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Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:45 pm      Reply with quote
I'm in that weird phase right now where I feel like my skin needs to peel.

I do an aspirin mask about 2 x per week and I use 10% mandelic acid twice a day. (Nucelle - yes, this is how often it says to use.) Other than that, sometimes I use Cetaphil cleanser for normal/oily, coconut oil, and aloe vera gel. I also use a home microbrasion once a week or so. (Well, I was, until my last pad fell off the unit. I haven't made up my mind if I am going to glue it back or just use my fingers with the cream. I was using the Vita-K one.)

I kind of feel like the mandelic acid isn't strong enough, but I don't want to buy the 15% strength until I give it a bit more time. I've had a tiny bit of flaking around the corners of my mouth and a bit of dryness on my chin. Other than that, no bad reaction to it at all.

I'm starting to get that feeling that there is a layer of dead skin coming to the surface. In the right light, I can almost see sort of a crepey look sitting on the surface. I'd rather do a peel or a scrub or something and see if I can't get that to the surface and gone instead of hanging out in limbo like I am right now.

Any comments or suggestions on if this could be helped by a peel/scrub and product recommendations?

Skin type is normal/oily with an occasional break-out, acne scars, and not sensitive to anything I have ever used on it.
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Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:41 pm      Reply with quote
Wow,you really do feel like peeling.My advice-do a microdermabrasion at a salon-if there is anything that needs to peel and come off-oh boy will it ever.I don't know why but I actually like the feeling of microderm-it's like a massage)) Laughing
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:48 am      Reply with quote
Apricot scrub will do the trick to peel some dead skin off... Try it, not expensive at any pharmacy...

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I'm in that weird phase right now where I feel like my skin needs to peel.

I do an aspirin mask about 2 x per week and I use 10% mandelic acid twice a day. (Nucelle - yes, this is how often it says to use.) Other than that, sometimes I use Cetaphil cleanser for normal/oily, coconut oil, and aloe vera gel. I also use a home microbrasion once a week or so. (Well, I was, until my last pad fell off the unit. I haven't made up my mind if I am going to glue it back or just use my fingers with the cream. I was using the Vita-K one.)

I kind of feel like the mandelic acid isn't strong enough, but I don't want to buy the 15% strength until I give it a bit more time. I've had a tiny bit of flaking around the corners of my mouth and a bit of dryness on my chin. Other than that, no bad reaction to it at all.

I'm starting to get that feeling that there is a layer of dead skin coming to the surface. In the right light, I can almost see sort of a crepey look sitting on the surface. I'd rather do a peel or a scrub or something and see if I can't get that to the surface and gone instead of hanging out in limbo like I am right now.

Any comments or suggestions on if this could be helped by a peel/scrub and product recommendations?

Skin type is normal/oily with an occasional break-out, acne scars, and not sensitive to anything I have ever used on it.
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:35 pm      Reply with quote
You definitly sound like you need something! The Neostrata line has an excellant at home micodermabrasion kit or 10% glycolic acid peel.Both are great products!
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Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:52 am      Reply with quote
NCN's Pro Pumpkin Peel is definately a peeler!
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Thanks for the suggestions.

I got a bit desperate the other night though and probably did something I shouldn't have done...

I used a pedegg. Yep, used it on my face. I figure the effect would be similar to what I've done with microdermabrasion at home kits.

The result was very nasty. Just a tiny bit of skin came off (with the pedegg you can actually see what you are removing vs. just rinsing it away with micro). The skin was darker and when I would try to clean it off the blade, it had sort of a powdery waxy feeling.

So, I did that Monday night and applied my Nucelle afterwards. A bit of burn, but nothing spectacular. Tuesday, my face was softer and I did not notice the crepey look.

Well, I repeated the process again last night. I still got off a lot of "nasties". As I was doing a final rub down of the blade with witch hazel, I decided to wipe down my face as well since witch hazel is good for minor skin irritations like scrapes. Okay, that burned! But only for about 15 seconds. Then I applied coconut oil and let that soak in. Another round of witch hazel later on, followed by the Nucelle mandelic at 10%. A bit of burning again, but not too bad.

Unfortunately, my face has some redness this morning. It's not tender though, so I can deal with it. I did decide though to skip the mandelic acid this morning. I just went with aloe vera gel as my primer/moisturizer.

So, we'll see if my decision was a good one or a bad one. Aside from the redness this morning, the aspects have been positive. I think if I repeat this again, I would treat this like a micro and perhaps do once a week, not two days in a row.
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Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am      Reply with quote
Well, I just checked my face in the mirror and the redness seems to have subsided some. (I've got makeup on top, but I could still see the redness earlier.)

