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Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:28 pm  |
| When you try a new product I know you can go through a stage of purging. How long do you wait until you decide that it no longer purging and the product is actually just breaking you out? |
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:47 pm |
| I am sure others will disagree but I don't believe in "purging". If I try a new product and it breaks me out, it gets used on my feet or my legs. |
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:30 am |
| bushy wrote: |
| I am sure others will disagree but I don't believe in "purging". If I try a new product and it breaks me out, it gets used on my feet or my legs. |
So, what happens if your feet or legs breakout?  |
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:32 am |
| world~of~mirth wrote: |
| When you try a new product I know you can go through a stage of purging. How long do you wait until you decide that it no longer purging and the product is actually just breaking you out? |
I did break out more when I started using the Dr. Hauschka's Cleansing Cream. The difference for me with any product is when the breakouts go from bad to worse. When I used the Dr. H I found that I broke out a bit in each problem area of my face but after that my skin stayed more clear. |
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:37 am |
| Rufus wrote: |
| bushy wrote: |
| I am sure others will disagree but I don't believe in "purging". If I try a new product and it breaks me out, it gets used on my feet or my legs. |
So, what happens if your feet or legs breakout? |
It goes in the bin.  |
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:57 pm |
| I too purged with the Dr H CC but it wasn't too bad and only for a few weeks. My skin has looked great since though so it was well worth it. I think if your breakouts last longer than a month or so and are getting worse not better, than maybe the product isn't right for you. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:24 am |
| Okay, I'll try a month. Thanks. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:40 am |
| I too don't really believe in purging unless you're talking about retinoids. Generally as a gauge, cystic zits would be a reaction and not purging. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:04 am |
I think that purging will last longer if your skin is more congested, also you have to factor in TOTM breakouts. My skin was soooooo congested when I finally figured out what I need to do to it, its getting better everyday but, I think it will take at least 2 more months for me to see full results from what Im doing.
I mean think of it this way if your skin has been severly congested for years its not going to be perfect in a matter of weeks, it takes time for layers of skin to be removed so that all the gunk can surface. Its sucks but, it does get worse before it gets better. I would rather go through a ugly phase knowing that Im actually removing all that crud, instead of just supressing new breakouts.
Cysts are probably not a good sign though! |
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27~Texas~Oily~ fair~ breakout prone~ easily congested~Cysts caused by emotional stress~ Using Ayurvedic skin care and philosophy~ Dry brushing body and face~ On strict less is more routine~ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars~ Oscar Wilde |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:15 am |
| bushy wrote: |
| I am sure others will disagree but I don't believe in "purging". If I try a new product and it breaks me out, it gets used on my feet or my legs. |
Hallelujah! My sentiments exactly....well sort of 
I believe this to be true in my experience when it comes to topical products.
That being said, I did purge when I started using my clarisonic. The purging started immediately after I used the brush and it made me get like 2 cystic type pimples. To me there is an obvious difference between "purging" and "this product is not working for me" and I really can't tell you what to look for. I know for me if I see my skin is getting more oily, more blackheads, and pimples I know I'm not purging. But I think it's different for each person. I honestly feel the only "purging" I've ever done was with the clarisonic. Yes, I did "breakout" but at the same time I saw some major improvements in my skin. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:16 am |
| ~*Beru*~ wrote: |
| bushy wrote: |
| I am sure others will disagree but I don't believe in "purging". If I try a new product and it breaks me out, it gets used on my feet or my legs. |
Hallelujah! My sentiments exactly. |
Me too!!! |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:39 am |
| vonstella wrote: |
I think that purging will last longer if your skin is more congested, also you have to factor in TOTM breakouts. My skin was soooooo congested when I finally figured out what I need to do to it, its getting better everyday but, I think it will take at least 2 more months for me to see full results from what Im doing.
I mean think of it this way if your skin has been severly congested for years its not going to be perfect in a matter of weeks, it takes time for layers of skin to be removed so that all the gunk can surface. Its sucks but, it does get worse before it gets better. I would rather go through a ugly phase knowing that Im actually removing all that crud, instead of just supressing new breakouts.
