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Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:13 am  |
Scally - Did you try this on your scalp muscles? Exercising them does amazing things for pulling up the sides of the face, forehead and jowels (not that you have any  - I'm just saying). It's like putting your hair up. I'd be intrigued if you tried it. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:20 am |
| lefemme wrote: |
| Hey Scally? Guess I'm a bit (actually a lot!) confused about these facial machines. Don't they all purport to basically do the same thing by working the face muscles? If so, why would anyone need more than one machine? Scally, your pictures made me decide I must get Nuface! My main problem too is the nasolabial folds on my face. But please explain the need for other machines. Thanks much! |
Lefemme, I think it actually depends on the machine you are referring to as to the benefits it provides. The ones mentioned in this thread (besides the BQ) are all supposed to work the facial muscles (i.e. DermalTone, Suzanne Somers, Tua Viso, etc.). I think the difference (or issue, whichever way you want to look at it) is that the Dermal Tone is no longer is business (not an option for me due to this), the Suzanne Somers and Tua Viso are reputed to require a lot of manipulation and time for a session (a search should pull up more details, if interested). The Nuface, on the other hand, only takes minutes (literally 4 for me) a day to use. It's quick and easy and works, as you can see. The price tag is the only downside.
Just so you know, I have a collection of gadgets that I use regularly:
-Clarisonic Facial Brush - atleast 1x/day
-OxyLight - normally 1x/day - use it after products to push them in, gives a nice glow, does some firming and also as a blemish treatment (30 seconds each)
-Baby Quasar - every 1-3 days - evens out skin tone and texture; reduces redness; helps w/broken caps (though slowly); plumps (I love mine)
-Nuface - use 1x/day; tightens muscles on face/neck |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:22 am |
| Molly wrote: |
| Scally - Did you try this on your scalp muscles? Exercising them does amazing things for pulling up the sides of the face, forehead and jowels (not that you have any - I'm just saying). It's like putting your hair up. I'd be intrigued if you tried it. |
Molly, I have not tried this! Interesting observation and I will have to give it a go. I believe the gel is necessary for conductivity but it wouldn't matter if I did it prior to a shower, I'd think.
I will report back the next time I use it incorporating a bit of the scalp muscles into the mix. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:23 am |
mademoiselle scalawag, tu es très méchante!!!
i *really* can't afford this, but you're definitely tempting me.... can you go into a little more detail about the eye area? are you seeing a lift (not that i really noticed much droop)? and how about bags? in the second pick, your bags look lessened, but i'm not sure if that has to do with the Nuface or other products.... come on! we need a full frontal  |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:38 am |
| la vie en rose wrote: |
mademoiselle scalawag, tu es très méchante!!!
i *really* can't afford this, but you're definitely tempting me.... can you go into a little more detail about the eye area? are you seeing a lift (not that i really noticed much droop)? and how about bags? in the second pick, your bags look lessened, but i'm not sure if that has to do with the Nuface or other products.... come on! we need a full frontal |
Oui, oui je sais! Désolée, je t'assure. I do see a lift in the eye area but it seems to translate more on the outer part as having lifted. I definitely noticed a difference here and cannot say the lift was caused by other products (I am using Skin Cubed eye cream, which does tighten things but I don't use it by the ocular bone, just under the eyes).
As for not using it inside the circular eye are, this is due to the instructions saying NOT to use the device inside the nasolabial folds, front of neck or inside the circular bone around the eye. I use it right up to the edge of that bone when I'm working on the cheeks. It goes in a diagonal upward toward the hairline movement.
I'll post a full frontal today a little later. I've got to take a new pic as I only did side shots for the compare. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:02 am |
Here are a couple of today's pics, per Mlle's La Vie's request!!!
I am wearing light makeup (Yay, UGloGirl!) and yep, my lashes are out of control (wheeee).
You can probably see that things are tighter and my neck lines are being helped, as well. I've been using Ice Elements Edelweiss for them so that's probably getting kicked up a notch with the Nuface. I'm loving the results of this thing! Just kind of pulls it all together!
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:47 am |
Wow! You look great in these pics, I swear you look 10 years or more younger than some of your earlier 'before' pics.
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
Take heart, though, I am setting up a mini-nano reef in the next week or so. Are any of you into marine aquaria? If so, we can toss a little chaeto, skimmer, live sand discussions around. Takers??? I'm sure you are all happy to know that I have other obsessions, as well.
