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Mardy Bum
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:49 am      Reply with quote
Deep lines around eyes, drooping eyelids, lines above top lip, do I have to use seperate creams for each one eg: I have read some creams work for specific areas does this mean I have to buy 3 or 4 products and which ones are most effective? Has anyone ever tried Roc before I waste my money yet again. Any advice would be appreciated. The deep lines are most concerning and am prepared to wait a couple of months for them to work. Have tried all sorts.
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:08 am      Reply with quote
Hi Mardy Bum Laughing love the name! Can tell where you're from.

I've tried ROC and found it useless. Have a look instead at reviews for Avene's Retinaldehyde range, especially Ystheal and Diacneal. Ystheal's available from bigger Boots.

Here's a couple of threads, there are others

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=18292&start=0

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=15834&start=0

p.s. that's not to say that those lines will be eliminated but they should improve
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:25 am      Reply with quote
you could try a relaxant as well, PSF and cellularskinrx (both available here and it is waaaay better getting psf from here rather than direct if you are in the UK)have agireline serums that can really help as well.

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Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:42 am      Reply with quote
Hi Mardy!

Ice Elements has a product that works well with both lines and sagging, the Edelweiss serum.

Many have reported quick visual results with continued improvement over time... For me, it took me longer to see results than most (a couple of months) but I kept with it and my trouble spots are continuing to improve... I use it 1 - 2 times a day. It can be used on the entire face, including the eye area.

The nice thing about the serum is that it can be used in conjunction with other products without interfering with the effectiveness of the other products so it can give you an added boost, if you are one that likes to use a combination of items.

Take care.
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I would agree with Bosoxy, and also want to put in a good word for Ice Elements' other serum, the anti-aging serum. After using this consistently for several weeks, my nasolabial lines (nose-to-mouth lines) are hardly visible. My crow's feet are not as deep as they were, either.
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BBD wrote:
I would agree with Bosoxy, and also want to put in a good word for Ice Elements' other serum, the anti-aging serum. After using this consistently for several weeks, my nasolabial lines (nose-to-mouth lines) are hardly visible. My crow's feet are not as deep as they were, either.


BBD, I am glad that you are having such great results!

I also love the anti-aging serum. Although the 2 serums are made to be used opposite each other (the AA serum in the am and E serum at night) I layer them, with the AA serum on top of the E serum. I started doing this because I have dry skin and find the AA serum very hydrating for me with the high percentage of Antacticine and did not want to miss out on the benefits of it.

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Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:43 am      Reply with quote
Have you tried copper peptides? Skin Bio's new GHK Super Serum has helped with my lines. I'd also recommend Candy's Firming Serum.
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:36 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for everyones advice. I live in Esperance WA and being a small place we do not have much in the way of these creams (none) so am unsure where to get any of these and have quite honestly never heard of them and am also wondering whether they are expensive? but will look throught the forums this afternoon. I was going to buy Roc this morning so biggg thank you for not wasting money again. I had a quick look also at the threads on the baby Q and they look interesting.
PS: The name Mardy Bum comes from a song by the Artic Monkeys anyone who has heard this will know this is why my husband calls me this.
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I live in Esperance WA
PS: The name Mardy Bum comes from a song by the Artic Monkeys anyone who has heard this will know this is why my husband calls me this.

Really Laughing How funny. Mardy's very northern England and bums we all know about. I got you all wrong.
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you didn't say you were opposed to facial fillers, so I'll through that out an as option. I use Restylane, it works. Very Happy

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Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:49 pm      Reply with quote
I am not sure on facial fillers as i don't know much about them, but if it were to be performed by a specialist it is too far out of my reach as i would have to travel too far. I am just sick of looking old and tired when i smile especially around my eyes.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:54 am      Reply with quote
Molly wrote:
Mardy Bum wrote:
I live in Esperance WA
PS: The name Mardy Bum comes from a song by the Artic Monkeys anyone who has heard this will know this is why my husband calls me this.

Really Laughing How funny. Mardy's very northern England and bums we all know about. I got you all wrong.


My same mistake as well!

Mardy, nearly everything topical mentioned can be bought on line, so no fear!

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Esperance has the most beautiful squeaky sand on this earth.
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Esperance has the most beautiful squeaky sand on this earth.


that's very enigmatic Emma! care to elaborate?

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We do have squeaky clean beaches. Bewdiful!@
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Emma2006 wrote:
Esperance has the most beautiful squeaky sand on this earth.


that's very enigmatic Emma! care to elaborate?


Very Happy

Before we emigrated to Australia (from England) we travelled round a lot of Australia on holiday.

Esperance is a really beautiful part of the world. I remember walking on the beaches and the sand was dazzling. It also squeaked as you put your feet down.
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I got very sensitive eyes, so hesitate to put on eye gel or cream... last winter, I found lines around my eyes, probably due to dryness, and Sofina wrinkle seraty works on me and now the lines were gone, I recommended it to my best friend who also had lines around her eyes and mouth (she is much older than me) and it works well on her, too.
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Hi happy cat
Is this cream expensive and does it work on deep lines or just fine lines? I am also looking into the other creams, the advacado oil is interesting as well but just want something that works!
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Hi Mardy Bum, it is a gel like lotion, it worked on my fine lines, but also worked for my friend who had deep lines for years, of course, it did not make all the lines gone, they were lightened. I live in HK and it cost ~HK$350 (cannot remember the exact amount) that is ~CAN$51.

PS you can also buy the C-sharp paper mask which is designed to be used together with the product, I did not use it cause I don't like paper mask, yet, this one is thick and you can feel the pressure, the combo got very good comments in asia countries.

Any further Qs, let me know!! Angel
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:54 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks everyone! So far I have Avenes, Diacneal, Ice Elements, GHK Serum, Candys Firming serum, and Sofina Wrinkle Seraty. Ohh so many choices, I will just have to choose one and let you all know how it goes. I hate making choices when they all sound like such good products. Rolling Eyes
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