Has anyone tried ReAura Laser Device from Philips?
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free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:21 am

I tried to use this feature and the agent would not help me - he gave me the address of the Philips "Luma"? team in Canada where I live. They can immediately tell where you are from your address, unfortunately. However, after that, with your help I did manage to log on to the forum which so far has not been terribly helpful. I've learned more here from you and Photoqueen!

I am now between my fifth and 6th treatment on my face, 3rd & 4th on neck and chest. After my last treatment I had a very strong reaction - I woke up the next morning looking like I had a tan. I am getting a lot of pigment dots coming up and DH has noticed that my very large tan keratosis on cheek is definitely fading, maybe 1/3, this is a very old lesion that has had many laser treatments in the past but keeps coming back.

It is hard to tell, but I may be seeing a slight reduction in some wrinkles in the NL area. These are not the actual NL folds, but a sort of miniwrinkle caused by sagging fat pad. But this may just be swelling. There is swelling after each treatment which makes it hard to see if things are temporary or a real improvement. Time will tell, this is just week 3 out of 8. Going on vacation so I will learn if this is convenient enough to use while travelling.

One thing for sure: after a treatment it FEELS like something is happening - the skin feels very "active" for a day or two.

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:40 am

mismis wrote:

I tried to use this feature and the agent would not help me - he gave me the address of the Philips "Luma"? team in Canada where I live. They can immediately tell where you are from your address, unfortunately. However, after that, with your help I did manage to log on to the forum which so far has not been terribly helpful. I've learned more here from you and Photoqueen!

I am now between my fifth and 6th treatment on my face, 3rd & 4th on neck and chest. After my last treatment I had a very strong reaction - I woke up the next morning looking like I had a tan. This is normal

I am getting a lot of pigment dots coming up and DH has noticed that my very large tan keratosis on cheek is definitely fading, maybe 1/3, this is a very old lesion that has had many laser treatments in the past but keeps coming back. Pigments dots are also normal

It is hard to tell, but I may be seeing a slight reduction in some wrinkles in the NL area. These are not the actual NL folds, but a sort of miniwrinkle caused by sagging fat pad. But this may just be swelling. There is swelling after each treatment which makes it hard to see if things are temporary or a real improvement. Time will tell, this is just week 3 out of 8. Going on vacation so I will learn if this is convenient enough to use while travelling.

One thing for sure: after a treatment it FEELS like something is happening - the skin feels very "active" for a day or two.

Wait until you have finished the 16th, you will see a difference, also as we all know, it takes 28 days to replace the collagen you are zapping, with new springy collagen, so you will see a big difference, 28 days after you finish the treatment, make sure to give you skin a rest at the end of the 16th treatment, you can use red/IR led, keep the skin hydrated, protect and protect and protect from UV, and use the Avene spring water to calm the skin after each treatment.

PQ

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:59 am

Thanx, PQ! I am looking forward to that!

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:23 am

CookieD wrote:

Tiny wrote:

I am so excited for you getting to use this!! When do you start your face? and perhaps you can answer this, I think its been asked over and over but I am still fuzzy on it. If you stay off all "A" products during treatment and at least 4 weeks prior, and your going to do several rounds of the 16 week treatments (8 off )ect. That means basicly just take A out of your products? right?

Hi Tiny, I can start on my face this weekend but I am thinking about doing a little experiment/testing with AA so I might have to wait till the weekend after. I haven't decided yet.
On any A products you have to be off them for 4 weeks prior to starting and 2 weeks after completing the treatments not including the 8 weeks of actual ReAura usage. A total of 14 weeks. So if I do what PQ suggested up above (8 weeks on/treatment 8 weeks rest) I could technically use A product for 2 weeks but I don't think it's really worth it. So I will probably just not use any RA for the first two series. Who knows maybe it will work so well I don't need RA anymore. We can only hope. Very Happy

Hope this makes sense. I am really excited. This is something I had my eye on even before it went on sale to the public.

Thanks now I get it, 16 weeks is total time, down time as well! I'd just stay off A's too, tons easier! I look forward to hearing your progress, PQ's are fantastic as well as the bloggers (sry cant recall her name)! Good Luck

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:05 pm

Tiny wrote:

CookieD wrote:

Tiny wrote:

I am so excited for you getting to use this!! When do you start your face? and perhaps you can answer this, I think its been asked over and over but I am still fuzzy on it. If you stay off all "A" products during treatment and at least 4 weeks prior, and your going to do several rounds of the 16 week treatments (8 off )ect. That means basicly just take A out of your products? right?

