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Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:45 pm |
Hmmm, well, I am very interested in how this goes. I ordered the light and hopefully it will work for me! |
_________________ 29, Asian/Caucasion, extremely sensitive skin prone to post inflamatory hyperpigmentation, eczema, milia and breakouts. Under control and want to keep it that way! |
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:59 pm |
Well, I just got my 120 660 from theledman.
It does not get too hot- just a little warm.
My 120 880 will prolly be here, tomorrow. I'll let y'all know how it goes!
So far, I'm impressed with JV, and very impressed with the quality of the little machine!
My issue is anti=aging. |
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:27 pm |
Okay, so I just finished with the 660/880 and am not sure. I can tell a little tingling however, this might be the warmth of the light. No, it didn't get hot and I did 5 minutes each section on my face.
So, it looks like the skin is not as blotchy, my tiny wrinkles on the sides of my eyes do not look as deep and I can tell it made some blood flow. I did one side of my face and it stayed a little flush afterwards. It felt so good that I did the other side.
I am not sure if this is lasting results however, I like how it feels. I am going to keep it up. |
_________________ 29, Asian/Caucasion, extremely sensitive skin prone to post inflamatory hyperpigmentation, eczema, milia and breakouts. Under control and want to keep it that way! |
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:24 am |
I'm 61, and have been mistaken for 15 years younger, for a long time.
But, no good thing lasts forever, and time has started to show in my skin.
I have that north Celtic skin-- thin, fine, very fair, and hyperreactive. Oily, on top of everything else. Dermatologists LOVE people like me.
I just recently noticed that the skin on my hands had thinned to the point that I was almost a walking anatomy lesson.
So, I ordered a red 120 660 from theledman. The next day, after it had already been sent, I ordered an IR 120 880 (wishing I had ordered the combo).
After three days of five minutes to hands, face, and right forearm-- not bad!
I don't see any change in my face yet.
But, one sunspot is already gone from my arm, and three are about half gone.
And, I can already see a slight collagen increase in both hands.
I don't know, yet, whether the progress will continue or even hold. But, so far, I'm pretty pleased.
I'm considering buying a blue unit. I'm a nurse, and the blue LEDS are supposed to kill MRSA. We get exposed to it fairly often. I haven't caught anything, yet. I'd like to keep it that way.
Also considering a 120 mixed 660/880. (Which I shoulda got in the FIRST place).
Seems like having an IR 880 for facial use could help rejuvenate the facial muscles, as well as the skin. So, I will be alternating my 660 and 880, until I figure out how I react to them.
So, it's off to a session with the lights, the facial-flex, and the head sit-ups!
Later, ladies!
Oh! BTW-- I hear theledman's units run a little warm to make the LEDs burn brighter, for better penetration.
BTW2-- I'm gonna give it at least two months before I seriously evaluate efficacy. It'll take that much time, IMHO, at least, to regenerate the deep layers. |
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:36 am |
Le_Male wrote: |
@Bethany & all
Hello, I am interested in buying a panel led to TheLedman. I want the panels to bright freckles and blemishes. After reading a lot of information online, I'm not sure which is most appropriate if the green light or yellow light. I have the option of requesting a dual unit with both lights.
I hope your answers
Regards |
So far, having tried the Baby Quasar and theledman, I think the latter may be stronger.
My Baby Quasar has 6 red, 6 (yellow? orange?) and 12 IR diodes. For $349.
My ledman units have 120 red and 120 IR for $119 each. And, I'm seeing quicker change with theledman.
But, that's only after three days use. |
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:29 pm |
Hi Kari, what is your treatment protocol with the lights? Also, does the LED Man recommend using seperate treatment times for the infrared and red lights? I know that with the Omnilux Nu-U it is advised to use 20 mins per area with infrared on one day and then 20 mins per area with red light the next day. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:30 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
Hi Kari, what is your treatment protocol with the lights? Also, does the LED Man recommend using seperate treatment times for the infrared and red lights? I know that with the Omnilux Nu-U it is advised to use 20 mins per area with infrared on one day and then 20 mins per area with red light the next day. |
I think it's 5 minutes per section.
I didn't ask him about treatments, because he's not a treatment expert.
I'm doing red one day, IR the next, too.
I also just bought a 120 590nm from him. I read on another thread that people are getting good collagen production from just the amber.
I'm almost down to two sunspots on my right arm, after four days. I will prolly wake up and find that I'm down to two. They are fading fast.
