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Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:26 pm      Reply with quote
I have 2 small round white splotches on the side of my face - there's no pigment there. Does anyone know what causes this or how to treat it?
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:49 pm      Reply with quote
Hi,
There is a condition called vitiligo (it's kind of the opposite to melasma) where the cells(melanocytes) that produce melanin(pigment) stop producing melanin. (The area won't tan but the surrounding areas will which can make it more obvious). Its not contagious/infectious and is usually just a cosmetic issue although can be related to other conditions.
Check out:
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=391
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http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://health.yahoo.com/media/mayoclinic/images/image_popup/r7_vitiligo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://health.yahoo.com/topic/skinconditions/overview/article/mayoclinic/1AE4A71D-68CE-40F1-ACCC990F74F2BBB3&h=235&w=400&sz=12&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=OHVykzpg4MeTQM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvitiligo%2Bmore:for_patients%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGEUA,GEUA:2006-06,GEUA:en%26sa%3DN%26cx%3Ddisease_for_patients

Its VERY important that you where a HIGH SPF if you have vitiligo as your skin is completely unable to protect its self in those areas.
HTH's?

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:14 pm      Reply with quote
oh, lovely. This sounds pretty non-fixable. It figures I would get this.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:21 pm      Reply with quote
Don't panic Charis Smile

I think what Lucia is describing is the most extreme example. I'd call what you've got hypopigmentation and it's a result of sun damage. The inverse of hyperpigmentation which is what most of us get.

This is what remergent says about one of the results of photoaging

"Melanocytes are stimulated to make pigment (melanin) in the skin. In youth, for some, the result may be a tan. But during photoaging, the melanocytes lose their strict controls, and uneven pigmentation develops. This appears as light spots where melanocytes have stopped working or as dark brown areas, called age or sun spots, where they make too much melanin."
http://www.remergentskin.com/dnascience.php

I'm not necessarily recommending Remergent, but I would have thought a lot of skin improvers working at the cellular level could improve this such as Copper peptides or Retinoids.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:37 pm      Reply with quote
Oops sorry - didn't meant to Embarassed to freak you out! Molly is absolutely right - while technically it is all vitiligo (just like all spots are 'technically' acne to a medical person)you can indeed have a very minor type of vitiligo and the ones on the web addies are pretty extreme. My hubby has a patch on his chin about 6mm across and its hardly noticeable and has never go any bigger or appeared anywhere else. Also a guy I work with has it and he has a small patch on each side of his jaw and on his hands but its only noticeable in summer as he tans quite dark. Its actually pretty common but most people have such tiny patches sometimes they don't even notice it themselves!

So apologies if I scared you - I just couldn't find piccies of anything less scary when I was looking for pics on line!!!

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:20 pm      Reply with quote
I got a couple of completely white spots (no pigments) on my thighs. Luckily they're not big spots, and I don't know what to do with them. I pretty much just wrote them off as bad debts. (Sorry, I'm an accountant first and foremost. lol)

But I know it's much harder to ignore them when they're staring back at you in the mirror on your face. Sad Can you cover them up with a good concealer or foundation? Yeah, definitely a strong SPF SS would be good.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:14 pm      Reply with quote
Just to chime in since I had the same condition, it is definitely too much exposure to the sun. Using sunscreen consistently, mine faded in a few months.

So hopefully your problem will fade soon Laughing .

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:49 pm      Reply with quote
There is also a fungal infection called tinea versicolor which causes white patches.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tinea-versicolor/DS00635

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:17 pm      Reply with quote
Molly wrote:
Don't panic Charis Smile

I think what Lucia is describing is the most extreme example. I'd call what you've got hypopigmentation and it's a result of sun damage. The inverse of hyperpigmentation which is what most of us get.

This is what remergent says about one of the results of photoaging

"Melanocytes are stimulated to make pigment (melanin) in the skin. In youth, for some, the result may be a tan. But during photoaging, the melanocytes lose their strict controls, and uneven pigmentation develops. This appears as light spots where melanocytes have stopped working or as dark brown areas, called age or sun spots, where they make too much melanin."
http://www.remergentskin.com/dnascience.php

I'm not necessarily recommending Remergent, but I would have thought a lot of skin improvers working at the cellular level could improve this such as Copper peptides or Retinoids.


I agree with Molly. i have the same thing. It is caused by sun damage and there are some things to improve it.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:49 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for all of your feedback.
Molly, have you ever used remergent or know anyone who has? I have been using a retinoid (tazorac) so maybe it's better than it would be, but they are still there. My dermotologist when I asked was very nonresponsive, not saying what it was just "you can't do anything to treat that." That was it!!! The main way I cover it is by using a self tanner every few days, so that it is less obvious, but now I'm worried my whole face could be covered soon!!!

Lucia, don't worry about freaking me out - I am a realist (I'm an attorney) and prefer having all the facts, so I always appreciate info - so thank you for sharing.

I do wear sunscreen and will continue to, but if anyone has had success on getting rid of these, please share any info. Thank you!
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:25 pm      Reply with quote
I would suggest to see a dermatologist to make sure it is not something serious.

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:40 pm      Reply with quote
charis wrote:
Thanks for all of your feedback.
Molly, have you ever used remergent or know anyone who has? I have been using a retinoid (tazorac) so maybe it's better than it would be, but they are still there. My dermotologist when I asked was very nonresponsive, not saying what it was just "you can't do anything to treat that." That was it!!! The main way I cover it is by using a self tanner every few days, so that it is less obvious, but now I'm worried my whole face could be covered soon!!!

Lucia, don't worry about freaking me out - I am a realist (I'm an attorney) and prefer having all the facts, so I always appreciate info - so thank you for sharing.

I do wear sunscreen and will continue to, but if anyone has had success on getting rid of these, please share any info. Thank you!


Ohh, since you are already wearing sunscreen what SPF are you using? If you are already using 30+ or more broad spectrum SS, then maybe it is not related to sun exposure.

I got mine when I was young and never wore SS.

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Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:58 pm      Reply with quote
charis wrote:
Thanks for all of your feedback.
Molly, have you ever used remergent or know anyone who has?

Hi Charis, I'm afraid I've only used samples. The reason I quoted them is that they give a less dramatic reason for it - good ol' photo-aging and some promise from their products that it can be treated. There are quite a few Remergent reviews and users here - most seem pleased with the results.

Here's the most recent thread
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=21892&highlight=remergent

and here's a long-term review one
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=16358&start=0
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Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:26 am      Reply with quote
I'm sure it's sun related - because even though I wear sunscreen now, I had many years where I did'nt. I guess I'm paying for that now.

Thanks for those threads Molly - I'm going to check those out.
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