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Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:03 pm  |
| Hi, fawnie, I took prednisone for one week. It has helped a good bit. The worst of my 2 month long flare up is over. Although both osteo and rheum. still bother me, my osteo hurts me more at this time. |
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:47 pm |
Hi Mars,
Sorry to hear you are going through this. I have RA too. So does my dad. I can't take the more effective methorexate due to another condition I have so I am on the plaquenil now. It doesn't really control it, but I am better than I was. Swelling is under control. I have eaten gluten, soy shellfish free for years. I eat a whole food diet, I think good fats have really helped me, including saturated fat from organic free range meat, and butter (I know this is a shift, but they are not unhealthy as once thought). I basically eat small amounts of quality meats, some good veges, eggs, butter, yoghurt and lots of berries too every day. I have far less inflammation than when I used to eat grains and a lot of carb.
However I still have a lot of low back/hip pain and knees. I am not sure if it is RA, but don't know what else it would be. My energy levels are much better on a low carb/sugar diet. I am also slim and have never been overweight.
I hope your op goes well, I'll be thinking of you. |
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:07 am |
Thank you, Idealist. One sign you have RA is that the swelling, pain, etc. is symmetrical. What's happening on your right side, happens on your left side.
I'm sorry you are living with pain, too. Thank you for sharing. |
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:55 pm |
Yes how unfortunately true. Instead of limping, you hobble  |
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:20 pm |
Comfrey for real plant organic calcium.
See a good chiropractor also.
And dont care about how medical calls a condition. |
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:16 pm |
Comfrey has been linked with liver problems, and is not safe. Its an old folk remedy that is outdated and downright dangerous.
Public Health Nutr. 2000 Dec;3(4A):501-8.
The efficacy and safety of comfrey.
Stickel F, Seitz HK.
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Department of Medicine I, Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, University of Erlangen-Nuernberg, Krankenhausstrasse 12, 91054 Erlangen, Germany. felix.stickel@med1.med.uni-erlangen.de
Abstract
Herbal medication has gathered increasing recognition in recent years with regard to both treatment options and health hazards. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with substantial toxicity after their ingestion as tea and in the setting of contaminated cereals have led to endemic outbreaks in Jamaica, India and Afghanistan. In Western Europe, comfrey has been applied for inflammatory disorders such as arthritis, thrombophlebitis and gout and as a treatment for diarrhoea. Only recently was the use of comfrey leaves recognized as a substantial health hazard with hepatic toxicity in humans and carcinogenic potential in rodents. These effects are most likely due to various hepatotoxic pyrrolizidine alkaloids such as lasiocarpine and symphytine, and their related N-oxides. The mechanisms by which toxicity and mutagenicity are conveyed are still not fully understood, but seem to be mediated through a toxic mechanism related to the biotransformation of alkaloids by hepatic microsomal enzymes. This produces highly reactive pyrroles which act as powerful alkylating agents. The main liver injury caused by comfrey (Symphytum officinale) is veno-occlusive disease, a non-thrombotic obliteration of small hepatic veins leading to cirrhosis and eventually liver failure. Patients may present with either acute or chronic clinical signs with portal hypertension, hepatomegaly and abdominal pain as the main features. Therapeutic approaches include avoiding intake and, if hepatic failure is imminent, liver transplantation. In view of the known serious hazards and the ban on distributing comfrey in Germany and Canada, it is difficult to understand why comfrey is still freely available in the United States.
PMID: 11276298 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] |
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:29 pm |
It was a chiropractor that gave me my current 3 year long low back pain stint. He decided to straighten my hips (I had no problem with them before this and didn't even know they were crooked), and I have been in agony since. I rue the day I set foot in his office. He was quite the showman 
Obviously they help some people though. Just not me. I have always suffered pain for weeks after an adjustment. |
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:55 am |
There is a controversy about comfrey. And a misunderstanding about herbal cures: they are MEDICINE, that is: you shouldn't mess around with them but know what you are doing, what the interactions are with other medicines and what the possible side effects will be.
Comfrey is a very good healing herb for specific ailments, to be taken for a limited amount of time, in a proper dosage, as advised by an expert in herbal medicine who takes into account your medical history, other medications you take, and monitors your progress.
Just because it doesn't come from a factory doesn't mean it's less potent than a pill. |
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:20 am |
| I know someone with osteoarthritis who had some relief from stinging nettle tea/soup. |
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Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:34 pm |
These things give me a little relief:
Glucosamine with Chondroitin Supplement
Magnesium
Fish Oil
q10
Gentle exercise like pilates, swimming, urban rebounder. Don't overdo.
Soaking in a hot tub with epsom salts and peppermint essential oil.
And...soaking in a real hot tub/spa
Hope you feel better.  |
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:56 am |
I know everyone is going to jump all over me about this but chiropractors are mostly about the placebo effect. Think rationally. The spine can't be so easily readjusted. If this were the case then football players would come off the field with their backs all zig-zaggy from all the hits they take. Children's spines would be going in every direction from the rough housing they do. The cracks you hear when chiropractors re adjust the spine is the same cracks you hear when you crack a knuckle. Nothing more. That cracking sound is synovial fluid which is present in the joints and the cracking releases a gas. Eventually the gas returned to the synovial fluid and you can crack your knuckles again.
Well, actually the spine can be readjusted but it's called a spinal cord injury. And no one wants that.
Get a good massage. It's better for you and not as dangerous. |
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Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:26 pm |
Mars. I actually have RA in my hands. It's not super bad like I've seen in other people but it's in the same place my father had it, in the middle finger and the joint closest to the fingernail. My hands are a carbon copy of my dad's. It wouldn't be so bad except that I'm a seamstress and use my hands all day. Oh, the irony!
Anyway, here is what I take and I looked up double blind studies for the first two items on the list.
I've mentioned the first one already:
UC II Undenatured Type II Collagen
(Make sure it's undenatured and [i]Type II
Flexamin triple strength. It has MSM, Chondroitin Sulfate and most importantly Boswellia Serrata under the brand name Alfapin.
N Acetyl l cysteine or NAC for short. This is a
precursor to the antioxidant glutathione and has been shown to help RA.
Tumeric
Fish Oils
CoQ 10
It all helps but it would be great if science came up with a cure. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:41 am |
| Mars wrote: |
Hi, Everyone, I have RA and recently, OA, too.
I take methotrexate for my RA. I see my rheumy this Friday. What are you doing for your arthritis? I'm not overweight and I exercise regularly. Although my OA is preventing me from walking very well. My condition is worsening.  |
I had RA but don't have any syptoms from changing my diet. Eliminate all polyunsaturated fatty acids from your diet, and eat a metabolism supporting diet.
Go to Raypeat.com and read those articles; it saved my life, I know how depressing arthritis can be. Read up, it'll change your life. |
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