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:45 pm |
Hmmmmm, I have been using both together.
It is weird that I can't see the IR, however, I can feel it more than the red....if that makes senee.
BTW, it healed me up fast for my test spot of IPL on my face. I didn't realize it till just now. |
_________________ 29, Asian/Caucasion, extremely sensitive skin prone to post inflamatory hyperpigmentation, eczema, milia and breakouts. Under control and want to keep it that way! |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:15 am |
Miss Tina wrote: |
Hmmmmm, I have been using both together.
It is weird that I can't see the IR, however, I can feel it more than the red....if that makes senee. |
IR wavelenth is invisible to the human eye.
Kari, thanks for the info - it sounds like you're making progress, keep us updated. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:31 am |
Keliu wrote: |
Miss Tina wrote: |
Hmmmmm, I have been using both together.
It is weird that I can't see the IR, however, I can feel it more than the red....if that makes senee. |
IR wavelenth is invisible to the human eye.
Kari, thanks for the info - it sounds like you're making progress, keep us updated. |
Yeah, I know this, I was just stating that the IR although invisible to the human eye seems to work more than the red.
As far as the protocal of using the lights; should we be using this everyday? Is that overkill on our skin? Maybe once or twice a week (One treatment for each light). I do not want to overkill my skin. That isn't the goal here. |
_________________ 29, Asian/Caucasion, extremely sensitive skin prone to post inflamatory hyperpigmentation, eczema, milia and breakouts. Under control and want to keep it that way! |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:19 am |
Keliu wrote: |
Miss Tina wrote: |
Hmmmmm, I have been using both together.
It is weird that I can't see the IR, however, I can feel it more than the red....if that makes senee. |
IR wavelenth is invisible to the human eye.
Kari, thanks for the info - it sounds like you're making progress, keep us updated. |
Will do!
But, I wouldn't look directly at the IR, too much, if I were you. |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:22 am |
Keliu wrote: |
Miss Tina wrote: |
Hmmmmm, I have been using both together.
It is weird that I can't see the IR, however, I can feel it more than the red....if that makes senee. |
IR wavelenth is invisible to the human eye.
Kari, thanks for the info - it sounds like you're making progress, keep us updated. |
I'll do that! Thanks! |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:28 pm |
Miss Tina wrote: |
As far as the protocal of using the lights; should we be using this everyday? Is that overkill on our skin? Maybe once or twice a week (One treatment for each light). I do not want to overkill my skin. That isn't the goal here. |
This is the million $ question - and there seems to be different advice for different LEDs. ProLight recommends 30 secs per area once a week - Omnilux says 20 mins per area once a day. All very confusing. I have an Anti Aging Lightstim and use it for 2 mins per area just about every day. Do what you feel comfortable with and monitor your skin. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:54 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
Miss Tina wrote: |
As far as the protocal of using the lights; should we be using this everyday? Is that overkill on our skin? Maybe once or twice a week (One treatment for each light). I do not want to overkill my skin. That isn't the goal here. |
This is the million $ question - and there seems to be different advice for different LEDs. ProLight recommends 30 secs per area once a week - Omnilux says 20 mins per area once a day. All very confusing. I have an Anti Aging Lightstim and use it for 2 mins per area just about every day. Do what you feel comfortable with and monitor your skin. |
None the less, I feel a little silly saying this because I have already purchased a LED light. I need to do a little more research on this LED thing, the potency of the light purchased and proper use for the maximum benefit. |
_________________ 29, Asian/Caucasion, extremely sensitive skin prone to post inflamatory hyperpigmentation, eczema, milia and breakouts. Under control and want to keep it that way! |
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koogie
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Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:44 pm |
My first post, so - hello!
I'm wondering if anyone has used leds for white scars, rather than hyperpigmentation?
I have small flat white scars on pale freckly skin (scottish!). As per the suggestions in acne.org, I'm starting dermarolling, and was looking into using leds to stimulate collagen growth.
I'm guessing I don't want amber or green leds, as I do not want to reduce pigmentation - quite the opposite!
I think I need red/infrared lights, so was looking into getting one of those from theledman.
I know white scars are difficult to deal with, but there have been reports of repigmenting white scars through dermarolling - which is what I'm hoping for.
Also, and I'm really sorry if this is the wrong forum - vitamin C seems to be really important to promote collagen growth, but I've heard it also inhibits melanin production. Has anyone with hypopigmentation used topical vitamin c with success?
