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Lisaaaaa
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Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:21 pm  |
| I read some people here used glycolic acid with DermaRoller. Should I put on the glycolic acid before or after the rolling? Can anyone teach me howe to do it exactly:?: |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:55 am |
| Lisaaaaa wrote: |
| I read some people here used glycolic acid with DermaRoller. Should I put on the glycolic acid before or after the rolling? Can anyone teach me howe to do it exactly:?: |
I don't know who is using glycolic acid with Dermaroller and I don't know why/how is that they're using it.
However, I do know that you should not get glycolic acid deeper on the skin!
Glycolic acid is a strong irritant. The outermost cells of the skin are bound together by certain lipis. Glycolic acid is used to "loosen" the binding. In this way, dead cells will descamate (hence the exfoliating action). By exfoliating, your skin will be "thinner" (hence the appearance of wrinkles is lessened) and smoother.
In addition, by increasing cell turnover, you might get rid of hyperpigmentation spots.
So... for all these reasons... glycolic acid is meant to be applied to the superficial EPIDERMIS, not deeply.
If you apply glycolic acid after dermarolling, all you will do is generate a greater inflammation, which is not good because it will hinder your reparation process, which is needed for the collagen deposition.
If you apply glycolic acid before dermarolling you will be "thinnig" your skin thus the needles might penetrate a little more deeply. But again, since glycolic acid is an irritant, irritating the skin with glycolic acid + dermaroller is not a good idea since it will increase the inflammation process.
You could apply glycolic acid regularly just to increase cell turnover and help with pigmentation, uneven texture, etc.
If anyone applied glycolic acid right AFTER dermarolling and reported good results... it's not because of the glycolic acid but DESPITE it. And again, when reporting results, you should look at people who haven't dermarolled for at least 1 month since before that, they could be looking better due to inflammation.
HTH! |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:12 am |
We had someone on the forum who rolled acid in with a dermaroller and ended up with huge patches of post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation. 
I am really starting to think that they SHOULD pull dermarollers off the consumer market (preferably worldwide) to protect people from themselves. Maybe I'll report it to whatever US agency myself to help expedite that! |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:21 am |
Yes, you can use Glycolic acid before dermarolling, but it is more preferrable to use enzyme peels (example pumpkin enzyme peel) or some other less irritating acid.
That's what was recommended by Rita (ProLight) and I do it with no problems:
1. gently cleanse
2.exfoliate - use enzyme mask only for 1 minute. Rinse well.
3.Use Derma-Roller 0.5 mm (to ease discomfort rub the ice cube over the area that you are rolling)
4. Key Point: until you reach even deep red/pink color.
5. Then u are supposed to use ProLight LED light. But u can skip it and just apply whatever product you use after dermarolling.
I dont use any Vit.C or peptites or Retin_A after this procedure, only some HA or Dr. Renaud Collagen and Elastin mask or some other mask with some gentle ingredients. |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:50 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
Yes, you can use Glycolic acid before dermarolling, but it is more preferrable to use enzyme peels (example pumpkin enzyme peel) or some other less irritating acid.
That's what was recommended by Rita (ProLight) and I do it with no problems:
1. gently cleanse
2.exfoliate - use enzyme mask only for 1 minute. Rinse well.
3.Use Derma-Roller 0.5 mm (to ease discomfort rub the ice cube over the area that you are rolling)
4. Key Point: until you reach even deep red/pink color.
5. Then u are supposed to use ProLight LED light. But u can skip it and just apply whatever product you use after dermarolling.
I dont use any Vit.C or peptites or Retin_A after this procedure, only some HA or Dr. Renaud Collagen and Elastin mask or some other mask with some gentle ingredients. |
The recommendation above is applying the acid/enzyme mask, and then rinsing BEFORE rolling.
This is a VERY different scenario than applying the acid and then rolling it INTO the skin, or applying AFTER you roll. Those are the two that need to be avoided becauses they are only meant to be used on the SURFACE of the skin...not dermally. |
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