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You aren't looking at that 12 gallon Reef Aquarium Costco has on sale this week are you? I have eyed it, but just don't need one more thing to do, but I still keep looking, sale ends today  |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:19 pm |
Hi, I find I am getting better results with the BQ compared to the Beuer, seems much stronger. I bought the Beuer a few years ago,(since I already have it) I still use it occasionally. (I have quite good skin , a few broken caps, not many, so I have not noticed a big difference with the broken caps).
I use the dermawand usually at night after using my creams, ect., it is supposed to help them penetrate better, hths.  |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:39 pm |
| lillilulu wrote: |
| Scallawaggirl, you look FANTASTIC. I've been following your posts on other threads with the photos and your skin looks brilliant. Well done! I'm more confused than ever now though, I've been saving up for a Baby Q, or Lightstim, and now it looks like I need one of these too. I know it's hard to compare when they are both working in their own way, but which would you recommend me getting first? I'm 53, no deep lines so not too worried about them, but I'm trying to lose weight, and am worried about sagging, because although I do facial exercises, my face is plumpish and we all know what happens with weight loss, the face suddenly ages. I've seen this happen to others and am a bit concerned so which do you think would help most to prevent that? |
I have recently lost some weight, not intentionally and I am trying to gain it back. I have noticed quite an increase in sagging in the naso labial area. I wonder if the Nuface works as well on more mature skin? If so I know I want one!
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:20 pm |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
Here are a couple of today's pics, per Mlle's La Vie's request!!!
I am wearing light makeup (Yay, UGloGirl!) and yep, my lashes are out of control (wheeee).
You can probably see that things are tighter and my neck lines are being helped, as well. I've been using Ice Elements Edelweiss for them so that's probably getting kicked up a notch with the Nuface. I'm loving the results of this thing! Just kind of pulls it all together!
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Holy crap! I refuse to believe you are a grandmother. You look amazing in those pictures! Your skin [lips/eyes/hair] looks incredible. Thanks for the review, I wish I could afford this for my mother now.
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Do people fall out of their chairs when they find out your age? |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:56 pm |
| lorimcp wrote: |
Wow! You look great in these pics, I swear you look 10 years or more younger than some of your earlier 'before' pics.
You aren't looking at that 12 gallon Reef Aquarium Costco has on sale this week are you? I have eyed it, but just don't need one more thing to do, but I still keep looking, sale ends today |
Thanks, lorimcp! It's finally all coming together, thanks to these forums and a few others.  I didn't see the 12 gallon you're referring to but have a 14 gallon Oceanic Biocube that I'm doing some modifications to for lighting and filtration. Just got back from the tropical reef store and though it's a small operation, I was very impressed. They actually quarantine their fish there; such a rarity in today's market so I'll be purchasing my items from them.
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Hi, I find I am getting better results with the BQ compared to the Beuer, seems much stronger. I bought the Beuer a few years ago,(since I already have it) I still use it occasionally. (I have quite good skin , a few broken caps, not many, so I have not noticed a big difference with the broken caps).
I use the dermawand usually at night after using my creams, ect., it is supposed to help them penetrate better, hths. |
Excellent info. Exactly what I was looking for in comparison!
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| I have recently lost some weight, not intentionally and I am trying to gain it back. I have noticed quite an increase in sagging in the naso labial area. I wonder if the Nuface works as well on more mature skin? If so I know I want one! |
I don't see why not! I'm 40 and I guess that counts for somewhat mature skin.
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Holy crap! I refuse to believe you are a grandmother. You look amazing in those pictures! Your skin [lips/eyes/hair] looks incredible. Thanks for the review, I wish I could afford this for my mother now.
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Do people fall out of their chairs when they find out your age? |
Thanks!!! I also refuse to believe that I'm a grandmother so that makes two of us. As for falling out of their chair, not so much but people are normally surprised if I mention my children's ages or the grandmother bit. I've always been taken for younger but now with all my gadgets and improved skin care, it's even better!  |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:02 pm |
| Scally? You're a GRANDMOTHER? OMG! Sorry, but I flat out don't believe it! You look like you're 25 for cryin' out loud! Also, thanks so much for your explanation of the various machines out there, and the ones that you use. I did some research last night after reading your post and I have to ask you, where did you purchase your Nuface? They didn't have any on ebay, I checked. One place had it for $450 (the Nuface site) and another had it for I think $365. I just love your picture updates and all I know is that if I had your eyelashes I could die happy! And yes, I'm using the JM lash serum and have been since late October, so it's been about a month and I have seen some improvement as far as lengthening goes... Now I'm waiting on more dense lashes! It will be interesting to see how carekate's product works...Thanks again! |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:22 pm |
| You don't have much sagging skin under your neck but have you used it on your neck and noticed any difference? |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:41 pm |
| lefemme wrote: |
| Scally? You're a GRANDMOTHER? OMG! Sorry, but I flat out don't believe it! You look like you're 25 for cryin' out loud! Also, thanks so much for your explanation of the various machines out there, and the ones that you use. I did some research last night after reading your post and I have to ask you, where did you purchase your Nuface? They didn't have any on ebay, I checked. One place had it for $450 (the Nuface site) and another had it for I think $365. I just love your picture updates and all I know is that if I had your eyelashes I could die happy! And yes, I'm using the JM lash serum and have been since late October, so it's been about a month and I have seen some improvement as far as lengthening goes... Now I'm waiting on more dense lashes! It will be interesting to see how carekate's product works...Thanks again! |
Yup, bonified grandmother but my AKA is Jeema (G-Ma)! $365 is a good price and about what I paid on EDS w/my 15% discount. Only thing is shipping takes awhile to the states (6-10 business days). You'll be surprised when all of a sudden, dense lashes will be there! I'm waiting for the release of more JM as Carekate's lash product doesn't see to be available anytime soon.