Cysts are probably not a good sign though! |
Hi Vonstella. Just curious what you've found that's removing all the crud? |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:52 pm |
| If your skin is congested, the new product might make you purge. For example, little bumps on the face and develop into an acne then I consider that purging. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:08 pm |
| The problem I have with "purging" is that if you start to get breakouts, cysts etc then the pores are holding the gunk in which also increases the bacteria and thus the breakouts start. A product that suits your skin and is working, will work from day one as it will allow the pores to get rid of any buildup and it will also diminish any bacterial action. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:10 pm |
Lol I thought y'all were supposed to come to a uniform consensus for me! I just feel more confused  . |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:35 pm |
| leidon wrote: |
| vonstella wrote: |
I think that purging will last longer if your skin is more congested, also you have to factor in TOTM breakouts. My skin was soooooo congested when I finally figured out what I need to do to it, its getting better everyday but, I think it will take at least 2 more months for me to see full results from what Im doing.
I mean think of it this way if your skin has been severly congested for years its not going to be perfect in a matter of weeks, it takes time for layers of skin to be removed so that all the gunk can surface. Its sucks but, it does get worse before it gets better. I would rather go through a ugly phase knowing that Im actually removing all that crud, instead of just supressing new breakouts.
Cysts are probably not a good sign though! |
Hi Vonstella. Just curious what you've found that's removing all the crud? |
Exfol serum and face shaving! Huge difference with those and the rest of the stuff in my siggy. |
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27~Texas~Oily~ fair~ breakout prone~ easily congested~Cysts caused by emotional stress~ Using Ayurvedic skin care and philosophy~ Dry brushing body and face~ On strict less is more routine~ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars~ Oscar Wilde |
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:22 am |
| Is that the exfol serum from SkinBiology? I'm such a product junkie that I think I that somewhere. I'm going to try & dig it up. Shaving your face? Yeah...still nervous about that one. I think I read somewhere to start waxing first & then when the hair grows in thinner to start shaving. I was considering doing that, but then I read that one gal grew stubblies & that was enough to scare me away. |
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:42 pm |
| Skin does not purge itself. Its a reaction to either the change in your skin care OR the active ingredients in the new skin care you are using. Its believed that if this happens to continue your skin care or whatever you doing to your skin for 2 weeks and it will eventually subside. However, if you decide to switch off to another product......be prepared for the onslaught again. |
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:16 am |
| i think purging is quite normal if u started of with congested skin.. and i think u should give every product a month of trial before deciding if it's suitable.. cause ur change will sort of change skin every 28 days.. so if it doesn't gets better after a month then it might not be a suitable one =) |
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:07 am |
I think purging as a concept is based on a fallacy about the skin, which is that blemishes develop in lower skin layers and gradually work their way to the top layer, so that products that cause greater cell turnover or that exfoliate will more quickly expose these "deep" blemishes that were already there waiting to emerge. According to my understanding from my dermatologist, acne actually is connected to hair follicles in the skin (which is why even acne prone people never get acne on the palms of the hands or soles of the feet!) Cystic acne "develops" because the plugged follicle irritates the surrounding skin and gets infected--your skincare isn't "bringing it to the surface."
Of course, all this is complicated by hormones, which can cause TOTM or peri-menopausal breakouts, too. When those breakouts coincide with a new product introduction, it can seem like the product is causing the breakout. If you carry on with the product past the hormonal eruption, the breakout may subside, giving the impression that the product caused a temporary purging. So it's important to keep in mind that correlation isn't necessarily causation.
What can also seem like purging may be the adjustment period that someone's skin can have to a new "active" substance on the skin-- irritation, or allergy, or near-allergy to the ingredient. If it's the latter, it will likely never get better and only get worse. Sometimes reactions to "active" ingredients in skincare is a passing thing, and your skin will in time get used to it. Sadly, sometimes it never gets used to it and you have to chalk it up to a "good for some, not for me" experience. |
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Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:46 pm |
I am actually watching some realtime purging at the moment. I have has some bumps under the corner of my mouth that periodically flare up and pop, but the core never comes out.
I just started Obagi Nu-Derm/Retin A, and have already started peeling...I can see the bumps moving closer to the surface, and they just started getting painful today. Hopefully this will actually get rid of them fully this time. |
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Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:07 am |
| I'm seeing some white heads now due to the retin-a .. I suppose that's normal? If that's purging does that mean it will clear up soon? |
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Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:51 pm |
| sahmisme wrote: |
| I'm seeing some white heads now due to the retin-a .. I suppose that's normal? If that's purging does that mean it will clear up soon? |
Yes...RA brings all kinds of crap that was already under your skin up to the surface. The good news is that it keeps any future plugs from forming, so things will definitely clear up. |
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Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:28 pm |
| So would RA thin the skin overtime if used everyday? Making the skin more sensitive? |
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