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Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:40 pm |
I guess I noticed in my mid 30's,but the most dramatic change is when I became ill.
I am just determined to soften the sun damage and scarring,wrinkles.
Isnt it sad to see those who have overdone the surgery.
A smile does work wonders |
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:25 pm |
Yeah, I was never really using any makeup before until very recently, and it's been only the eyeshadows and eyeliner for me, still no lipstick and blush or brows. My eyeshadows bought at The Body Shop 6 years ago are still good, or at least I am using them anyway. :-P The reason I started using the eyeliner and shadows is because my co-worker who is always looking good and perfect from clothes, shoes, handbag, makeup, hair, the works!! was telling me that I needed to make up my eyes to help them look younger. Anyway, I followed her advice, but every once in a while like this morning, I still went to work without any makeup because I didn't have time after I showered and shampooed my hair. I literally just washed and went to work. My hair was still quite damp. |
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:29 pm |
skin care addict wrote: |
I guess I noticed in my mid 30's,but the most dramatic change is when I became ill.
I am just determined to soften the sun damage and scarring,wrinkles.
Isnt it sad to see those who have overdone the surgery.
A smile does work wonders |
It is very sad that some people overdo the surgery. A classic ex is Michael Jackson. |
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Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:14 pm |
Hmmm... I think 35 was the "dark" age for me. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:27 am |
Even I don't get wrinkle, I already felt the different at now at age 31 cos the facial fat seemed to buldge out. |
_________________ Dry Skin, Asian, 30 |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:42 am |
The first time I became concerned about aging skin is when i noticed fine lines around my eyes and nose. I'd say it all started in my late twenties 27-29. They've gotten worse since then, but I manage to find good creams and makeup to hide them. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:45 am |
I always thought I'd eventually get some type of cosmetic corrective surgery when it comes time but I don't know anymore. Has anyone seen that show "Skin Deep" where women (and men too!) have issues with themselves (whether it be their face or body) and get surgery to fix it? They show EVERYTHING - the whole operation!! It's so disturbing how rough the surgeons are - it's like you are just a piece of meat! Sometimes ignorance is bliss - going into it blind would probably be easier. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:17 am |
my fisrt sign of age is twenty. I feel I am so old. My face is not bright and firm like before. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:13 pm |
CMAYC wrote: |
I always thought I'd eventually get some type of cosmetic corrective surgery when it comes time but I don't know anymore. Has anyone seen that show "Skin Deep" where women (and men too!) have issues with themselves (whether it be their face or body) and get surgery to fix it? They show EVERYTHING - the whole operation!! It's so disturbing how rough the surgeons are - it's like you are just a piece of meat! Sometimes ignorance is bliss - going into it blind would probably be easier. |
I agree with you there. Sometimes ignorance is bliss! I don't want to watch shows about plastic surgeries because I get queasy looking at the blood. I prefer to just see the "before" and then "after" photos. lol
I have been wondering, too, at what age I'd stop worrying about lines and wrinkles. I certainly don't want to look like Priscilla Presley, who at 62 still has a very tight face, and it looks so unreal. Guys have it easy though. With their grey hair and lines on their faces, they become distinguished while women are labeled as hags. It's so unfair. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:14 pm |
nickieygirl wrote: |
my fisrt sign of age is twenty. I feel I am so old. My face is not bright and firm like before. |
Nickieygirl, are you just kidding? Twenty is young! |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:50 pm |
Believe it or not, my first sign of aging came when i was 16. Primarily i saw it in my jaw area. My jaw-line area was always firm and never sagged but my first sign of aging came when i was dumb-founded upon finding my jaw-line had become considerably droppy and sagging down. Finally coming to the conclusion that i have to take appropriate measures in inorder to age more gracefully. |
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:58 pm |
I noticed it when I was 38 |
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Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 pm |
I started noticing this year and I'm 38. I have lines under my eyes from squinting and the 11 lines between my brows are getting more noticeable. I have just started using retin A and botox for the 11 lines. |
_________________ Age 38, fair/fine/sensitive/normal skin. No bad sun damage. |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:33 am |
At about 35, but I started working mornings around that time, which make me develop serious dark circles Also I had a difficult breakup and had a miscarriage in the same year: everything added up and there I was, with my first signs of aging.
I'm 38 now. |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:48 am |
At 40 plus, I notice fine lines, age and sun spots. That's the reason I am now on Obagi Nuderm, but still on my 2nd week. |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:43 am |
I really didn't pay much attention to my skin or worry at all about aging till I hit 50. Then cancer, chemo, two nasty rounds of radiation, and whammo! it was like I'd aged ten years overnight. Luckily, my oncologist referred me to a dermatologist (and it was covered by insurance because my oncologist said it was a side effect of the cancer treatment--yay!!). My dermatologist was terrific--she is extremely knowledgeable about skincare and open-minded about new cosmetic treatments that haven't yet stood the test of time. She encouraged me to try Retin A (too irritating, boo!) and then retinaldehyde instead (it worked, hurray!), emphasized the importance of sunscreen with UVA protection(especially for someone who has already had a bout with cancer, no thanks on another preventable type!!) and strongly recommended Vitamin C serum for collagen building and hyperpigmentationb. After my other medical treatment was done, I went to her for a few more sessions, discussing stability issues with Vitamin C, the pros and cons of Matrixyl, DMAE, and copper peptides, etc. Now, unfortunately, she's leaving town to retire to Montana. I'm gonna really miss her.