Sharky, I've noticed a little bit of sagging under my jaw and believe it's due to CPs - the skin getting used to them - I am using the Nuface on my whole neck and also focus on this part, as well. It is helping, though, because my little neck rings are noticeably shallower. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:34 pm |
Scally, now you're REALLY killing me! I need to pay my rent, not buy a NuFace! 
Everytime you post a pic, I am amazed at how awesome you look! Your lips are looking FANTASTIC and of course the lashes are just plain silly because they're so fabulous!
Please let us know details for your lipcare. They are phenomenal. I know you use DMAE and CPs on them, but HOW? TIA! |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:47 pm |
| MermaidGirl wrote: |
Scally, now you're REALLY killing me! I need to pay my rent, not buy a NuFace!
Everytime you post a pic, I am amazed at how awesome you look! Your lips are looking FANTASTIC and of course the lashes are just plain silly because they're so fabulous!
Please let us know details for your lipcare. They are phenomenal. I know you use DMAE and CPs on them, but HOW? TIA! |
MG, it's the amazing products and the supplements, I think! Thanks so much for your lovely compliments! That must mean it's working, huh? Pay your rent, girl, and then get the Nuface. Wait a minute, aren't you a youngster? Are you sure you need this thing? I recall you mentioning just finishing school - if you're mid-20s, I can't imagine it being necessary just yet.
As for the lips, here's what I do:
Exfoliate w/my normal products (Epidermix II, etc.)
Plump my lips 2x/day with Luscious Lips contraption
Apply DMAE 4% 2x/day
Apply CPs 1x/day in the PM. I use a CP Serum/Super CP Serum mix all over my face and then also put on some Night Eyes Premier after using it on my eyes.
Use my Oxylight 1x/day everywhere and also on my lips to push product in. I also focus on my lips for extra attention when using my Baby Q.
Lastly, I make sure to always wear some type of balm, gloss or lippie so they are always nice and moist! I'm going to be testing out the new lips system so will see how that works with the routine.
I've found that they are filling out nicely of late and assume it's a combination of rebuilding the collagen as well as focused care. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:19 pm |
Scally, you do look unbelievably young. And very pretty too. Even though, I think, you looked very young even before you started the regimen, I can see an even prettier you now (these lashes, lips, my God - don't tell anyone you are a grandmother, you look like you are ready to just start having kids, not grand children).
Please, share (if you do not mind) your complete skin care routine.
TIA,
Lucy. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:29 pm |
| OK Scally, please tell us what supplements you're taking.. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:38 pm |
| Help!! I saw a story on the news about a device that looks like the kind of device you see in nail salons, the apparatus you stick your nails under after their polished. This device shines a light on your hands and takes out the brown spots at a cheap rate...like $30 or $40 a session. Anybody heard of this? My hands are really giving my age away....the little creeps. After all I've done for them, this is the way they're showing their appreciation. Need help for the brown spots on my hands. Any suggestions would be welcome. Amputating the hands has been considered, but ruled out. |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:58 am |
| sigma wrote: |
Scally, you do look unbelievably young. And very pretty too. Even though, I think, you looked very young even before you started the regimen, I can see an even prettier you now (these lashes, lips, my God - don't tell anyone you are a grandmother, you look like you are ready to just start having kids, not grand children).
Please, share (if you do not mind) your complete skin care routine.
TIA,
Lucy. |
Edited to add: thanks, Lucy! I really think that I have stumbled on a really good routine - took a lot of research but it's really coming together so I am one happy lady!
