Tria Skin Rejuvenating Laser, new item on TSC
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Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:01 am

How exciting Rebecca1!!!! I'm so jealous that you are able to jump into level 2 right away! I have wimpy skin that reacts so poorly. You should see results quickly. I'm 3 1/2 weeks in and I'm seeing results even at a constant Level 2. Enjoy!

free skin care · Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:42 am

Skincareaddict22 wrote:

Thanks for your advice and comments. After treatment I use the Tria serum and nothing else for a few hours...excpet that I spritz with my Avene spray to calm down the burning. Normally I use my usual Jouviance routine (serum, anti-oxidant)before bed. Tonight I purchased some Avene Skin Recovery Cream as my cosmetics gal at my local Shoppers Drug Mart tells me it's great to deal with redness...I will try that and see if it helps. I think I'll avoid the area with the Tria for a few days and see if that helps. I do have other red areas that don't seem to calm down so I'm thinking maybe some areas of our skin are just more sensitive than others??

Appreciate the feedback on this as always. Thanks.

Remember to keep your Avene Spray in the fridge before you use it each time.

I also use a cheap facial cloth mask from my local Poundshop, and put the mask on and spray with cold Avene Spray - and leave it for 15 mins, if the mask dries out, spray it again with Avene.

This takes down any amount of post ReAura redness so I think it would work with the Tria too.

PQ

Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:18 am

Thank you photoqueen! I never thought about putting it in the fridge...going to do that now! I find that I'm tolerating it better but the Avene really does help. I want to go to the higher level with my Tria so little tips to reduce the discomfort are great. Thanks again.

free skin care · Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:52 am

I'm with you, Skincareaddict22....I have totally wimpy skin too! I'm wondering if I will ever be able to progress to level 3 on a steady basis. As I told the Tria agent, there's no point in having nice skin if you're red for 8 weeks!

free skin care · Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:52 am

After a week on medium, I went to high on Friday. Whew. I was red for about an hour but then it subsided. I would say it feels like it does if I do a 1.5 derma roll. Did it again on Saturday and going to try again tonight to stick with high. I think my skin might be somewhat tougher because of the dermarolling and I use obagi. Now I'm not so sure about doing the obagi because I don't want my skin raw!!!!!

Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:07 pm

I also have alot of swelling under the eye. I normally do a level 3 on the Tria, but I go very lightly over that area...trying to build up the skin there. If I do a full treatment under the eye, it appears that I have had a major allergic reaction.

I have also been having microcurrent done. Today I have no bags!!!!

Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:51 pm

ReginaB...thanks for your post. I feel a bit better now as I thought this was only me. I agree about the allergic reaction look...it also looks like I've been crying the night before! Either way, not a good look Smile

What is the microcurrent? Is that something for bags under one's eyes?

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:46 am

CookieD wrote:

I don't know if it is same kind of battery but ReAura says to let it completely discharge. The power button starts to glow orange and then after that session it is time to recharge.You can get at least 5 sessions (all of face,neck,chest,hands and forearm) before you have to recharge.

Cookie, where did you read that it is best to let the device completely discharge. I've just checked the instruction book (page 21) and it says, after use, recharge for next treatment.

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:03 am

Keliu wrote:

CookieD wrote:

I don't know if it is same kind of battery but ReAura says to let it completely discharge. The power button starts to glow orange and then after that session it is time to recharge.You can get at least 5 sessions (all of face,neck,chest,hands and forearm) before you have to recharge.

Cookie, where did you read that it is best to let the device completely discharge. I've just checked the instruction book (page 21) and it says, after use, recharge for next treatment.

Keliu, I think I read it in the Q&A section on the ReAura/Philips website but I was not able to find the question when I just looked.(that site is a nightmare) I did post the question on the site and will report back if or when they respond. You are right that in the book and video they do say to charge after use.

One thing I did see in the book while reading through it was the technical specifications. I know some people were interested in the power differences between ReAura and Tria so I thought I would post them and if someone can compare the Tria specs that might give use a better idea of the differences.

