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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:50 am  |
Im at university and i do work very very hard ,i always have and it has paid off cause my 1st year results were very good BUT a guy on my course said to me :
"you must have an easier time of it cause ur hot"
I was like well actually i get these grades cause i work hard to which he replied: but lookin like that doesnt do u any harm in life makes it easy to get what u want!
sorry to ramble on but that kinda p'ed me off
was just wondering what everyones opinions are on the subject :
Do beautiful people really have an easier life ? |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:56 am |
| Let's be honest, yes. It's unfortunate, but it's true. Embrace it. Not that I'm saying I'm a model, but it is easier and I have used it to my advantage without knowing it a few times. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:06 pm |
| yes I no what you mean just hate that people think you do no work and can pass , like i have no brains or something lol just got me thinking ,its an interesting query and wanted peoples opinions or experiences whether its advantagous in careers and the likes to look good. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:51 pm |
| Yes, beautiful people do have it easier when it comes to certain things in life. Actually i do remember my Social Psych prof quoting a few studies that has been done on this. They show that if 2 people applied for a job with the SAME qualifications (all other variables held constant except for looks), but one was better looking, the better looking one would get the job. Studies have also shown that on average, people tend to perceive beautiful people as more trustworthy, successful, competent, sociable and happier in life. Of course ask any beautiful person out there, and this might not be true...they have their own hangups as well. But ppl still think beautiful ppl have a better life. I don't see anything wrong in using our looks to get ahead in life. Hell, in this rat race, we should be able to use anything, as long as it doesn't cross lines. You shouldn't be too bummed if people think you're at where you are because of your looks, it's such a widespread stereotype afterall, just as long as you know yourself that you're competent. Just my $0.02. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:55 pm |
thanx dollbird,
ur $0.02 r appreciated lol those studies sound interesting though  |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:12 pm |
I think that good looking people do have a head start in life - it's up to them to use it well.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:21 pm |
I think for the most part beautiful people have it a bit easier, however, because we are judged on this, sometimes our life can be made worse. Jealousy is a horrible human trait, even though we're all guilty of it at times. The difference, though, is how we handle jealousy. I'm not trying not to be a whistleblower here, but I've seen the head of an organization (female) in a meeting with all of the big whigs flat out degrade a good friend of mine for her beauty (it was basically a comment about her being moved from one position to another because her "smile could be better used elsewhere". The comment and way she said it was really degrading. Everyone was shocked and my friend took it pretty hard. I've felt this at times as well and it's horrible, but I'd rather be a beauty than a jealous hag!  |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:25 pm |
| TAMgirl99 wrote: |
| but I'd rather be a beauty than a jealous hag! |
well said TAMgirl99!!  |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:21 pm |
| TAMgirl99 wrote: |
| I think for the most part beautiful people have it a bit easier, however, because we are judged on this, sometimes our life can be made worse. Jealousy is a horrible human trait, even though we're all guilty of it at times. The difference, though, is how we handle jealousy. I'm not trying not to be a whistleblower here, but I've seen the head of an organization (female) in a meeting with all of the big whigs flat out degrade a good friend of mine for her beauty (it was basically a comment about her being moved from one position to another because her "smile could be better used elsewhere". The comment and way she said it was really degrading. Everyone was shocked and my friend took it pretty hard. I've felt this at times as well and it's horrible, but I'd rather be a beauty than a jealous hag! |
I call that the Beauty Backlash. It's a way of denying a person a promotion and makes a job a deadend one as the person is just told "don't think that you'll get by on just your looks". |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:40 pm |
| My take on it is that I know I have been hired for jobs because the man interviewing me felt that I was beautiful. I have also lost more than one female friend over it because of her insecurities. I'm not complaining about being attractive either, but sometimes I wish somebody would judge me by something else too. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:31 pm |
| Emma2006 wrote: |
I think that good looking people do have a head start in life - it's up to them to use it well.
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I totally agree! Honestly, I think Paris Hilton is beautiful (most of the time), but it's like she wastes it on being an idiot. She could have gone a different route and probably wouldn't be getting laughed at on TMZ all the time.
One fun thing about others' misconceptions about how smart you are or how hard you work based on what you look like is how stupifed they are when the "dumb sorority girl" massacres them in a debate about Objectivism or sustainable development. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:23 pm |
I think saying that 'beautiful' people have it easy is an broad assumption. In the situation in the initial post, the guy was just assuming something about Natz, which exhibits shallowness on his part. While she may be beautiful, she stated she worked for her grades so whether or not she had good looks is neither here nor there.
