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Sun May 28, 2006 6:03 pm      Reply with quote
OK, I started the Active and Hydro-cool at night and the Proheal in the morning. This is the third day and I'm already showing some redness, not all over, but spots on my cheeks and to the sides of my eyes. I never really thought that I have sensitive skin, but apparently I do. So, my question is, should I continue using every night and consider this an adjustment period or should I start using every other night? Or maybe even every second night? And would I expect to get any real results using it less frequently?
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Sun May 28, 2006 8:14 pm      Reply with quote
i believe proheal has retinol in it (correct me if i am wrong), so maybe your kin is just sensitive to retinol. When I first started my retin a treatment, I started out with using it every three days, then gradually shorten the interval. hope this helps.
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:16 pm      Reply with quote
Yes, ProHeal has retinol from what I recall. Also, the Active could be too much for your skin as well, after all it has AHAs and BHAs as well I think. I'd go with every other night and maybe use the Active first - see how that goes and then incorporate the ProHeal.
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Well, i started with the ISC-regime 5 days ago, and somehow am not sure.
According to the recommendation from the skinterra-test i have super + hydracool for a.m. and active and hydracool for the night (+ the eye-complex). I got some break-outs on my jaw-line and my whole skin is rather a bit blotchy. There is almost no redness or peeling from the active. I don't like the styckiness & the smell of the producst but i'd make sacrifices for my skin . . . Dunno, so far there is definitely no wow feeling (though the eye-complex is good).
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Mon May 29, 2006 6:49 am      Reply with quote
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I don't like the styckiness & the smell of the producst but i'd make sacrifices for my skin . . .



I think they are a bit sticky for my oily skin as well, but so far no breakouts. I guess I will back off a little and try to work up to a tolerance. I really want this to work, so I'm going to give it at least a couple of months.

Anybody have suggestions as to what to do on the "off nights"? Just cleanser and give my face a break or any other product recommendations?
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Mon May 29, 2006 8:25 am      Reply with quote
This is the same with me, Serenity : I really want this to work, so I'm definitely going to continue with the regime (I have the feeling, my problem is not the active but hydra-cool . . .).
Probably I just expected too much after all those good reviews . . .
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Mon May 29, 2006 9:24 am      Reply with quote
I really hope ISC works for me too.
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Mon May 29, 2006 9:28 am      Reply with quote
I tried the Active + hydra cool samples that EDS sent, and it was ok Smile it was too much for my sensitive skin. It didn't break me out. I just got flakey. Maybe becoz I used it with my Tretinoin routine..

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Mon May 29, 2006 9:59 am      Reply with quote
The folks at IS Clinical could hardly be more specific. They state pretty clearly that the Active Serum is not appropriate for those with sensitive skin. I suppose it depends on just how sensitive one's skin is, but even someone who has skin that is mildly sensitive would be likely to react if they combined Active Serum with Tretinoin.

Also, the stickiness would have to be coming from the HydraCool. I can say I'm crazy about the feel of it either. However, the results more than made up the fact that I don't like the consistency of the stuff....

Good luck with the routine to newbies. One word of advice though: don't overdo it with products. ISC stuff is pretty active and you can't just glop it on on top of all your other stuff. I've found it to be highly effective, but I think expecting instanteous skin repair is unrealistic. Like any topical, you have to allow it time to work.
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Mon May 29, 2006 1:44 pm      Reply with quote
Ok Smile I will try the Active Serum+hydracool only at night Smile

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Mon May 29, 2006 8:03 pm      Reply with quote
My own experience with Active Serum is that it made my face look blotchy and dry in some areas. I saw so much raves about Active Serum, so I did not want to give up. I then saw other posts about Active Serum and Firming Cream combination, so I am using the combinmation now. I do not have blotchiness and dryness now, but I don't see the WOW effect yet. I am not giving up. I will continue to use the combination for a while and hope I will see good results some time in the near future.
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Tue May 30, 2006 4:13 am      Reply with quote
Rose,

I guess blotchy is how I would describe my reaction to the Active/Proheal combo. I haven't used anything for two days and nights now and the redness is gone. I'm going to ease back into a routine of every other night and if that doesn't work I'll try skipping two days. If I continue fine tuning, I'm hopeful that I'll find a routine that works. If memory serves me, you weren't using your combo every night were you? Are you using Hydro-cool? Anyway, Good Luck with yours as well!
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:36 pm      Reply with quote
I'm quite desperate after 11 days of ISC regime (active, super, hydracool, eye complex): my skin became dry and the former lines are real wrinkles now, specially under my eyes (where the skin got saggy). the hydracool is definitely not moisturizing enough for me, so I need a proper moisturizer. First i thought about the ISC firming cream but now i'm not sure anymore whether i should go for another ISC product . . .
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lin23 wrote:
I'm quite desperate after 11 days of ISC regime (active, super, hydracool, eye complex): my skin became dry and the former lines are real wrinkles now, specially under my eyes (where the skin got saggy). the hydracool is definitely not moisturizing enough for me, so I need a proper moisturizer. First i thought about the ISC firming cream but now i'm not sure anymore whether i should go for another ISC product . . .

