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Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:39 am |
I too have tried over the counter shop Homeopathic remedies but did find that the one on one private consultation was better for me.
When you are treated, the homeopath looks not only at your symptoms but also at your temperament and personal character.
I went to clear up acne but also came away with other symptoms being teated as well such as mood swings, cramps, listlessness etc, symptoms that a conventional doctor would probably dismiss as 'women's problems'.
Aslo getting the preparation right is crucial as is the dosage, the main too are 6c and 30c, however I have been given 1M, 2M dosages as well.
It does seem like a lot of money but when you add up how much is spent on skincare over the year it is not much different.
I would advise you to check around for word of mouth before you see the homeopath, several people recomended mine to me before I dicided to see him. |
_________________ oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:58 pm |
Does anyone understand the difference between homeopathic and naturopathic?
I have been considering seeing a naturopathic in my city. It is a women owned clinic that has been in business quite a while. She also has complientary other specialists there also.
While I am hoping for some results on some other long standing health issues it would be a bonus if my skin improved! |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:32 pm |
autumn wrote: |
Does anyone understand the difference between homeopathic and naturopathic?
I have been considering seeing a naturopathic in my city. It is a women owned clinic that has been in business quite a while. She also has complientary other specialists there also.
While I am hoping for some results on some other long standing health issues it would be a bonus if my skin improved! |
A homeopath is someone who is specialized in homeopathy and who has received a doctorate degree in homeopathic medicine alone. A naturopath is trained in many modalities including homeopathy and has received a doctorate degree in naturopathic medicine. While both doctors can be very knowledgeable in all scopes of medicine you'll find that homeopaths tend to recommend treatments based solely on homeopathic remedies whereas a naturopath may recommend treatment including homeopathy, nutrition, herbal remedies, acupuncture etc. It really all depends on the individual doctor so if you're trying to decide on one as opposed to the other, I would question both to see what kind of knowledge and experience each has. You'll also find that both doctors might specialize in certain specific areas like hormonal imbalances, or arthritis, fibromyalgia and muscle pains, or headaches & migraines etc etc. Try to find a doctor that has the most experience with the situation you need help with. Word of mouth and research will help you find a doctor that's the best fit. |
_________________ Global Butterfly & Certified Aromatherapist/Holisitc Therapist with a passion for travel and natural health.  |
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:29 am |
Unfortunately I have not had positive results with homeopaths and/or naturapaths.
In Toronto the treatments can be a fortune and I am still to meet someone that has had good results. After several months with each of the professionals I saw, I was sent away with: "your case is very challenging, we have tried everything we could." Interesting that after the initial consultation $150 to $200 they felt confident that was only a matter of balancing the body. I try not to think about the thousands of dollars and the hope I invested on this  |
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:37 pm |
I have cancelled my appointment with the homeopathic doctor. I'm glad it worked for you, Rosebud, but i really just don't know. Coming from a research-based undergrad major, i was taught to question everything not backed up by science. And while I have little hope for conventional medicine correcting my hormonal imbalance, it's so hard to believe that a homeopath will help. The whole philosophy of it sounds like common-sense at best, and totally ridiculous at worst. What got me really suspicious was the fact that the doctor will perform a "electrodermal" test, which measures electrical response on the surface of the skin to detect disease, toxicity and imbalances due to various types of stress. This is called the VEGA machine. Upon further research about this machine, i discovered that it is only 70% accurate in determining food sensitivities (http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/south/series2/food_sensitivity_allergy_vega_tests.shtml). While i'm desperate to balance my hormones and rid myself of hormonal chin acne, i don't think i'll see a homeopath. For $210 for the initial visit, i can't afford for it not to work. I've also documented my condition on online homeopathy websites (height, weight, gender, dreams, temperament, condition of nails, tidy or untidy, etc)...it's a very detailed questionnaire, and something i would imagine going through with a homeopath. 5 different homeopaths responded to my case, with 5 different remedies. And i thought that they were supposed to narrow it down to one CORRECT remedy to treat all the symptoms. I'm sorry but it sounds too hit or miss to me. For now I will stick to my Vitex, vitamins, minerals, good eating habits, exercise and hope for the best. |
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:35 am |
my dog has been cured of her incontinence problem with homeopathy!
it is amazing!!!! |
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:20 pm |
I'm amazed there are doctorate degrees in homeopathy.
I worked as a pharmacy technician in community pharmacy when introduced to homeopathy years ago and initially did a little reading about it. I couldn't even finish the book since it seemed so far removed from anything I'd heard of. Our pharmacy carried a few products but eventually phased them out. I've always been open to herbal remedies and eastern medicine but consistantly rejected homeopathy.