Hi Tiny, I can start on my face this weekend but I am thinking about doing a little experiment/testing with AA so I might have to wait till the weekend after. I haven't decided yet.
On any A products you have to be off them for 4 weeks prior to starting and 2 weeks after completing the treatments not including the 8 weeks of actual ReAura usage. A total of 14 weeks. So if I do what PQ suggested up above (8 weeks on/treatment 8 weeks rest) I could technically use A product for 2 weeks but I don't think it's really worth it. So I will probably just not use any RA for the first two series. Who knows maybe it will work so well I don't need RA anymore. We can only hope. Very Happy

Hope this makes sense. I am really excited. This is something I had my eye on even before it went on sale to the public.

Thanks now I get it, 16 weeks is total time, down time as well! I'd just stay off A's too, tons easier! I look forward to hearing your progress, PQ's are fantastic as well as the bloggers (sry cant recall her name)! Good Luck

Tiny, you may have to be off PMD as well.. i am not sure but I think they say no retin A as it causes peeling n skin renewal and so does the PMD...

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:28 pm

mismis wrote:

I tried to use this feature and the agent would not help me - he gave me the address of the Philips "Luma"? team in Canada where I live. They can immediately tell where you are from your address, unfortunately. However, after that, with your help I did manage to log on to the forum which so far has not been terribly helpful. I've learned more here from you and Photoqueen!

I am now between my fifth and 6th treatment on my face, 3rd & 4th on neck and chest. After my last treatment I had a very strong reaction - I woke up the next morning looking like I had a tan. I am getting a lot of pigment dots coming up and DH has noticed that my very large tan keratosis on cheek is definitely fading, maybe 1/3, this is a very old lesion that has had many laser treatments in the past but keeps coming back.

It is hard to tell, but I may be seeing a slight reduction in some wrinkles in the NL area. These are not the actual NL folds, but a sort of miniwrinkle caused by sagging fat pad. But this may just be swelling. There is swelling after each treatment which makes it hard to see if things are temporary or a real improvement. Time will tell, this is just week 3 out of 8. Going on vacation so I will learn if this is convenient enough to use while travelling.

One thing for sure: after a treatment it FEELS like something is happening - the skin feels very "active" for a day or two.

Thanks for the update. I do think the ReAura website could be more user friendly. Did you see where I asked your question about the estrogen cream? It is in the same section where people write their comments. They never answered it so I'm just wondering if the question shows up when other people log in. Of course this is the same section I asked about the Retin A and they did answered that question.

ETA Thanks for the information on the chat feature. Maybe I will just call them.

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:46 pm

daler wrote:

Tiny, you may have to be off PMD as well.. i am not sure but I think they say no retin A as it causes peeling n skin renewal and so does the PMD...

I would think also that you could not use the PMD
for a certain amount of time both before and after your ReAura series. I think you have to be off any acids for 2 weeks before and after and I would think PMD would be in that same category if not higher. You would have to check with ReAura people for sure but my guess is 2 to 4 weeks before and 2 weeks after.

free skin care · Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:54 pm

Cookie, I could not find the question you posted for me - that website is a nightmare. I think I will just ask at the clinic I go to for veins where the docs also do fractional laser if estrogen skin cream is contra-indicated. But thanks for trying!

Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:25 am

Hi All,

I bought the ReAura device from UK last week and just found we have to stop those RA/Vit C and the acid skincare. so can anyone tell me whether I can use the below ingredients during the treatment

Niacinamide,
Hyaluronic Acid Serum
KinNiaNAG serum
Vit C Serum
LightStim Anti-Aging device

Thanks so much:!:

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:27 am

CookieD wrote:

daler wrote:

Tiny, you may have to be off PMD as well.. i am not sure but I think they say no retin A as it causes peeling n skin renewal and so does the PMD...

I would think also that you could not use the PMD
for a certain amount of time both before and after your ReAura series. I think you have to be off any acids for 2 weeks before and after and I would think PMD would be in that same category if not higher. You would have to check with ReAura people for sure but my guess is 2 to 4 weeks before and 2 weeks after.

I would agree that the PMD would need to be stopped, but as I type that, I wonder, don't some do laser and microdermabrasion at the same time? Personally I would not, but not sure you couldn't.

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:37 am

rc282828 wrote:

Hi All,

I bought the ReAura device from UK last week and just found we have to stop those RA/Vit C and the acid skincare. so can anyone tell me whether I can use the below ingredients during the treatment

These are my suggestions, you will also need to check with the supplier of these products, to be 100% sure:

Niacinamide, - avoid
Hyaluronic Acid Serum - should be ok
KinNiaNAG serum - ok as a night serum
Vit C Serum - ok

LightStim Anti-Aging device - highly recommended to aid the skin regeneration process, but not on the same day as the reaura, use it the following day.

Thanks so much:!:

PQ

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:57 am

photoqueen wrote:

rc282828 wrote:

Hi All,

I bought the ReAura device from UK last week and just found we have to stop those RA/Vit C and the acid skincare. so can anyone tell me whether I can use the below ingredients during the treatment

These are my suggestions, you will also need to check with the supplier of these products, to be 100% sure:

Niacinamide, - avoid
Hyaluronic Acid Serum - should be ok
KinNiaNAG serum - ok as a night serum
Vit C Serum - ok

LightStim Anti-Aging device - highly recommended to aid the skin regeneration process, but not on the same day as the reaura, use it the following day.

