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Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:51 am  |
It seems products from DIY/homemake are much cheaper than those professional research center. Besides this difference in price, is the quality of them different too? I am think it is like the food cooked by ourselves and bought from restaurants are much different in taste. Of course, there are many people good at cooking at home. But still for the same dish, it is differet from homemade and from restaurant.
So I am thinking, for the similar products containing the same elements, are those homemade not as effective as those from professional research cente? |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:50 am |
This is really a personal choice and one that you should make yourself. Many consumers choose to make the products themselves to try and save money as it is commonly believed that companies overcharge for some of the actives that their products contain.
This is only my personal opinion but I believe that many of the products have a justifiable price because of the research and testing that has been done by the company selling the product. I only ever purchase products from companies that I feel are reputable and have a history of research behind their product base.
The other consideration in home made products is the need for a preservative and most are made without preservatives and not a lot of knowledge on how long the product will remain contaminant free. There are many discussions on the forum on the pros and cons of preservatives but you can probably do more damage to your skin by using a product that has become contaminated rather than with a manufactured product which does contain a preservative and is certainly safer. |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:08 am |
If the products from DIYs and Professionals have exactly the same chemicals in exactly the same concentrations, then why would the same thing be different?
Yes, resturant food taste better then homemade ones, but question: Which is Healthier?
But I really don't agree with using cooking as an analogy to making skincare products. Most DIYers and Professionals bought already made raw ingredients and mix them together. It's like making a milk shake.
But if you're talking about professional manufacturers making cosmetic raw ingredients from raw materials ie. making seakelp extract from sea kelp or growing copper peptides or growth hormones, then we have a different story.
Usually DIYers know what they are doing and playing with before making a final product, otherwise some of us here would have burnt scar all over our face. And I'm sure most of them don't. |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:17 am |
I very much agree with Bushy : if DIY or company-made - it's everybody' own decision.
The price isn't only made out by the total of the ingredients - you have to consider that a company has to finance the overhead costs (R&D, marketing, quality control, admonistration, etc., etc.) - which a DIY doesn't have to bother with. But knowing the industry a tiny bit from inside (producing some of their packaging) I personally rely on their conditions & capabilities and pay the overhead... |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:41 am |
It seems to me that DIY formulas for serums like Vit C are often just as good as the manufactured products & they're certainly less costly.
For example, I started my Vit C use w/ Obagi which has a very good name. But even for my combo skin, I found it xtremely drying. Then I decided that I'd make my own as there are lots of formulae out there. But just as I was about to embark on that, I read about Candy's products on EDS forum.
Bought her Triple C & just love it AND, it's much less xpensive. No drying, absorbs quickly,easily & is completely effective. A hit for me. Personally, I think the prices of some of the C serums out there are totally out of whack.
So as everyone has said, there are some products that may be fine for DIY formulations, but some more complicated products may best be left to the pros.
Research, common sense and experimenting are probably the best guidelines in determining decsions. |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:22 pm |
I see DIY as the inevitable conclusion of being here too long and getting too picky and knowledgeable about products and ingredients. And everyone's skin is unique; doing DIY means you can get it exactly right for you.
That said some regular things are easily DIYable (PSF's ALA in squalene for example) others like Remergent aren't at all. I wouldn't even dream of making my own chemical SS. If they can't get it right  ,which often seems the case, I wouldn't be arrogant enough to assume I knew more than an army of better qualified and experienced people.
Also you can scrap the marketing department so you don't need silicones to give yourself the impression of improvements, nor a lot of the thickeners, emulsifiers, surfactants etc., which are only there for look and feel not for the benefit of the skin half the time.
DIYers are well aware of the need for preservatives and use them, but you can make tiny batches for a few days use and for some products that's going to mean they are more active and when you use them because you've scrapped the distribution network you don't need such high levels.
I really wish mainstream producers would treat skincare more like foodstuffs with a shorter expiry date. I can't see any need for the extremely high level of preservatives in a lot of products except for the benefit of their distribution network. |
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