Europe always seems to be ahead with herbal remedies, aromatherapy, Bach flower remedy etc. The fact that homeopathy requires a university degree makes a difference to me. Personally I would not turn away so easily now. Hopefully there is reputable organization in Vancouver. |
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Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:17 pm |
Dollbird, I've recently started seeing a Naturopathic Doctor and she's been really great. We went over my eating habits and she recommended a list of supplements and a Brown Rice Cleanse. I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Let me know if you're interested in the Brown Rice Cleanse. It's suppose to help with weight loss and cleansing of your body.
My initial consultation cost me $150 but my Health Plan covers up to $500 per year so I'm covered.  |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:58 pm |
Yen, yeah, please do let me know how the cleanse goes for you. It is great that your health plan covers it. Mine doesn't so that is why i'm extra hesitant to go. I wouldn't think twice about it if i didn't have to pay anything...i don't think there's any harm in trying. With an endless amount of remedies, it seemed to be pretty shady on how they could just narrow it down to just one to specifically treat you, and your condition. I am, however still open to hearing about your results. Did you specifically see the homeopath for acne? |
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Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:13 pm |
dollbird wrote: |
Yen, yeah, please do let me know how the cleanse goes for you. It is great that your health plan covers it. Mine doesn't so that is why i'm extra hesitant to go. I wouldn't think twice about it if i didn't have to pay anything...i don't think there's any harm in trying. With an endless amount of remedies, it seemed to be pretty shady on how they could just narrow it down to just one to specifically treat you, and your condition. I am, however still open to hearing about your results. Did you specifically see the homeopath for acne? |
Yes, I went to the Naturopathic Doctor initially for my acne. My acne was getting better before seeing her but I figure I could always improve my body in other areas too. I'll keep you posted on the cleanse. |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:27 pm |
Here's a little update.
My skin is even smoother now. I've been getting compliments at work. Aside from the acne scarring (which I still need to work on), my skin hasn't looked this great in over a year. Also, I've lost 5 pounds. I just weighed myself. I'm probably even lighter in the morning.  |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:49 am |
I'm resurecting this thread as I'm thinking about homeopathy. I've been feeling out of whack and there's nothing technically wrong (well, of course, depends who you ask ). Anyway, my question is: If you go to a homeopath and you take something, how long, on average, would be before you saw/felt a change/improvement? Thanks in advance, guys and gals. |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:37 pm |
Agent OO-CAT wrote: |
I'm resurecting this thread as I'm thinking about homeopathy. I've been feeling out of whack and there's nothing technically wrong (well, of course, depends who you ask ). Anyway, my question is: If you go to a homeopath and you take something, how long, on average, would be before you saw/felt a change/improvement? Thanks in advance, guys and gals. |
I saw my Naturopathic Doctor twice in the first month (initial consultation and a nutrition visit). After that, I've been seeing her about once every three weeks. There's a definite change in terms of my weight, skin and the way I feel. Hope that helps.  |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:24 am |
Thanks Yen for your reply. I took the plunge and made an appointment for this week. I am feeling pretty conflicted about this... On one hand, I'd like to give it a shot and on the other, I feel that it's not real... |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:47 pm |
Agent OO-CAT wrote: |
Thanks Yen for your reply. I took the plunge and made an appointment for this week. I am feeling pretty conflicted about this... On one hand, I'd like to give it a shot and on the other, I feel that it's not real... |
I was skeptical at first too but when I started seeing results, I became a believer. Keep me posted on how everything goes.  |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:11 pm |
I have been going to a naturopath, who also has training in homeopathy, and it costs $90 an hour, plus the supplements. She mainly does muscle-testing for vitamin/mineral deficiencies. I initially went to her because I was DESPERATE to get rid of this persistent skin rash which was caused by an allergy/intolerance to strong pain killers. Then I had another short outburst (supplements overload) after the first round cleared up, but I managed to take some herbal remedies on my own and it cleared up quite fast (dandelion and milk thistle in large quantities for a liver cleanse - unexplained skin rashes can also be caused by internal, esp. liver overload)
I was rather skeptical of the whole muscle-testing thing which is the main method through which she tests for deficiencies, because she asks a question and your body 'gives' the answer - she presses down on your outstretched arm and if it 'resists' then it is a positive, and if it gives then it is a negative.
I am not sure if other people's homeopaths/naturopaths perform an iridology analysis, she did one on me and described me as having mild 'leaky gut syndrome' - also an underlying health problem persistent in many many people.
I don't think I am a big believer in homeopathic remedies - I have seen my naturopath mix them up in front of me, just very roughly measured dilutions.. I thought it had to be precise?? Many of these alternative healers also recommend big lifestyle and dietary changes, which may be one of the reasons so many people also experience a positive change in their health conditions.