Sure thing! Here is my current skin care routine (does not include other things like eye products, etc.):
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· Ice Refining Cleanser w/Epidermix II to scars
· Ice Elements 2MM and/or Blueberry (3x/week)
· BHA 2%/Mandelic acid 15% all over (about 10 drops) - WAIT 30 minutes (If time, or skip)
· Triple C Serum/25% Vitamin C layered (face, neck, chest and hands)
· Ice Elements Acne Serum spot treatment, then Anti-Aging Serum to face/neck (allow to absorb)
· DMAE 4% under jaw and on lips
· Ultra or Clear Emu oil w/Jojoba/HA lightly applied to face and neck
· SPF 55 Shiseido or Sovina Nuance, if sunny and going to be out a lot - I rely on antioxidants (Vitamin C and internal), if not, which is most of the time
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· Ice Elements Refining Cleanser (use Clarisonic brush)
· BHA (occasional) - wait 30 minutes
· Ice Elements Acne Serum
· Ice Elements Radiance Soufflé
· Ice Elements Edelweiss Serum to face/neck
· CP Serum/Super CP Serum (8 drops) to face, Night Eyes Premier around eyes, CP Serum on neck/BND on décolletage/Folligen to brows
· Ultra Emu oil w/Jojoba/HA lightly applied to face and neck
Every 1-2 weeks, 35% fruit acid peel from Diana Yvonne
Notes: I do a lot of exfoliation each day and occasion peels. This is a very aggressive routine so should be approached w/caution and is appropriate for thick-skinned, oily individuals; however, everyone is different so listen to your skin for irritation and back off, if it occurs.
Vendors:
-www.iceelements.com for all of the Ice Elements line of products
-www.dianayvonne.com for the BHA, Mandelic Acid, Exfol-A (retinoid I use occasionally), Triple C, Vitamin C 25%, Copper Peptides
-www.skinbiology.com for copper peptides (inventor of CPs sold on Diana Yvonne's site) - alternative source |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:34 am |
| lefemme wrote: |
| OK Scally, please tell us what supplements you're taking.. |
Brace yourself, lefemme! I follow the Perricone prescription and buy all of my supps from Vitacost (except for MSM, Tangal posted a great, CHEAP source - I will also likely switch to their coral calcium). Right now, this is what I take; it is following the Perricone Prescription (but that is VERY expensive to purchase directly). I got my list from Debbie on the Skincare Board (she is no longer the forum host). It is extensive and I'm sure many will balk at the # of supps but it works and so I continue to follow it. Here it is:
Supplement List
1) NSI Synergy Basic Multivitamin Version 2 (2 capsules)
2) NSI R-lipoic Acid 100 mg
3) NSI Superior Ester C (2 X 500 mg)
4) Life Extension Ascorbyl Palmitate 500 mg
5) NSI Gamma E Tocopherol Complex 200 IU
6) NSI Tocomin Tocotrienols 60 mg
7) NSI L-Carnitine Fumerate (2 X 500 mg)
NSI Acetyl-L-Carnitine (2 X 500 mg)
9) NSI Q-Gel CoQ10 100 mg
10) NSI Glutamine Powder (1500 mg)
11) NSI Borage Oil 300 or 600 mg
13) New Chapter TumericForce 400 mg
14) NSI Mega EFA Capsules (2 per day) or 1 Tbsp. Carlson's fish oil
15) NSI DMAE 100 mg
16) Calcium 1200 mg
MSM for skin remodeling, even though it is not Perricone recommended. Health Juice Cocktail:
Your favorite juice or toss in b'fast smoothie
1 tsp. glutamine (5 grams)
1 tsp. MSM (4000 mg) - you must first work up to this amount, start at 1/2 tsp.