I think everything is going to be just fine as long as I don't do this again for at least a week!
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Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:17 am      Reply with quote
jade-1234 wrote:
Apricot scrub will do the trick to peel some dead skin off... Try it, not expensive at any pharmacy...


no, I wouldn't use an apricot scrub on my face. Irregular seeds are more likely to tear more delicate facial skin but it's great on the rest of you, especially elbows and knees.

For a great facial microdermabrasion treatment at home, I recommend EpidermxII. Contains round conundrum crystals that won't tear facial skin but will exfoliate. I combine EpiII [physical] exfoliation with gentle chemical exfoliants [BHA, AHA]

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:31 pm      Reply with quote
Ok,so I just googled what a pedegg is... Shock...yeaaaah...I would like to know your train of thought when you decided to use that on your face Laughing
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Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:53 pm      Reply with quote
LOL! Well, I had a couple of them sitting around. (Sometimes I can be TOO resourceful!) I also knew that they were pretty gentle unless it was on a curved area. (On the commercial, it shows them using it on a balloon and it didn't pop. They repeated this test on a deal or dud thing on the news and it didn't pop either.) I figured it might just loosen up some of the dead skin on top. It seems to have worked just fine.
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:24 am      Reply with quote
I'm still in the experimental stages myself. I use an apricot scrub once a week (it is way to harsh to use daily, but i cant seem to abandon it completely); then as a mild exfoliator, I use Aveeno daily.

Are there any other daily scrubs that will leave my skin silky without damaging?
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:03 am      Reply with quote
I've never tried dermabrasion yet.
What was your result? and How long did you recuperate after the dermabrasion? How much is the cost? Should I research first before going to dermatologist???

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Wow,you really do feel like peeling.My advice-do a microdermabrasion at a salon-if there is anything that needs to peel and come off-oh boy will it ever.I don't know why but I actually like the feeling of microderm-it's like a massage)) Laughing
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:08 am      Reply with quote
I mix apricot scrub with natural Aloe Vera gel that is why it is not too harsh... My skin has never been better. BTW, I don't have enlarged pores! My skin is still in early 30's but my age is not..... I tell you, try the appricot scrub.... with the natural aloe vera gel.....

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jade-1234 wrote:
Apricot scrub will do the trick to peel some dead skin off... Try it, not expensive at any pharmacy...


no, I wouldn't use an apricot scrub on my face. Irregular seeds are more likely to tear more delicate facial skin but it's great on the rest of you, especially elbows and knees.

For a great facial microdermabrasion treatment at home, I recommend EpidermxII. Contains round conundrum crystals that won't tear facial skin but will exfoliate. I combine EpiII [physical] exfoliation with gentle chemical exfoliants [BHA, AHA][/quote]
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:49 am      Reply with quote
jade-1234 wrote:
I've never tried dermabrasion yet.
What was your result? and How long did you recuperate after the dermabrasion? How much is the cost? Should I research first before going to dermatologist???

irka wrote:
Wow,you really do feel like peeling.My advice-do a microdermabrasion at a salon-if there is anything that needs to peel and come off-oh boy will it ever.I don't know why but I actually like the feeling of microderm-it's like a massage)) Laughing


I had a bout seven sessions of microdermabrasion done.Each about 70 dollars,although you can probably find cheaper.They start of with a low setting and move up to a higher one with each session.They showed me what came off my skin after each session-it was disgusting Embarassed-the white particles that they used on my skin would be grey/black.Honestly I do wash my face and am not a pig but the skin that would come off was gross to say the least.My skin got a lot smoother and if wrinkles are a concern-it will definitely help with those.Your skin will feel a bit tight afterwards and you are not allowed to put make up on for at least 24 hours-your pores are more open and you wouldn't want to infect them with something.Using harsh chemicals on your face(aka acids) is also a bad idea-your skin will be sensitive.It took my skin about a day or two to be back to normal sensitivity-wise.As soon as I get some cash to spare I will run to get myself another treatment Very Happy
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:13 pm      Reply with quote
aa6660 wrote:

I used a pedegg. Yep, used it on my face.



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I can't stop laughing! You're so funny!

Dr. Michelle Copeland's microdermabrasion scrub works really well and you can buy it from EDS. If you follow it up with a hydrating mask that should work nicely.
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:19 pm      Reply with quote
Make sure any scrub you use contains silica microbeads ... they are perfectly round and smooth and won't tear your skin the way ground up apricot kernels will.

I'm a huge fan of the Physiodermie Bio-gommage .... it combines a gentle enzyme peel with the microbeads. It's a fantastic way to take the dead skin off gently. Unfortunately it costs a fortune and is hard to find, so if anyone knows of a similar product, I'd love to hear about it.

I have also used brushes of various kinds, including the Clarisonic, but the Physiodermie product is my favorite manual exfoliation method.
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