Thanks a lot to anyone who can help me.
Koogie |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:11 pm |
Week One Report:
After one week, there has been some improvement in my hands. Skin is slightly thicker. Skin turgor is down to two seconds, which is good.
I have not yet noticed positive change in my facial skin, Except for a 2.3 cm x 2.4 cm "problem" area on my right cheekbone, where there is some visible tone improvement.
Since most people see improvement after three weeks to a months, what I'm seeing is satisfying.
I should receive my amber 590 120 diode hand held from theledman on Thursday. I will use that for one week, all by itself. That should determine, at least for me, whether the amber or the red/IR generates more/faster collagen.
I'm also being careful to ingest 64 g. of protein, per day, so the building blocks are available. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:42 pm |
Hi all! I'm a newbie so all of this is very confusing, but incredibly fascinating
What I'm wondering is the ledman's yellow the same as an amber from another led like LightStim? And if you get a large panel (like for the body or entire face) does it still need to maintain direct contact on the skin?
Thanks! |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:51 pm |
txgirl wrote: |
Hi all! I'm a newbie so all of this is very confusing, but incredibly fascinating
What I'm wondering is the ledman's yellow the same as an amber from another led like LightStim? And if you get a large panel (like for the body or entire face) does it still need to maintain direct contact on the skin?
Thanks! |
The last I checked with the LED man he didn't have the specific amber I requested, but did have the 590nm.. So to answer your question, NO, he didn't have the same diodes available that are in the AALS.
Typically, a handheld device, that touches the skin, will give you a better result than a panel model.. The longer treatment times are worth it, in my opinion. |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:39 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
txgirl wrote: |
Hi all! I'm a newbie so all of this is very confusing, but incredibly fascinating
What I'm wondering is the ledman's yellow the same as an amber from another led like LightStim? And if you get a large panel (like for the body or entire face) does it still need to maintain direct contact on the skin?
Thanks! |
The last I checked with the LED man he didn't have the specific amber I requested, but did have the 590nm.. So to answer your question, NO, he didn't have the same diodes available that are in the AALS.
Typically, a handheld device, that touches the skin, will give you a better result than a panel model.. The longer treatment times are worth it, in my opinion. |
I've gotta agree with you on the handheld vs panel.
BTW-- I received my 120 diode 590 nm, today.
I'll report back, in a week.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:44 pm |
Kari wrote: |
I've gotta agree with you on the handheld vs panel.
BTW-- I received my 120 diode 590 nm, today.
I'll report back, in a week.
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Good luck Kari, I hope you have a great result.. Don't forget to exfoliate well before every treatment! |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:57 am |
I'm trying to decide between the Lightstim and something from the LedMan.
The LedMan units are pretty tempting as the specs seem good according to my very limited knowledge.
How are all you LedMan users doing with your units?
Are they easy to use? - they seem as though they might be slightly awkward to hold for an extended amount of time judging from the photos.
Are you happy little campers? |
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Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:14 am |
Hi, Guys, When I use my DPL (panels), I remove them from the stand and hold them directly against my skin. |
_________________ 65 Caucasion, history of acne, sagging, some wrinkling, rough texture. Using Dermawand, AALS, Microderm Machine,Copper Peptides |
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dapex
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Joined: 14 Jul 2010
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Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:38 am |
Hi, I am new here and I have no idea what type of LED unit to buy to try to reduce wrinkles? I have seen mention of a thread about how to pick an LED device but I cant find it anywhere??
Basically I am a 36 yr old British male who spent way to much time on the sunbed as a teenager and now looks much older. I am trying to ease the wrinkles around my eyes, eliminate the broken veins on my cheek bones and just generally rejuvinate my skin..
Any tips of what colours woudl be best in an LED device?? |
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Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:59 am |
Welcome. I can relate to too much time in the tanning booth. I have the Anti Aging light Stim which has a comb of Red, Infared and Amber lights. Maybe others will chime in with their advice...also read the AALS thread and the DPL threads if you just want to purchase a device.
I wish I could say my light has helped with age spots and broken capillaries but it hasn't yet...I am still fairly new into it and willing to give it a good try. It does give my complexion a more even tone though. |
_________________ 38 fair skin,oily, hormonal acne, rosacea...trying to combat facial sagging and skin damage on arms and legs. Currently using a Microdermabrasion machine, Pro High Frequency Device, Faceworks facial exercises, Tua Viso, and AALS. |
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