But rather, I have more faith in using good quality herbs, probiotic supplements, etc in the right quantities to aid health - which my naturopath has also been prescribing me because I prefer them over the homeo-botanical solutions. |
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:57 pm |
Miranets, my ND didn't do anything that you mentioned above aside from recommending some supplements. Are you still seeing your ND? How many consultations have you had? |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:19 pm |
Hi Yen
I have slowly drained my visits to her, because I don't drive and she lives in this really far-out place that's kinda dangerous to be around in, plus it was getting expensive (like $150-$200 each visit).
I have had 3-4 consulations, at first 2 weeks apart, then longer and longer. My next one will be almost 6-8 weeks, depending on how slowly I finish my supplements.
My plan is to finish the course of supplements to help my body clear up candida, but other than that I am not that interested to take things to balance my hormones/adrenals etc because my health has improve drastically since I started taking good quality supplements on my own and I really want to let it heal itself.
One issue with going to her is that, most of the stuff she tells me about health is very "general", and she can't make any suggestions to my diet/lifestyle because it is already at a level which she feels is totally healthy. So sometimes when I sit there, I just want her to give me the meds and not give me a lecture... |
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:28 am |
Which supplements are you taking Miranets?
My appt is tomorrow.... I am terrified. I guess I don't know what to expect. The secretary told me to plan 3 hours - THREE hours! |
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:55 am |
Agent OO-CAT,
This is roughly my regular regime, which I have been sticking to for about 7-8 months, and I've been taking the protein for longer -
- Nutriway Protein powder 8g (and dietary protein supplementation about 20g) - I am still not getting enough of my RDI of about 50g, but I have seen such a huge health improvement from increasing good quality protein intake
- Nutriway B complex 3-4x daily (about 7-8mg total) or Nutriway Daily
- Nutriway Dandelion and Milk thistle 2x daily
- Mivitality Probiotic powder 2-3 tsp daily
Some recent additions into my diet:
- Cold pressed flax seed oil 1Tsp
- Silicea liquid silica 15ml
- HA capsules
- Concentrated mineral drops (in my normal drinking water)
The one-off treatments
- Bioceuticals SB Floractive, saccharomyces cerevisiae 250mg (for candida)
- Nutrimedicine digestive support 10g
It seems quite a hectic regime, but I take most powders together as a shake, and the B complex helps to boost protein utilisation in the body, so it's all taken together.
When I started boosting my vitamin and mineral intake, I stopped getting those horrific "sugar" and "carb" cravings, which can be an underlying symptom of severe vit&min deficiencies.
Also, just a week ago I was cleaning out my draws, and I found like 5 old boxes of Canestene treatments!! Yikes I just remember back about 18 months ago when I had serious ongoing thrush and had to use Canestene every few weeks, but everything sort of disappeared once I started taking the protein  |
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:26 pm |
Thanks for the info, Miranets. Your regime seems sensible to me. What's the silica for? |
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:58 pm |
Well I have some issues with my skin and hair, like dryness on my body even though my face is oily, peeling cuticles, and not to mention everytime I wash my hair LOTS of it comes out. I don't have extremely thin hair, but areas where my scalp is more exposed, especially the front "fringe" or "bangs" as you guys call it, is very thin.
It takes so long before most people can see results, so I hope I have enough patience to wait for it.. |
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:24 pm |
Miranets, my ND educated me about nutrition and what types of foods that I should avoid. She even recommended recipes. She recommended supplements, explained how to take them and their purpose. She recommended Castor Packs to improve my circulation (I've yet to try it).
I actually look forward to seeing her.
I'm currently taking the following supplements:
-HMF Forte by Genestra
-Alternate between Evening Primrose Oil by Genestra and Nordic Naturals Cod Liver Oil (depending whether or not I'm on my time of the month)
-A-Mulsion by Genestra
-B6 Complex by Thorne
-Magnesium Citrate by Thorne
-Zinc Citrate by Natural Factors
I've altered my diet to include brown rice products and eating more organic foods.
I've definitely noticed a big change with the way I look and feel. |
_________________ 34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:58 am |
Okay, so I;m back from the homeopath. He asked a million of questions and came up with the diagnosis of "liver toxicity" and recommended a detox. I said I would think about it. It seems like a pretty involved system - taking 2/3 detox shakes, detox pills and adrenal support pills. Hmmm...What do you guys think? |
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:55 pm |
Agent OO-CAT let me start by saying that I am very skeptical of homeopathy. What exactly does a homeopathic diagnosis of liver toxicity mean and what does this doctor think is causing your liver toxicity? Also can the doctor you went to cite any studies that show that the detox that he proposes is an effective treatment for this condition? |
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