Thanks so much:!:

PQ

Hi PQ, Thanks for the tip about using the LightStim the day after. I wouldn't have thought of that. Can you tell me why you should avoid Niacinamide? Also I was told to avoid Vit C because it made you more sun sensitive. I'm wondering if that is the case. Do you use it while using the laser? Sorry about all the questions but I'm having trouble getting answers from ReAura. Thanks.

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:20 pm

Just did my second face treatment and the redness was completely gone after 1 hour. Impressed. After the first I was lobster red the whole night. My hands though are different story. Did three treatments and the look really horrible - dry and rough. Hope they will heal up nicely!

Does anyone know how long the results obtained from a 8 week treatment cycle can last? I'm thinking of becoming pregnant and the RA is a no go during pregnancy...

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:36 pm

CookieD wrote:

photoqueen wrote:

rc282828 wrote:

Hi All,

I bought the ReAura device from UK last week and just found we have to stop those RA/Vit C and the acid skincare. so can anyone tell me whether I can use the below ingredients during the treatment

These are my suggestions, you will also need to check with the supplier of these products, to be 100% sure:

Niacinamide, - avoid
Hyaluronic Acid Serum - should be ok
KinNiaNAG serum - ok as a night serum
Vit C Serum - ok

LightStim Anti-Aging device - highly recommended to aid the skin regeneration process, but not on the same day as the reaura, use it the following day.

Thanks so much:!:

PQ

Hi PQ, Thanks for the tip about using the LightStim the day after. I wouldn't have thought of that. Can you tell me why you should avoid Niacinamide? Also I was told to avoid Vit C because it made you more sun sensitive. I'm wondering if that is the case. Do you use it while using the laser? Sorry about all the questions but I'm having trouble getting answers from ReAura. Thanks.

Hi CookieD,

Niacinamide, I read a review that suggest it can make the skin more sensitive to laser treatments, I will try and find the link.

You are totally right, vitamin C serum does make the skin more sensitive to light, avoid!

Lightstim works really well with Reaura.

PQ

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:19 pm

photoqueen wrote:

CookieD wrote:

photoqueen wrote:

rc282828 wrote:

Hi All,

I bought the ReAura device from UK last week and just found we have to stop those RA/Vit C and the acid skincare. so can anyone tell me whether I can use the below ingredients during the treatment

These are my suggestions, you will also need to check with the supplier of these products, to be 100% sure:

Niacinamide, - avoid
Hyaluronic Acid Serum - should be ok
KinNiaNAG serum - ok as a night serum
Vit C Serum - ok

LightStim Anti-Aging device - highly recommended to aid the skin regeneration process, but not on the same day as the reaura, use it the following day.

Thanks so much:!:

PQ

Hi PQ, Thanks for the tip about using the LightStim the day after. I wouldn't have thought of that. Can you tell me why you should avoid Niacinamide? Also I was told to avoid Vit C because it made you more sun sensitive. I'm wondering if that is the case. Do you use it while using the laser? Sorry about all the questions but I'm having trouble getting answers from ReAura. Thanks.

Hi CookieD,

Niacinamide, I read a review that suggest it can make the skin more sensitive to laser treatments, I will try and find the link.

You are totally right, vitamin C serum does make the skin more sensitive to light, avoid!

Lightstim works really well with Reaura.

PQ

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:57 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

yes, u r right DM!

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:01 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:18 pm

CookieD wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

Hi Cookie,

As daler confirmed also it does have Niacinamide in the recipe.

If I were in your situation I would grab one up, I know PQ knows his gadgets!

It is a major hassle to go through friends in the UK so I will just have to watch and wait....awhile! Sad

I will be looking to your reviews on how it works out for you! Smile

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:20 pm

just wondering if this is going to be any better than the professional lasers like Fraxell and like....

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:43 pm

daler wrote:

just wondering if this is going to be any better than the professional lasers like Fraxell and like....

My feelings are (and these are just feelings since I have not started the treatment on my face yet) is that you are probably going to get quicker and better results with professional lasers. I think where the plus comes in with home products is that you only buy it once so you can do treatments whenever you want. I am also starting to think less is more. Like .5 and 1.0 dermarollers do as much as larger size ones and in that same vain maybe weaker laser done more often can have just as good if not better results.

Same with stronger RA verse retinol. I know there are studies showing it works as well but with less irritation. Maybe this laser will work on the same principle.

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:52 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

CookieD wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

Hi Cookie,

As daler confirmed also it does have Niacinamide in the recipe.

