG would not conflict since its energized water.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:10 pm

aprile wrote:

CookieD wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off.

I thought you were using the Neurotris ion spray?
When people found a dirt cheap conductive spray online, you said people had to use the Neurotris spray so they wouldn't void their warranty.

Cookie,

Plain water does not conflict with the unit. Other sprays with too high salt concentrations could potentially muck up the gloves. Even Neurotris states you can use plain water... No biggie there. Even using ASG would not conflict since its energized water.

Since ASG is not just plain water(as is always said) and not a Pico toner conductive spray I would think using it could void the Pico warranty also.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:12 pm

CookieD wrote:

aprile wrote:

CookieD wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off.

I thought you were using the Neurotris ion spray?
When people found a dirt cheap conductive spray online, you said people had to use the Neurotris spray so they wouldn't void their warranty.

Cookie,

Plain water does not conflict with the unit. Other sprays with too high salt concentrations could potentially muck up the gloves. Even Neurotris states you can use plain water... No biggie there. Even using ASG would not conflict since its energized water.

Since ASG is not just plain water(as is always said) and not a Pico toner conductive spray I would think using it could void the Pico warranty also.

Good point CookieD...

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:27 pm

Toby wrote:

I sent an email in reference to questions about the use of more moisturizing creams and the conductive spray and am posting the following email from the company....

Quote:

NeurotriS Company
We strongly recommend that our spray is used as our spray is formulated to the proper dielectric tune to allow the proper amount of current draw from the Pico Toner and proper signal disbursement over the full surface of the gloves. Using homemade solutions may not be the same. Salts are Ionic. Making an Ionic solution that is too hypertonic can demand more current from the Pico Toner that is recommended and may damage the device.

We recommend that if you want to use other skin creams or gels you should still use our spray and do the treatment for the first 10 min with the gloves and our spray and for the final 10 min you can add your skin creams of choice to help penetrate that into the skin to help condition the skin.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:57 pm

Sister Sweets, i hope it is proper to say how beautiful you looked on the LV conference video..as I am attributing your beauty to the pico toner as well as to the ASG

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:06 pm

CookieD wrote:

aprile wrote:

CookieD wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

I used to use the tap but the chlorines and all the junk really turned me off.

I thought you were using the Neurotris ion spray?
When people found a dirt cheap conductive spray online, you said people had to use the Neurotris spray so they wouldn't void their warranty.

Cookie,

Plain water does not conflict with the unit. Other sprays with too high salt concentrations could potentially muck up the gloves. Even Neurotris states you can use plain water... No biggie there. Even using ASG would not conflict since its energized water.

Since ASG is not just plain water(as is always said) and not a Pico toner conductive spray I would think using it could void the Pico warranty also.

ASG doesn't have anything sticky or clogging in it. Also the ingredients used are energizing the water, and not found in the final product. An energetic product like ASG enhances Pico results... they compliment one another, as would any other energetic product, drinking water, etc. Neurotris said it would be fine to use with Pico. I spray my face, rub it in and use with gloves with just plain, filtered water. Any salt on my skin is too irritating for me.

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:08 pm

Tonia and Bethany,

both of you expressed some interest in the gua sha myofascial 'facelift' (using the gua sha board to 'dissolve' the tissue knots or lumps under the surface of the skin especially in the jowl area)

I am including this info on this thread because i believe it is another way to optimize the effect of the pico toner (and prob most other energy emitting skin care devices like the tua trend)

first, the knots/lumps that decrease the meridan energy flow to the face increase as one 'matures'

secondly, i only know of one place to obtain the gua sha myofascial info...and that is in a gua sha advance clinical dvd created as an continuing education course, with CEU'S, for professionsl acupuncturists...but i had no problem purchasing the dvd as a lay person

if you go to Nefeli.com and look under the 'professional' tab you'll see 'dvds' as a category. when you press this tab you'll see a large selection of professional advanced clinical dvd's offered.

i paid $115 for the set i purchased.

this site also offers a much less expensive lay person version (there is a sample of this version on you tube)but this version is nothing like the version i purchased

in the professionsl version..in addition to the myofascial aspect of the protecal..there is also info on performing facial accupressure with the gua sha board (which is much more powerful than using one's fingers on the same points)

also there are different angles to hold the board to accelerate or calm facial energy flow, and a fabulous gua sha 'facelift' technique starting at the collar bone and going up through the neck, jowls,cheeks,eyes,forehead which is very effective

i truly believe that the fanatastic results i've gotten at my age with the pico in just a few sessions is because, in part, i have been doing this gua sha protecol every day for the past several months.

in the dvd there is also much focus on the meridians and acupuncture points of the limbs,torso and spine..which are put forth as really more important to work with than those on the face itself as far as actually decreasing sag, wrinkles and inflammation on the face..since in traditional chinese medicine the whole body is seen as being interconnected. i don't spend that much time on those 'non-facial' points though..perhap once a week.

so, this is quite an involved dvd and not for everyone.

the teacher is assuming the audience knows the acupuncture points and addresses them by 'name' (K3 for example..which is kidney 3) and there is an assumption that one would know where to locate these points.

there are free charts online that can aid in this regard if one had the inclination.

or

one could just purchase a gua sha board on amazon.com and experiment around the jowl area...using the edge of the board to feel the knots/lumps and then using a rounded edge of the board to 'dig in' using closkwise and counterclockwise motions that are deep and intense but not so painful they create damage to the skin...and experiment!

Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:19 pm

is there anyone who knows and can tell me how to post before/after pictures?
thank you.
I have no idea how to add them. I don't see that option. I tried copie and paste, but that didn't work.

Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:19 pm

and I also don't know how to delete a post either Rolling Eyes

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:39 pm

Sandviken - to delete a post - just go to edit - and you delete the post and can write something like double post or edit. You have a short time frame to do this.
I've never posted a picture: The few of mine that have made it to EDS have been done by my friend Toby with my permission. The youtubes of me are posted by Bethany. She finds them and shares them (public domain and all). She knows before I do. It's magic how she knows that.

Anyway To post a picture - - From what I understand, you need to open a photobucket account and I download pictures there and then you are able to download on EDS. I don't know a whole lot more than that. But I'm sure you can figure it out. Best ... Sis

free skin care · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:50 pm

bethany wrote:

Toby wrote:

I sent an email in reference to questions about the use of more moisturizing creams and the conductive spray and am posting the following email from the company....

Quote:

NeurotriS Company
We strongly recommend that our spray is used as our spray is formulated to the proper dielectric tune to allow the proper amount of current draw from the Pico Toner and proper signal disbursement over the full surface of the gloves. Using homemade solutions may not be the same. Salts are Ionic. Making an Ionic solution that is too hypertonic can demand more current from the Pico Toner that is recommended and may damage the device.

We recommend that if you want to use other skin creams or gels you should still use our spray and do the treatment for the first 10 min with the gloves and our spray and for the final 10 min you can add your skin creams of choice to help penetrate that into the skin to help condition the skin.

Thanks for this Bethany. I use the conductive spray - after I dampen my gloves with my super water. (I rewet the gloves with ASG and water during the treatment to enhance conductivity). I don't use tap water.

If I'm travelling carry-on; things change; I don't take the conductive spray and am stuck with tap water and I use the ASG. Like next week when I'm in Florida. But I'll suffer.

Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:07 am

sister sweets wrote:

Sandviken - to delete a post - just go to edit - and you delete the post and can write something like double post or edit. You have a short time frame to do this.
I've never posted a picture: The few of mine that have made it to EDS have been done by my friend Toby with my permission. The youtubes of me are posted by Bethany. She finds them and shares them (public domain and all). She knows before I do. It's magic how she knows that.

Anyway To post a picture - - From what I understand, you need to open a photobucket account and I download pictures there and then you are able to download on EDS. I don't know a whole lot more than that. But I'm sure you can figure it out. Best ... Sis

Yes, simply upload your pics to a free image hosting site like Photobucket and then post the "IMG" link here for your photos to show within your post. HTHs, Sandviken!

For those interested in furthering the discussion on holistic health & beauty practices / products and their experiences with it, a new topic has been started here:

Holistic Health & Beauty -- let's share what works
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=50390

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:40 am

I'm glad this thread is open again.

I have wanted to ask if anyone else notices a mood boost when you use this. I think pumping up my cheek muscles makes me want to smile more.

Aprile mentioned doing a 2 minute touch up on another thread. That's a great idea for days that I am pressed for time.

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:10 pm

What is a 2 min touch-up?

Also there was something for corners of the mouth; and I would appreciate any advice about eye bags - what would work with that.

TIA

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:03 pm

sigma wrote:

and I would appreciate any advice about eye bags - what would work with that.

TIA

I found this tutorial for lymphatic drainage (specific to the eye area), nicely beneficial to my dreaded malar bags..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z3VUi3wqWw

If it can help release the fluid filled sacs of malar bags, I have no doubt you will find it useful too.. Wink

Lymphatic drainage is so important in general, but it's essential for a successful result for so many gadget treatments.. (Just MHO of course.)

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:22 pm

Kassy,

thank you again - such an excellent idea.
May make sense to do Tanaka before Pico or other MC treatments.

Thanks!

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:35 pm

sigma wrote:

Kassy,

thank you again - such an excellent idea.
May make sense to do Tanaka before Pico or other MC treatments.

Thanks!

Sigma - Toby used some Tanaka techniques and similar when she used the Neurotris professional machine on me. She did them before the actual Pro Tx.

free skin care · Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:41 pm

Yep,

makes a lot of sense.
I also think that the probes might be more effective for me in chin/neck area (sadly due to fatty deposits in this area); would not know until I am able to try it though.

Thanks!

free skin care · Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:29 am

i have just bought the pico toner from EDS. has anyone been using it on the bust area? i could nt find any instructions on how to lift and firm the body area. thanks!

free skin care · Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:05 am

Do you girls recommend the pico toner for a 35 years old with no wrinkles and no sagging and good skin condition?
I would like to use it just for maintenance but it is very expensive.
Do you think it is worth just for mai tenance or that i could do with something cheaper? If so which gadget do you recommend?

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