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free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 7:35 am

I have been doing tanaka for 1,5 months. Twice a day. My face is narrower now, so your concerns about loss of facial fat are realistic. However my face became definitely less gaunt. I have exercised my face muscles for years, and it has been helpful avoiding lines, but did nothing to eliminate 3 major problems: gauntness, NL folds, and eye circles. As for eye circles, the simple tanaka regime does not seem to be enough either. I try to press my facial bones daily in order to push them back where they belong to:D.
Maybe I am getting crazy, but the more method I try, the more I feel that although they help somehow, nothing is enough.
I read your post again, and as you never had hollows only after rigorous exercising, maybe leaving your face alone could be an option. Did you lose weight lately?

Sat May 15, 2010 7:53 am

Hi sister sweets, thanx for your imput. Yeah I've heard it mentioned with flex effectors but not with facercisers. All I can gather with facercise, is under eye hollows supposed to diminish....huh! Confused

I've just been reading info on the net again...I may stay clear of all cheek workouts (watch my lower face will sag now Crying or Very sad

) and try flexeffect lower lid massage and lower lid lift only...this aging process sucks!! Brick wall

sister sweets wrote:

The hollows under the eyes Can happen when the cheeks are raised up like you say. I know others have mentioned this with some of the FE exercises. (It's always a trade-off, isn't it!)

The lift is so important; lesser of two evils (hollows under eyes Vs Sunken cheeks Confused

.

Sat May 15, 2010 8:09 am

Oh....sorry about my typos everyone, i should use the spellchecker lol

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 8:09 am

LOL I think that FlexEffect is just more visible with its stuff because it has a forum, whereas Facercise doesn't so I really doubt you the only one who has this issue, but probably there isn't sufficient platform to speak openly about this problem.

I think the undereye area is very revealing about our healths. So with Sycamore I am in agreement that you often see many facial exercise teachers where this area is problematic, but I disagree with her statement on Deb Crowley. I think its because she really does a lot of facial exercises that her face is soo darned good (I wish I looked like that). Also don't forget she really advocates massaging the lids themselves. Hammy did you do any lid massage at all? The FlexEffect lid massage is different from the Tanaka in that I understand it doesn't remove fat.

I'm also wondering if it is a question of bone, as in the latest FlexEffect kit they do have you doing stuff to the bone, and I think thats maybe also a reason why Deb doesn't have that issue. Sycamore did you try that stuff yet?

My understanding (and this is something I experienced a few years ago) is that the eye muscles sometimes are slower to respond than the cheek (which there are three or four of) so sometimes when the cheeks puff out the eyes are lagging behind but in my case I simply had to cut back. I found with my eyes they struggled with anything more than 3 reps (and Cathy and Shawn were brilliant in working out a plan for me and I did see results very quickly as a result) so I'd get in contact with them as they helped me out big time!

I'm actually enjoying growing older though wth the 3rd edition kit, and people around me are noticing. Hubby was the first to notice my nl's lessening (and I hadn't noticed at all so when he made that comment I ran to the mirror and he was right!). I'm 60 this year and have to say I feel better than when I was 40 and even 30! Aging doesn't have to be a bad thing after all!

Hammy wrote:

Hi sister sweets, thanx for your imput. Yeah I've heard it mentioned with flex effectors but not with facercisers. All I can gather with facercise, is under eye hollows supposed to diminish....huh! Confused

I've just been reading info on the net again...I may stay clear of all cheek workouts (watch my lower face will sag now Crying or Very sad

) and try flexeffect lower lid massage and lower lid lift only...this aging process sucks!! Brick wall

sister sweets wrote:

The hollows under the eyes Can happen when the cheeks are raised up like you say. I know others have mentioned this with some of the FE exercises. (It's always a trade-off, isn't it!)

The lift is so important; lesser of two evils (hollows under eyes Vs Sunken cheeks Confused

.

