Placenta in products
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Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:00 am

Hi,

I'm just curious about your view of placenta usage in products. I've checked out some other forums and people are really shocked to hear there has been placenta in their hair/skin products.

Does the fact that the placenta comes from an animal make a different than if it were from a human? If you are irked by the idea, what aspect of it scares you? Would anything change your mind about it? If you have knowingly used products with placenta, what are your thoughts about it, and where have you been purchasing it?

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free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:11 am

sorry it just sounds disgusting and I don't know what magic it is supposed to do either but I don't want it! I hope I've not used anything with it in. Sorry there isn't a puke smilie Confused

Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:59 am

I've seen quite a few products on the shelves in Australia that advertise having sheep placenta in them. They are quite popular in Asia, or at least that's what I think since they are sold here in asian duty free stores and people that come visit from Taiwan etc seem to stock up on it.

I don't really have an opinion on it to be honest. I do think it's a bit of a disguisting concept but I'm sure that if it was super effective and showed great results then it would convince me to give it a go. Unless I see some spectacular before&after shots I just ain't going there Not talking

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free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:20 am

personally the idea of placenta in products doesn't really bother me (I live in a place where many families make a stew of the placenta after giving birth Embarassed

), but I can't see that it would actually deliver any benefits to the skin. Seems like it's just one of those bull$**t things like tiger penis making men more virile. You pay because it's rare and you expect it to have dramatic effects. I suppose it's possible that fetal tissue may deliver skin benefits, but that is just so totally immoral (irrespective of where it comes from) that even I would draw the line at that! Confused

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:52 pm

yuk. Even gullible me wouldn't want to try that

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:23 pm

its kinda off topic but i read in an article that the fluids that surround the fetus of a human are being used in skin products, because its responsible for the baby's super soft skin Confused

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:21 pm

And what about the foreskin cream and the stuff made from snell excrement? Is this all disgusting or WHAT? But like GuapaGirl or was it LoopyLori said, I'd eat worms if they told me that it would take away my wrinkles....

That's why it is so great to have the EDS board. So we can't be taken in by these ridiculous claims because of our unrelenting war against wrinkles and aging!

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Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:46 pm

Hey guys,

Thanks for the input.

I guess the whole idea of placental extracts that WOULD work in products is because it has kept a fetus alive for 9 months by providing nutrients, so why not when its out of the body? Plus, the placenta does contain stem cells, which means it can regenerate any type of cell, like the cells in your skin.

The company I work with is hitting a wall just because it is considered a "Chinese Proprietary Medicine" which leaves people skeptical. Plus, it's just too expensive to get it scientifically tested. I can see why the placenta could possibly would work, but that's not to say there wouldn't be irregularities in the placentas (or even ethical questions that could be posed).

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:46 am

Actually, I think that the ethical question is paramount as it's one thing using stem cells to treat parkinsons disease and quite another to treat wrinkles. In addition, from what I've read on the subject, extracting stem cells into a viable treatment is quite tricky and expensive, so just because placenta contains stem cells, it doesn't mean that the skin is going to benefit from having placenta applied to the face. Further, the placenta doesn't keep a baby alive for 9 months on it's own. It has a mammal on the other end and it is the mammal that keeps the baby alive by providing oxygen, and nutrients through its diet. So whilst slapping a placenta on your face may give some temporary benefit, I can't see it being any greater than slapping a steak on (and you could eat the steak after!). I think you should maybe work for a more ethical company.
Better, what is snell excrement and where can I buy it? Also, I'm sure smegma (that's what it is called bye the way!) is probably quite moisturising, but i think they'd have to mix it with rose otto as it can smell. Still that's one for me to try Laughing

cbeb...you are joking right? How are these companies getting this amniotic fluid anyway?
My God I think even I'm grossed out now :-&

Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:16 pm

Due to a connection, I was able to get a summer internship with this company (as I plan to do business in the future)... If I had a choice, I wouldn't be consider this my first. I'm just here to watch how the company is run that itself is an experience I value.

I don't really know if I buy the idea of placenta working, but it really is not my place to point out what may be wrong of the use of human placenta (while at this company). I feel that although I may not agree with the product, I can say that they are very careful and safe in their procedures (not taking miscarriaged/aborted placentas), so they're not peddling death or anything.

free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:03 am

I just read in "Don't Go to the Cosmetic's Counter Without Me" that one of the major concerns over this additive is that there is no way to tell from the ingredient listing on a product whether the protein / extract is from human or animal origin. And with concerns over Mad Cow disease, it's best avoided.

The claim about this product is that it has rejuvinating effects on the skin, such as water binding and antioxidant. It has not been proven that this product is any better than any other additive.

Food for thought!
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free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:57 pm

Colleen, I don't think that mad cow disease is an issue here as it sounds like this company are using human placental products. I think that it's a con because extacting stemm cells so they are viable is difficult and this company is just like the old snake oil salesman

Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:55 am

The products that I have seen here use sheep placenta, which might to some degree guarantee its quality.

I don't want to gross anyone out, but there are additional considerations (apart from ethical etc) when it comes to using human placenta in skincare. Yes - quality.

All placentas are not created equal - well perhaps they are equal to begin with but not at the end. Has anyone ever had the chance to compare a placenta of a non-smoking woman to one of a woman who smokes? It's totally GROSS! You can actually see black bits in it (which are actually bits of tar) Shock

Also, when you get ladies that smoke heavily you can actually smell the cigarettes on the placenta (and thus on the baby too sometimes). The placenta is also somewhat crunchy and falls apart really easily compared to that of a non-smoker. So.... ethical implications aside, no thanks! Not talking

Mabsy

Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:48 am

Well, you'd hope that the doctors that are certifying that the placentas are okay to use are ones that are careful and have some sort of level of standard.

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