It's good to feel beautiful but it's wrong to 'use' it. Take Paris Hilton, for example, who I think is ugly simply because she exploits herself; vanity practically seeps out of her pores. |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:33 pm |
| From personal experiance I can say that yes you are treated diffrent when your look better, smoother skin, less weight, slightly tan. When I don't put on a little self tanner, makeup or my sparkly blue contacts people treat me less nicely, it's like I'm penalized for not putting in the extra effort. Not fair at all! |
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:43 pm |
I guess intelligence could be considered to be an attractive woman's secret weapon!
Very true, Daniel, except some women will often treat one another poorly because they perceive that the other woman is more attractive than they are. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:08 am |
of course, overall, beautiful people have a better life. unless they mess up terribly, they have certain advantages. given the choice, everyone would rather be beautiful than average or ugly.
i don't think being called beautiful should be a negative thing and if people think beautiful people get certain advantages, they are right to some extent. of course when it comes to academics, it doesn't always work that way, especially when tests are scantrons and you're in a class of 200 students or more and the professor has no idea who you are. with anonymous grading, it's even more fool proof too.
nowadays, beauty can be easily bought too--i don't think paris hilton is beautiful, i have seen her before pictures and she was but average. the paris after the transformation with a fake tan plus bleached hair and blue contacts doesn't equal beautiful to me either. sorry to go off topic, but i am no fan of paris, so sick of her 
Tosca--it seems to me most women are nicer to women who they view as more attractive. i always see a slight "kiss up" factor. like the less attractive women want to get on the attractive woman's good side or something. |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:45 am |
| Back in my university years i can tell you that the beauties had definitely lighter life if it was a male prof but the female profs made their life rather harder... |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:07 am |
| skincareaddicted wrote: |
Tosca--it seems to me most women are nicer to women who they view as more attractive. i always see a slight "kiss up" factor. like the less attractive women want to get on the attractive woman's good side or something. |
For some reason I've always experienced the opposite, due to the fact that jealousy starts playing a factor. Women are quite catty and jealousy is an ugly trait. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:56 am |
| I don't agree. Beauty attracts the eye, but not the heart. I am considered beautiful but I have been lonely for most of my youth because people assume that you are popular, vain, unavailable, cold, you name it. I much prefer to be recognized for my intelligence and other qualities, which are lasting, as opposed to beauty, which is «an accident of nature» and subjective. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:29 am |
Hmm...has anyone ever thought that it's actually being highly intelligent as well as somewhat attractive that makes one more beautiful and not just the outer shell? I don't care how pretty someone is - if they are dumb as a doorknob and/or dull they could be drop dead gorgeous by public opinion and I wouldn't look twice. I think that although an exterior attraction may get you that double take or may allow you a good first impression, it's the interior package that keeps people continuously enthralled. Ok I'll admit, I've smiled excessively and maybe batted an eyelash or 2 at times to get what I wanted but that's only because I also had the confidence to know that my intelligence and personality were able to back me up. And as for other women being jealous because you're pretty, I could care less. If someone is to insecure to be my friend or nice to me and has to be nasty because she thinks I'm better looking than her, then that's her problem. She wouldn't be someone I want in my life anyway. And if you're stuck with someone like that in for example, a professional setting, than there are ways around it. (A smart girl would figure out the ways)  Yes, it may seem like "beautiful people" get ahead of others in this world but if they lack substance, their time in the spotlight soon fades. It's the people who have more to them than looks that really do get further in life for alot longer too. Let me add the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and a very subjective thing. What is outstandingly beautiful to one may be hideously grotesque to another. Just another perspective to think about. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:27 am |
| wow thanx for all the replys , some really interesting opinions |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:04 am |
| I completely agree Wildflower! Show me a woman who is attractive with a Ph.D. Now that's impressive! |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:53 pm |
If you're beautiful and not too bright then once age takes it's hold, what's left?
I do know a very pretty woman who happens to have a PhD. Even better she also has a great personality. She seems secure enough in both her good looks as well as her personal and professional accomplishments that she wouldn't feel the need to post how difficult being beautiful is. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:55 pm |
| Just my 2 cents... In my field it's can be the opposite sometimes. I'm an electronics engineer with girly girl looks, but because of my look I often feel that my professional ability is being doubted, which is quite frustrating because I have to work so much harder to disprove that 'first impression'. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:01 pm |
| Anna_in_Sweden wrote: |
If you're beautiful and not too bright then once age takes it's hold, what's left?
I do know a very pretty woman who happens to have a PhD. Even better she also has a great personality. She seems secure enough in both her good looks as well as her personal and professional accomplishments that she wouldn't feel the need to post how difficult being beautiful is. |
anna i wasnt posting about how difficult it is to be beautiful i was merely interested in other peoples views regarding this stereotypical assumption. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:03 pm |
| Anna_in_Sweden wrote: |
| If you're beautiful and not too bright then once age takes it's hold, what's left? |
I'm still waiting for the punchline! |
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