I was having the same problem with dryness, flaking & lines being more predominate when using active. On top of that I started getting a mottled look from enlarged pores. I just read a thread today where one of the members mentioned that moisturizing too much can be a problem. In my case that made sense of why I had gotten all the plugged pores in my driest areas. Anyway, I switched to poly-vit for the last couple of weeks, my skin isn't flakey anymore, it actually feels more resillient. I feel your pain, I've been going through quite an ordeal with my skin for the past several months. Nobody would ever suspect that I've been spending a fortune on my skin the way it has looked. I was just about to give up, then I tried a few different things & it's really starting to look better than it has for years. One product I've only used for two nights but am seeing great results is Tripeptinon. With only 2 uses my skin looks firmer & softer! You might want to check out the thread on that. BTW I have the firming complex & didn't find it moisturizing at all, although I believe some others have.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:47 am      Reply with quote
Thanks Kls, it's good to know i'm not alone . . .
Last night I put on hydracool only but no active, strangely enough today I woke up mit quite major peeling (the first time during the 10 days of isc-regime) and unfortunately with some tiny whiteheads on my chin. I guess my pores are smaller now but still the skin is blotchy, so it doesn't look nice.
I think the next days i'll use active every 3rd night only, still hoping to normalize my skin .
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:51 am      Reply with quote
You know, except for the superserum, I'd introduce one product at a time & wait a couple of days in between, esp. if you have sensitive skin. I can pile all of them & not get anything but no 2 skins are alike. When using active, apply a moisturizer without any active in it at first. Hydracool is a moisturizer but does contain some sensitizing ingredients that may affect sensitive skin-menthol for one. I've tried the moist. cream (sample from ISC & it works great for just moisturizing the top levels of skin without adding residue. You can use just the moisturizer in between until your skin adjusts.

Look my skin is as unsensitive as it gets (I can go full strength retinol & not blink) yet the first 3 days on active serum I jumped up & down like I bit into a hot pepper. I'm just trying to help because these products are great but expensive. I wouldn't want to see anyone just toss $$ away without trying some adjustments & see if they work for you.

I know EDS has samples to try first. That how I discovered polyvit serum alternate with the other products.

lin23, I don't get the under-eye problem. Are you using the ISC eye cream or something else under your eyes?
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:02 am      Reply with quote
I had to cut out the Active for the time being and then sloowwllyy reintroduce every 3 days or so. I'm alternating at night with the Kinerase cream to counteract because it is supposed to be good for sensitive skin. It just doesn't feel as WOW as the Active does. Still will be using the Proheal and Hydracool every AM though, but having to wait a few days to get back on that as my skin had a serious reaction/rash to shellfish this last weekend.Crying or Very sad
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:02 am      Reply with quote
kls- do you have dry or oily skin? I just want to see if I should try ISC and if it's possible to get similar results with some other products.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:32 am      Reply with quote
Marina, million thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
I don't want to toss away my ISC (i have the full size products, unfortunately I didn't received the requested samples with my order). Actually i'm pretty sure that at the moment I do something wrong and I have to adjust them properly. my skin is not really sensitive, just doesn't like too many cosmetics at the same time. For now, i won't combine hydracool with active or super, will use them separately. and yes, i use the ISC eye complex. it's nice after putting it on, fills up the lines and feels actually nicely moisturizing. but still, after few days of using it the wrinkles under my eyes look worse (probably i shouldn't go with the active so near to my eyes . . .).
i'll continue experimenting.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:45 pm      Reply with quote
tidieu wrote:
kls- do you have dry or oily skin? I just want to see if I should try ISC and if it's possible to get similar results with some other products.

I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but I'm not sure! Confused For the past couple of years I thought my skin was dry because it started to look crinkly, and would feel tight after cleansing. I started using moisturizers for dry skin & then it became very congested and shiny. So now I'm thinking it's either oily or combo.
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:08 pm      Reply with quote
Serenity,

I used the active serum/firming complex combo every night for 4 nigths a few weeks ago and then twice a week last week. I don't see the blotchiness, but I do not see great result either. I wanted to continue to use it and see good results. However, I noticed that my face is not as firm as before. I checked my weight. It is still the same, so lost firmness is not due to weight loss. I can not understand why my face is not as firm as a few months ago. Is it possible that all of a sudden I age rapidly? At the momoent, I just use firming complex, since I really did not see that my pigmentation is fading from active serum and in the back of my mind I was wondering if there is any cancelled effect from the combo and I am trying to get the firmness back. Does any one have any suggestions?

I also noticed that this coincides with the time when I used up my SkinCeuticals C+E serum. SC does not carry C+E any more, so I am going to use C+E+F and see if my face will become firm again.

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Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:34 pm      Reply with quote
kls- are you still using ISC? Have you seen any improvements?
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:37 pm      Reply with quote
Tidieu- Yes, I'm still using the ISC line.
I forgot to mention in my last post to you that I also have dehydrated skin. I've been drinking LOTS of water the past few months & am also taking hydraplenish. I really can see a difference on the days that I keep well-hydrated, especially the upper lip and surrounding area.
Back to the ISC: In the mornings I've been using Proheal, 02 spray, hydracool & ISC moisturizer/sunscreen. Most nights I've been using poly-vit, photolagen & tripeptinon. I just started using PSF firming toner & PSF .5 retinol 2-3 times per week. Also have been doing DHCC which is really helping to clear my pores, and also using PSF hydrating masque couple times a week.
My skin is looking a lot better, firmer too. I'm going to stick with this routine for awhile, then slowly try to reintroduce the super, active & firming complex to see if my skin likes these products now that it is getting more use to ISC.
What's your skin type & routine?
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