Device
Rated voltage 100V-240V
Rated frequency 50HZ-60HZ
Rated input 16W
Protection rating IP 30 (EN60529)
Battery Lithium-ion 3.7V, 1300 mAh

Laser
Laser class 1M
Laser type Diode
Output wavelength 1435nm
Maximum output power 1.5W
Pulse output duration <9 ms

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:54 am

CookieD wrote:

ReginaB wrote:

Sorry, I can do 2.5 complete sessions on my face (all 3 zones) before the battery runs out. Should we be completely discharging the battery between uses or charging everytime between use. Does anyone know? Does this battery have a memory like a laptop or cordless phone battery?

I don't know if it is same kind of battery but ReAura says to let it completely discharge. The power button starts to glow orange and then after that session it is time to recharge.You can get at least 5 sessions (all of face,neck,chest,hands and forearm) before you have to recharge.

I have just spoken to Tria Support and there is no need to fully discharge the battery between uses. For convenience the SRL (Skin Rejuvenating Laser) can be left on charge continuously.

PQ

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:30 am

Thanks CookieD for posting the ReAura specs.

For the Tria:

Charging Cradle Electrical Input: 100-240 VAC at 50-60Hz, 0.2 A max

Laser Output: Class 1M, 1440nm, 12mJ/pulse max

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:41 am

brierrose wrote:

Thanks CookieD for posting the ReAura specs.

For the Tria:

Charging Cradle Electrical Input: 100-240 VAC at 50-60Hz, 0.2 A max

Laser Output: Class 1M, 1440nm, 12mJ/pulse max

ReAura Specs
Device
Rated voltage 100V-240V
Rated frequency 50HZ-60HZ
Rated input 16W
Protection rating IP 30 (EN60529)
Battery Lithium-ion 3.7V, 1300 mAh

Laser
Laser class 1M
Laser type Diode
Output wavelength 1435nm
Maximum output power 1.5W
Pulse output duration <9 ms

So far it looks like they are both the same type of laser class. They seem to have similar output wavelength 1435nm for ReAura and I am assuming, maybe wrongly that the 1440nm number is referring to output wavelength. Looks like the pulse numbers are different Can anyone tell us what these numbers mean?

I'm having my husband look at this information. He is an engineer and might be able to help me.

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:50 am

Does anyone know at full charge, how many minutes you can continuously use the Tria? If you do a 10 minute session on your face and then use it on your arms/body? I tried 10 on my face and then 10 on my arms and it seems to want to shut off the last 2.5 minutes. It is totally charged before using because I put it on there after using everyday....

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:28 pm

CookieD wrote:

brierrose wrote:

Thanks CookieD for posting the ReAura specs.

For the Tria:

Charging Cradle Electrical Input: 100-240 VAC at 50-60Hz, 0.2 A max

Laser Output: Class 1M, 1440nm, 12mJ/pulse max

ReAura Specs
Device
Rated voltage 100V-240V
Rated frequency 50HZ-60HZ
Rated input 16W
Protection rating IP 30 (EN60529)
Battery Lithium-ion 3.7V, 1300 mAh

Laser
Laser class 1M
Laser type Diode
Output wavelength 1435nm
Maximum output power 1.5W
Pulse output duration <9 ms

So far it looks like they are both the same type of laser class. They seem to have similar output wavelength 1435nm for ReAura and I am assuming, maybe wrongly that the 1440nm number is referring to output wavelength. Looks like the pulse numbers are different Can anyone tell us what these numbers mean?

I'm having my husband look at this information. He is an engineer and might be able to help me.

Ok. This is what my DH came up with. It looks like the lasers are almost exactly the same energy/power. My husband did make a mathematical mistake earlier in his calculations (before I submitted them) so if someone wants to check the math please feel free to. So if the math below is correct that would mean that the Tria users (on its highest setting) are getting a much bigger dose of laser/power because they are using it 7 days a week vs 2 days a week for ReAura. Now the time of usage is a little different per session. I think in an earlier post I said to do the whole face with ReAura twice a week is approximately 48 minutes (3 area at 6 min. an area times twice a week)and the Tria is approximately 70 minutes. (4 areas at 10 minutes total times 7 days a week)

If all this holds true I am not surprised that some Tria users are having a harder time moving up to level 3. Especially when you consider that you don't use any gel during a treatment. Now don't get me wrong. I am not trying to say one laser is better or worse then another. I'm just saying that if I did a session everyday with the ReAura I think my skin would be very red and I consider my skin to be really tough.

