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Mixing MAP (Vit.C) with Matrixyl 3000
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:48 pm      Reply with quote
Does anyone know if I can mix Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate with Matrixyl 3000 in the same lotion/serum without adversely affecting the activity of the Matrixyl 3000?

P.S. I am already aware it is a NO-NO with L-Ascorbic Acid!
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:10 pm      Reply with quote
I have been mixing MAP with my 1,000mg ascorbic acid crystals. I got a recipe from...I don't remember. But,am I doing a bad thing?
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:43 pm      Reply with quote
skin care addict wrote:
I have been mixing MAP with my 1,000mg ascorbic acid crystals. I got a recipe from...I don't remember. But,am I doing a bad thing?
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Actually I meant mixing L-AA crystals with Matrixyl 3000 is a NO NO!

What I need to know is whether I can get my dose of Vitamin C together with Matrixyl 3000 by using MAP instead, without killing the Matrixyl.

I have been mixing MAP and L-AA for a while myself.
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:53 am      Reply with quote
Very Happy Thank you for clarifying.
I hope someone can answer your question.
Maybe Candy or Carecate could help. Very Happy
I know we have some very knowledgeable people here,hopefully you will get an answer today.
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:49 pm      Reply with quote
nyonykay,

I had no idea that there was a problem with matr 3000 and L-AA. Where did you hear/read that???

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Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:45 pm      Reply with quote
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nyonykay,

I had no idea that there was a problem with matr 3000 and L-AA. Where did you hear/read that???

TIA


According to Dr Hannah Sivak of Skin Actives, peptides need to be in a pH environment of between 6 to 8, amongst other factors, to maintain stability of function i.e. not be de-activated. L-Ascorbic Acid invariably lowers the pH wherever it is introduced. I just wonder whether MAP has the same problem.

Yes, I know the good doctor has certain quirks (I've completely stopped posting there), but given the doctorate in bio-chemistry that she holds, I have since stopped mixing L-AA with Matrixyl. After all, since MAtrixyl is a relatively expensive ingredient, I don't want to risk de-activating it.
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:30 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for the info about LAA + peptides nyonyakai, but I can't see why MAP with it's neutral PH would cause a problem. Is there something I'm missing?
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:12 pm      Reply with quote
Have you tried posting on GoW or asking Markey? She might know this. I heard a lot of people on GoW are very knowledgeable DIYers.
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