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 10:10 am

TheresaMary!
I haven't bought the third edition of FE, it is pricey a bit for me, but I am considering getting it. Especially now that you mentioned the bone stuff. Is this the jolting she mentioned somewhere?
I definitely have no idea how Deb would look without all these years of exercising. I really respect her, as she is real, no works done. But the FE exercises that I incorporated into my routine did not help me too much, but that may be my personal problem. I simply do not have any muscles under my eyes. Not one in sight:(.
I saw this video with Olympia Dukakis on Youtube. She is Deb's follower. She is 42, she looks 42 and has great skin tone and also hollow eyes. Me too, I am 44, look 44, have the circles. Although I have better skin than the average, and that is due to facial exercises, so I will go on. But actually when I started all that at 36, I hoped for better results.

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 11:03 am

The third edition is I feel the best purchase I've ever made (and facial exercise programs I've made quite a few). Yep the Jolting, Bone Pressure and Cross Stretching are all great.

I know with the 2nd edition, I'm a visual learner so struggled with some exercises (and having the dvd that demo's them all realies I was doing some wrong), but the 3rd edition prevents that from happening.

I love to know what Olympia Dukakis looks like now, as that video if I'm not mistaken was done a few years ago. I wish I had started when I wsa younger, but I'm pleased that I did them when I did also.

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 5:48 pm

Isn't Olympia Dukasis an older woman in her late seventies or are there two women with the same name?

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 6:15 pm

Yes Aprile - I was thinking of the The Dukakis who was in Moonstruck. She is way older than her 40's.

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 6:17 pm

This is the Olympia.....I think that TheresaMary is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZx1PHLrz40

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 6:22 pm

Ahh....thanks for clarifying Toby!

free skin care · Sat May 15, 2010 7:15 pm

Yes! That's her - I saw that previously but never made the connection.

free skin care · Sun May 16, 2010 12:15 am

Thank You, Toby!
Yes, I meant her, not the actress, certainly. Sorry for giving the wrong name.

Sun May 16, 2010 2:13 am

Im sorry I disappeared yesterday in mid conversation; apparently I'd used my 5 posts a day limit... Confused

Thanks for your reply Sycamore...umm won't be doing Tanaka then Laughing

. Weight loss? well I lost weight last summer but gained it back...I've always been on the slender side but my weight has dropped many times before and never once showed eye hollows. I am wondering whether it may be age related subcutaneous fat loss...maybe!

Mind last summer I was using the tua viso (just that, nothing else.) I found a photo taken around 8 weeks after using it and not a hollow in sight however, my face wasn't as full with it, whereas now after facercise my lower face and cheeks are fuller, consequently I can see muscle build all around my lower eye socket (looks unpleasant) Mind the hollows spanning the whole of my lower eye socket did start to become noticable after I switiched to the tua trend in Nov....no idea why!

No TheresaMary I hadn't tried the flex effect roll n pinch massage until 2 nights ago and ouch my undereye skin feels a little sore this morning...right eye hollow looks dreadfull too. But I'm so pleased flex effect has worked for you and that you feel younger than your age..well do you Very Happy

I feel at a loss Crying or Very sad

I'm now going back onto strick Dr Perricone 3 day facelift diet...see what that does Brick wall

.

Thanks everyone
Hammy Smile

free skin care · Sun May 16, 2010 7:17 am

sister sweets wrote:

Yes! That's her - I saw that previously but never made the connection.

Yes, I had seen her too, but didn't make the connection either. Thanks Toby.

free skin care · Sun May 23, 2010 8:12 pm

Hi!
I am new here,and i have almost read the entire tread..puh.(but not all).Before i buy any of these programs;can any of them do something for a saggged neck?I mean more than a turtle neck.Exercises for the entire neck,to firm?

What are your results on this if so?

Carole`s program is sold at Amazon at a low price,it is not the newest version i think,but i will not lose much money if i check it out and see what i think.

Another thing i wonder,if you start to build your face,you need to contiune forever right?Cause what happens when you stop?It will all fall together,and you will look even worse then before?

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 3:32 am

Hi Zenia

I think with a saggy neck, you need to do things like facial exercises but you also need to maybe incorporate things like skin brushing, exfoliation and maybe things like Retin A to really tighten up the neck.