So...for me it took a huge kick in the pants in the form of chemotherapy and radiation to get my attention! |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:23 pm |
Thank you for sharing your personal story, and the great info from your Derm.
Hopefully she can refer you to someone else before she moves.
Wishing you continued good health! |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:19 pm |
Bravo for you Flitcraft. Thanks for sharing your story.
I hope you can find another derm who can continue the good work for you. |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:22 pm |
flitcraft wrote: |
I really didn't pay much attention to my skin or worry at all about aging till I hit 50. Then cancer, chemo, two nasty rounds of radiation, and whammo! it was like I'd aged ten years overnight. Luckily, my oncologist referred me to a dermatologist (and it was covered by insurance because my oncologist said it was a side effect of the cancer treatment--yay!!). My dermatologist was terrific--she is extremely knowledgeable about skincare and open-minded about new cosmetic treatments that haven't yet stood the test of time. She encouraged me to try Retin A (too irritating, boo!) and then retinaldehyde instead (it worked, hurray!), emphasized the importance of sunscreen with UVA protection(especially for someone who has already had a bout with cancer, no thanks on another preventable type!!) and strongly recommended Vitamin C serum for collagen building and hyperpigmentationb. After my other medical treatment was done, I went to her for a few more sessions, discussing stability issues with Vitamin C, the pros and cons of Matrixyl, DMAE, and copper peptides, etc. Now, unfortunately, she's leaving town to retire to Montana. I'm gonna really miss her.
So...for me it took a huge kick in the pants in the form of chemotherapy and radiation to get my attention! |
Thanks for sharing your story! If you could please share what your derm. had to say about Matrixyl, DMAE and copper peptides and which Vitamin C serum did she recommend. Thanks! |
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Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:17 pm |
after 25~i found my skin will turn yellow after midnight |
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Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:46 am |
Thanks, all--I hope this helps other women going through a challenging medical time. It's been seven years nearly since my surgery and followup treatment, and I learned a lot about myself and my priorities as a result.
As far as what my dermatologist had to say about topical actives other than retinoids: she was impressed with the theoretical promise of peptides like Matrixyl and also copper peptides, a bit more skeptical but still open-minded about DMAE. What she suggested is that, if I was interested, I try a half face test for at least a month (longer would be better) to see if the product worked for me. I ended up deciding that Matrixyl type peptides seem to help me, that DMAE didn't, and I've never tried copper peptides.
As for Vitamin C, she didn't recommend any specific brand, but she did emphasize the importance that the C serum not oxidize, so that any product that was brown or yellowish was probably not good to use. I tried a couple of Vitamin C serums, and the one I've settled on is Cellularskin-rx, because it's not sticky, it's extremely stable, and it works well for me. I also liked Vivier (but it's a lot pricier). I wasn't as crazy about the PSF old formula or new formula C serums--both seem to turn before I use them up. But a forum search on Vitamin C will turn up lots of options. |
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Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:08 pm |
Nice of you to share your story, Flitcraft. All the best for you.
What I dislike now, is that mature women are "hot" these days, but they are apparently not allowed to look mature. Look at Demi Moore, Madonna, Sharon Stone etc. This puts a heavy pressure on women in their 40ies and 50ies to look younger than their age.
One positive aspect with bad results from plastic surgery is that women will stay away from it and age naturally with less invasive beauty treatments.
I am 36 years old. During the last two - three years my "angry line" between eyebrows and crowfeet and thin skin around eyes has become more visible. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:24 pm |
I agree with you, Septembergirl. It's like our cultural obsession with ultra-thinness. As I close in on the big Six Oh, I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that I could or should look the same as I did thirty years ago. I'm happy to look like a happy, healthy, radiant "me."
Oh, and I grew bangs that obscure my "11's" between my brows. Works for me, and lasts practically as long as Botox between "treatments." |
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:35 am |
31, I found i got fine line on my eyes area... |
_________________ using obagi now.. I had combination skin, oily on T zone and sensitive on cheek area.. easy to get breakout on chin and jaw line.. |
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:39 am |
bkkgirl wrote: |
CMAYC wrote: |
I always thought I'd eventually get some type of cosmetic corrective surgery when it comes time but I don't know anymore. Has anyone seen that show "Skin Deep" where women (and men too!) have issues with themselves (whether it be their face or body) and get surgery to fix it? They show EVERYTHING - the whole operation!! It's so disturbing how rough the surgeons are - it's like you are just a piece of meat! Sometimes ignorance is bliss - going into it blind would probably be easier. |
I agree with you there. Sometimes ignorance is bliss! I don't want to watch shows about plastic surgeries because I get queasy looking at the blood. I prefer to just see the "before" and then "after" photos. lol
I have been wondering, too, at what age I'd stop worrying about lines and wrinkles. I certainly don't want to look like Priscilla Presley, who at 62 still has a very tight face, and it looks so unreal. Guys have it easy though. With their grey hair and lines on their faces, they become distinguished while women are labeled as hags. It's so unfair. |
Depends who you ask! There's this woman at my gym who must be in her 70s, who has bright blonde hair, has it poofed out and wavy every day and wears black tights, ala Edie Sedgwick...pretty much everyone thinks she's fab! |
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