2 tsp. Silica gel
Oz Garcia (Look and Feel Fabulous Forever pg. 263/264 - use for 3 months to see improvement in quality of hair, nails and skin)
I have this book on my wishlist but can confirm that my nails are in the best shape of my life, they do not snap any more when I bang them against something and are really thick now. I've always had good hair and nails but the supps have taken me to a new level of health and well-being. I can point you to the source links for most of the supplements, if anyone is interested. My list is not exactly the same as Deb's but only due to a few different items. |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:31 am |
Scally,
I'm very new to this forum-lucky for my bank account!! I started obsseviely reading posts a few months ago as I was preparing- with Obagi, to have a series of Fotofacials, with Levulan--for super-blotchy pigmentation. The first levulan was a joke- no redness at all- although the obagi has allready improved my skin tone dramatically itself. I'm due for the 2nd levulan on Tuesday- my ps assured me that there will be some serious redness this time- no pain no gain, right? I'm planning on using my baby q after the 1st 48 hrs to aid in the healing ( I've emailed with James at Advanced therapeutics about this)--any other suggestions on that? NOW--- after reading your posts, AND seeing your unbelievable pics-OMG!!!!; I've also ordered a NuFace. The improvements on your jawline are amazing!-and just what I'm looking for. I tell myself that my upcoming 50th B-day is at fault for all this. However, I know myself well enough, that if I had stumbled upon EDS earlier, I would have without a doubt been one who had purchased all the previous "machines" and potions as well. Age gracefully-I don't think so! Anyway- thank you so much for all your detailed posts and pics--All I have to wait for now, is more JM eyelass stuff to become available, or the CareKate version. I wonder what I'll "have" to buy in the meantime! Robin |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:24 am |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
| I am setting up a mini-nano reef in the next week or so. Are any of you into marine aquaria? If so, we can toss a little chaeto, skimmer, live sand discussions around. Takers??? I'm sure you are all happy to know that I have other obsessions, as well. |
Too cool!
I have a 75g reef and 10g nano.
Also - thanks for posting your skin care and daily supplements routine.
Much appreciated!
CG |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:26 am |
| Thanks Scally your skin does look amazingly good. Thanks for all of the photos and specifics of your routines. It take discipline to do so much. You say that you do only 4 minutes with Nuface, on each spot or total? |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:46 pm |
| kyplantjunkie wrote: |
| I'm planning on using my baby q after the 1st 48 hrs to aid in the healing ( I've emailed with James at Advanced therapeutics about this)--any other suggestions on that? NOW--- after reading your posts, AND seeing your unbelievable pics-OMG!!!!; I've also ordered a NuFace. The improvements on your jawline are amazing!-and just what I'm looking for. I tell myself that my upcoming 50th B-day is at fault for all this. However, I know myself well enough, that if I had stumbled upon EDS earlier, I would have without a doubt been one who had purchased all the previous "machines" and potions as well. Age gracefully-I don't think so! Anyway- thank you so much for all your detailed posts and pics--All I have to wait for now, is more JM eyelass stuff to become available, or the CareKate version. I wonder what I'll "have" to buy in the meantime! Robin |
Robin, excellent that the BQ will help w/your planned treatment and so glad your finding the post/pics helpful; I thought to myself, hey, I'll bet the BQ would help w/this, then read that you already did your research! I completely am with you on the age gracefully thing - I'm kicking and screaming the whole way and plan to age beautifully and look good the whole trip. This forum is ideal for digging up info on devices and products. It really helps get some real world feedback rather than just tossing $ out the door at every little temptation.
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Too cool! Smile
I have a 75g reef and 10g nano.
Also - thanks for posting your skin care and daily supplements routine.
Much appreciated! |
Awesome! I just got back from Lowes and FINALLY found a proper cabinet to house my 14g Oceanic Biocube nano! It's a closet organizer thing but it will fit nicely and it has a drawer, doors and no back so PERFECT! I'm going to put it together in a few minutes then fill the tank w/water for a test run!!! BTW, I used to have a 125g full SPS reef w/55g refugium/sump. Ah, the good old days. I couldn't move it with me and wouldn't have mattered because I live on the 3rd floor now - too dangerous. However, the bug bit once more so I decided to go with a baby-sized one so I could still have my fix!
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| Thanks Scally your skin does look amazingly good. Thanks for all of the photos and specifics of your routines. It take discipline to do so much. You say that you do only 4 minutes with Nuface, on each spot or total? |
Thanks, Sharky! You are most welcome (as is everyone) for the pics/info. I've found that having a printout inside my vanity mirror in the bathroom is VERY helpful to keep it straight. It actually doesn't take me long at all to do the routine - keeping it straight was the problem. As for the time spent on the Nuface routine, it's only 4 minutes from start to finish. I put some aloe vera gel on a section, run the Nuface and move on the next one and repeat. There are only three sections - neck, face/cheeks and forehead. You go over each area 3x and I go slowly - it moves quickly - very easy. FYI, I started using DMAE with the hopes of achieving the results I'm getting w/the Nuface (had no knowledge of the device when I started DMAE) and though I like DMAE for the benefits it gives my lips and jaw, it comes NOWHERE close to what the Nuface does. This gadget is revered by me up there w/my Baby Q.
I have to ping kls and MACrisis because they both have a Nuface and need to get on the ball with using it! I think MAC is doing a test and intends to review eventually (can't believe she hasn't already because of the great results) but kls was only using it intermittently. I need to give them some encouragement! |
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