With Facercise, I think your better off doing your research. As with most people, some find it perfect others find it lacking. For me it didn't do anything for my neck. I know that with FlexEffect I neglected the neck initially and then went at it with gusto and did a lot of advanced neck exercises they recommend with weights etc and it really did tighten up my neck but I don't have a measurable time scale for you.

With the exercises, just like body exercise, you need to make it a habit. Its not so much that when you stop you look worse. Instead, I think that when you stop, the face simply reverts back to its former state just like body exercise.

Theresa

Zenia wrote:

Hi!
I am new here,and i have almost read the entire tread..puh.(but not all).Before i buy any of these programs;can any of them do something for a saggged neck?I mean more than a turtle neck.Exercises for the entire neck,to firm?

What are your results on this if so?

Carole`s program is sold at Amazon at a low price,it is not the newest version i think,but i will not lose much money if i check it out and see what i think.

Another thing i wonder,if you start to build your face,you need to contiune forever right?Cause what happens when you stop?It will all fall together,and you will look even worse then before?

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 4:12 am

Thank you TheresaMary!

It`s quite a job to orientate in all this material with face exercise Smile

I took a brief peak on Loulou`s demo,and i am worried about all the stretching of the skin...

Besides i don`t need so much focus on my cheeks(i think),but eye area and neck.

I am still worried what happens if you discontiune the program after a while.A bodybuilder would probably get a great amount of sagged skin,after the loss of muscles.. hmm

..
I am still gonna try some of this.Any suggestions on what to go for?Or should i should mix a little of this program,and a little of that?

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 5:12 am

Zena

Yes its quite a minefield out there with so many different programs.

Re stretching the skin - think of the people who tell you not to stretch the skin (and their secret agendas). They'd rather you spend all your dollars on their expensive creams/procedures. Like you, I was worried at first, but find it so relaxing. I don't do ageless any longer, but think its common mistake people make believing they only need to work one area, as the muscles all join together, so to really get the most you want to do a full program, which doesn't have to be long. I'm loving FlexEffects shorter workout which takes 12 minutes. Thats not long.

I think in the beginning its best to stick with one program for a while so you learn your face, which muscles are responsive and which ones aren't, and then tailor it to your needs. FlexEffect wins handsdown in my opinion simply because you got trainers there who can guide you and give really good advice. Ageless was like that at the start, but its become a bit of a graveyard in my opinion.

Theresa

Zenia wrote:

Thank you TheresaMary!

It`s quite a job to orientate in all this material with face exercise Smile

I took a brief peak on Loulou`s demo,and i am worried about all the stretching of the skin...

Besides i don`t need so much focus on my cheeks(i think),but eye area and neck.

I am still worried what happens if you discontiune the program after a while.A bodybuilder would probably get a great amount of sagged skin,after the loss of muscles.. hmm

..
I am still gonna try some of this.Any suggestions on what to go for?Or should i should mix a little of this program,and a little of that?

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 5:27 am

Zenia,

I agree with Theresa-Mary. Facial exercising is a commitment. You will not get a ready-made program from anyone here. It takes ages to find out what works for you, but it is not going to make you look worse. Do not worry, just get started. We have different faces, I like Ageless, because I needed cheeks badly, but other kinds of faces need different exercises. First take a look at the videos on youtube and then you get an idea what you get from each program. Reading all threads here about each program is very very helpful too.

As for neck lifts, a friend of mine had one. First she looked gorgeous, but some years later her skin became very thin and reddish. The plastic surgeon tightened her skin which became somehow different from her facial skin. Different structure and colour.

The neck can be tightened by regular exercise also. Ballet dancers do not have wrinkled necks. Because they have moved their heads around for ages.

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 6:20 am

Thank you both!
Yes,i understand its commitment.But the same with teeth :)And i don`t think about that,i just brush them and take care of them Smile

It will probably become a routine.
As long as i am not doing any damage..

I have watched youtube,and read treads.The problem is that these treads is 85 pages long,and for a newbie its overwhemling..