So what does everyone think about this information?

Below is my DH caculations

From the Tria specs:
A joule (J) is an amount of energy or work. It is equal to one watt for one second 1 ws).
A mJ is a millijoule equal to 1/1000 of a joule.
So 12mJ is 12/1000 of a joule or .012J

From the ReAura specs:
The amount of energy or work produced isn’t given but the maximum power (1.5 watts) and the maximum time or duration <9ms are given. You can calculate the maximum amount of energy or work by multiplying them together (the amount of power for an amount of time) .
The duration is <9ms which is “less than” 9 milliseconds (ms) equal to “less than” .009 seconds (a millisecond is 1/1000 second).
To get the maximum energy or work produced in joules multiply the maximum power of 1.5watts times the maximum duration of .009 seconds. 1.5 times .009 equals .0135 watts-seconds (ws) or joules (j).

The Tria is .012j. The ReAura is .0135j. maximum. On the specs of the ReAura it say the maximum power is 1.5 watts. I am assuming that you are getting that full amount of power. Also the duration of pulse is less than 9 milliseconds. It doesn't state exactly how much less. If the pulse duration is closer to .008 milliseconds than the number for ReAura is .012j. Which is the exact same energy/power as the Tria.

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:47 pm

Wow Cookie you and your hubby have done a great job. As a Tria user with very resilient skin I can tell you level 3 a challenge. I look fine the next day but I really feel the burning afterwards for some time and my skin looks like I have a sun burn.

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:07 pm

Toby wrote:

Wow Cookie you and your hubby have done a great job. As a Tria user with very resilient skin I can tell you level 3 a challenge. I look fine the next day but I really feel the burning afterwards for some time and my skin looks like I have a sun burn.

I just hope all our math is right. This stuff to me is like reading a foreign language so I have to trust me DH. He is very smart but has been really tired lately. Hopefully someone like cm5597 (I think this is the person that understand this kind of stuff) can stop by and look it over to double check.

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:10 pm

Bethany is usually really good at wrapping her brain around this kind of stuff....maybe she will see it as well.

free skin care · Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:09 am

Great post, Cookie. Now I don't feel so bad. Guess I have sensitive skin....everyone at work thinks I have high blood pressure! Laughing

free skin care · Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:13 am

A big thanks to your DH. As you say, no wonder Tria users are having trouble moving up to the highest level.

The ReAura really got me thinking that lower intensity treatment, applied more frequently might be the key to why I get MUCH better resuts with my home machine vs professional treatments - and I have had plenty of professional treatments so I do have a basis for comparison.

In the end, I guess we are all individual and with luck we meet the perfect treatment modality for one's own skin.

On another thread someone suggests that someone might be willing to part with a used ReAura or Tria. Somehow I don't think many would be eager to do that! Well maybe if offered its weight inn gold . . .

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:44 am

Just decided to get a Tria device and write a blog about it at:

http://homebeautydevices.wordpress.com

Will also copying over my findings to EDS too.

PQ

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:47 am

Philip,

Hurray!

As always, I do trust your comments!

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:03 am

summer2004 wrote:

Philip,

Hurray!

As always, I do trust your comments!

Bless you Summer2004.

Philip

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:42 am

photoqueen wrote:

Just decided to get a Tria device and write a blog about it at:

http://homebeautydevices.wordpress.com

Will also copying over my findings to EDS too.

PQ

This is wonderful to know - I have been waffling between purchasing the Reaura or Tria, and look forward to your comments!

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:44 am

summer2004 wrote:

Philip,

Hurray!

As always, I do trust your comments!

Amen to that!

free skin care · Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:12 pm

OOhhh, that's super awesome Philip! I just booked-marked it to read after my kids are in bed.

You're the best! Smile

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