If I were in your situation I would grab one up, I know PQ knows his gadgets!

It is a major hassle to go through friends in the UK so I will just have to watch and wait....awhile! Sad

I will be looking to your reviews on how it works out for you! Smile

Hi DM,
I did try to find a shipping company in the UK that ships things to the US, like they have here. All I was able to find were places that shipped larger items like furniture, cars etc. I'm sure there is someone doing it but I couldn't find a service.

I will keep everyone updated on my progress or lack of.

free skin care · Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:10 pm

CookieD wrote:

Hi DM,
I did try to find a shipping company in the UK that ships things to the US, like they have here. All I was able to find were places that shipped larger items like furniture, cars etc. I'm sure there is someone doing it but I couldn't find a service.

I will keep everyone updated on my progress or lack of.

I just did not want to inconvenience friends, you have the exchange rates ect. to deal with.

I might ask about a UK mailing service though! Smile

I tend to think along the same lines as your less is more, and being able to incur a one time expense and do treatments on your own schedule without paying for a service!

I am really looking forward to your results, seeing how much PQ is thrilled with this I am pretty sure you will see some very good ones! Smile

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:36 am

CookieD wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

CookieD: a good rule of thumb when having any laser treatment that is causing mild skin damage, to invoke the healing process and hopefully new firm collage, is use creams that aid the healing process, avoid creams that cause more irritation, such as Retin A, as you over loading the skin, and you have to give the skin time to heal, regenerate and rest, as you may undo the good that Reaura is doing and not see the results you want.

During the treatment period I avoided 'active creams' that would interfere with the Reaura treatments, keep it to the pre treatment gel, post treatment cream and lots of sun block, and lots of hydrating creams that don't have active ingredients.

If you want specific details about creams etc, DM is the guru.

PQ

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:22 am

photoqueen wrote:

CookieD wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

CookieD: a good rule of thumb when having any laser treatment that is causing mild skin damage, to invoke the healing process and hopefully new firm collage, is use creams that aid the healing process, avoid creams that cause more irritation, such as Retin A, as you over loading the skin, and you have to give the skin time to heal, regenerate and rest, as you may undo the good that Reaura is doing and not see the results you want.

During the treatment period I avoided 'active creams' that would interfere with the Reaura treatments, keep it to the pre treatment gel, post treatment cream and lots of sun block, and lots of hydrating creams that don't have active ingredients.

If you want specific details about creams etc, DM is the guru.

PQ

Now my Dear PQ you are being way too kind, I am far from a GURU!

I just know the recipe in question and Niacinamide is an ingredient, that just happened to catch my eye. Smile

The only thing I have seen about Niacinamide for some is it may cause a bit if flushing, it is also good for calming skin and reducing redness, so why it would be avoided is beyond me.

I am nowhere near as informed on the Reaura as you are!

If you have used the KinNiaNag with no ill effects then I would think you might be able to scratch Niacinamide off the no no list? Very Happy

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:09 am

DarkMoon wrote:

photoqueen wrote:

CookieD wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Watching all of this with great fascination, wish we had a US supplier!

Correct me if I am mistaken but the "NIA in the KinNiaNAG is Niacinamide correct or no?

Thanks PQ
Hi DarkMoon, if KinNiaNAG is the same as Kinerase-Kinetin for the DIY inclined,(sorry tried to post the link but I'm really bad at it and just gave up). The recipe does have Niacinamide in it.

I was hoping there would be a US supplier also but I think it might be awhile. So when I found out my husband was going to Europe I thought it was a perfect opportunity to get one. I was kind of leery since there isn't that much information available other than a few bloggers and PQ but overall the information that is out there has been positive. Hopefully I will be able to add my own positive experience.

CookieD: a good rule of thumb when having any laser treatment that is causing mild skin damage, to invoke the healing process and hopefully new firm collage, is use creams that aid the healing process, avoid creams that cause more irritation, such as Retin A, as you over loading the skin, and you have to give the skin time to heal, regenerate and rest, as you may undo the good that Reaura is doing and not see the results you want.

During the treatment period I avoided 'active creams' that would interfere with the Reaura treatments, keep it to the pre treatment gel, post treatment cream and lots of sun block, and lots of hydrating creams that don't have active ingredients.

If you want specific details about creams etc, DM is the guru.

PQ

Now my Dear PQ you are being way too kind, I am far from a GURU!

I just know the recipe in question and Niacinamide is an ingredient, that just happened to catch my eye. Smile

The only thing I have seen about Niacinamide for some is it may cause a bit if flushing, it is also good for calming skin and reducing redness, so why it would be avoided is beyond me.

I am nowhere near as informed on the Reaura as you are!

If you have used the KinNiaNag with no ill effects then I would think you might be able to scratch Niacinamide off the no no list? Very Happy

DM you are brilliant with creams and serums, it isn't my area.

PQ

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