I have checked Eva Frasers site,and this one do look very professional.She is doing classes in Europe,that might be something within reach for me.
Very intresting with the Balett dancers Smile

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 7:32 am

I've dome Eva's stuff, in fact it was my first program, and I did it for 5 years in total. Initially it gave me some fantastic results, which I am so happy about, but then it seemed to plateau out a little.

I think FlexEffect is by far the best program I have spent money on without doubt (particualrly the latest) as not only do you get the dvd demoing everything, but the workouts are much shorter, and there are also advanced things in it that you can work up to doing. I'd recommend FlexEffect hands down over anything else.

Eva's is a good introduction, but from memory she teaches in London (I had a session with the lady once), but not sure she teaches in Europe, but someone told me she is teaching others to teach this.

Zenia wrote:

Thank you both!
Yes,i understand its commitment.But the same with teeth :)And i don`t think about that,i just brush them and take care of them Smile

It will probably become a routine.
As long as i am not doing any damage..

I have watched youtube,and read treads.The problem is that these treads is 85 pages long,and for a newbie its overwhemling..

I have checked Eva Frasers site,and this one do look very professional.She is doing classes in Europe,that might be something within reach for me.
Very intresting with the Balett dancers Smile

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 8:00 am

Thank you dear!
Very useful information that helps me in my decition!I can see that the Flexeffect contains a substansial amount of material.
How often do you exercise a week?
At Eva`s site,i heard the people in the video mention 3-4 times a week,maybe less; 2-3.That`s good news,and the ladies looked amazing. Smile

free skin care · Mon May 24, 2010 9:13 am

Well it does contain a lot of material, but like most things, especially if you start younger (I wish I had) you won't be dealing with the same stuff as us oldies. I know from my own experience in the end they said to do two exercises every day of the week (not the same two, but to switch) but in the beginning they have you work with a few. What I noticed though was initially I got a major cheek lift, then a couple of months after the cheek lift vanished. When I asked about it, I was told that maybe it was time to back off doing that exercise every day and instead do it only a couple of times a week, which I did but the cheek never floated back to where it was using that system.

With FlexEffect they tell you initially to work out 5 days of the week. I've been exercising with the new stuff for a while, and I'm short on time so I do the shorter 12 minute workout (which is 3 reps of the exercises) and then massage at night. When I do the bone/skin stuff I do that at night also after cleansing but you might not have to because your probably younger than me.

I know with Ageless Lou said she doesn't exercise as often as much as she did in the start, but I can't see the logic behind that one. I mean obviously the goal might not be to build bulk any more, but I'm not convinced that for my face doing nothing is much help. I've heard the argument that when your doing nothing your muscles repair more, but I'm skeptical about that claim.

Eva's face looks great, and she's in her 80's, but I have to say I saw her a couple of years ago in her late 70's and even then she sounds old to me. Maggio and Crowley botha re in their 60's and sound younger to me somehow. Don't know why, but think their voices sound distinctly younger.

That said though, both their hands look old to me, and I'm trying with all my might to not let my hands go that way!!!

Zenia wrote:

Thank you dear!
Very useful information that helps me in my decition!I can see that the Flexeffect contains a substansial amount of material.
How often do you exercise a week?
At Eva`s site,i heard the people in the video mention 3-4 times a week,maybe less; 2-3.That`s good news,and the ladies looked amazing. Smile

Fri May 28, 2010 4:40 am

Does anyone know how long to hold for Carole's exercises if you don't "feel the burn"? I do another program as well - a tougher one at that- so I never get that burning feeling...

TIA!

free skin care · Fri May 28, 2010 5:46 am

See this is what bugged me about facercise when I had my one to one session. She said if I had my positioning correctly then I should feel either a burn or a numbness (and she said the numbness is the burn?). One time I emailed her saying I was struggling with face widener, that one where your supposed to get a great burn in the cheeks so I emailed her to get an idea of the count and she said to do it as long as I needed to get that burn. I tried it for a minute or so and just gave up.

Whats the other program you do?

happygolucky wrote:

Does anyone know how long to hold for Carole's exercises if you don't "feel the burn"? I do another program as well - a tougher one at that- so I never get that burning feeling...

TIA!

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