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Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:28 am      Reply with quote
Hi there..

I'm wondering if anyone here uses any korean make up brand or skin care product? it seems to me that they have flawless and pinkish skin..

as i hardly see any korean brand aorund and don;t know how to read their ingredient list.. i never dare to buy any.. even if i come across one.. any thoughts?

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Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:04 am      Reply with quote
I have used makeup and nail polish from the Face Shop, they are okay for the price.

As for skin care - I quite like Skinfood, especially their rice mask. You don't get the luxurious texture of some other pricier brands, but they are just as effective, IMHO. The rice mask I mentioned, for example, works better for me than the more expensive stuff from Origins.

Skinfood has an English website maybe you can check it out.

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Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:06 am      Reply with quote
yup.. the only two brand i've heard and tried before is skinfood and The face shop as well..

but i think only the face shop ingredients is listed in english.. the skin food has them in korean..

and i heard one of my friends saying they use really bad ingredients.. so never really dare to try them on the skin.. that's interesting.. does the rice mask comes with english ingreidnet list?
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:03 am      Reply with quote
Their nice skin probably has more to do with genetics, diet and lifestyle than products.

I know most use really gentle and rich products, as many have dry skin.

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Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:13 am      Reply with quote
I think korea's skin care is OK, but nearly every line contains fragrance, if you don't like fragrance, then don't use them.

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Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:40 pm      Reply with quote
there are many famous Korean brands that have several "cult" products. One I can think of is Charmzone, they have the Control Cream product which is an oil based exfoliator, and their Skin Milk Essence is famous too.

Korean skincare is generally fragranced and has a high alcohol content but from what I have tried they are generally quite well formulated so they don't cause irritation.

As for Korean people having nice skin, that is more to do with genetics and lifetime of eating habits. I have also heard that the natural ground water is higher in mineral contents as well in certain parts of the country.
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:52 pm      Reply with quote
if i were one of them... Rolling Eyes
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:52 pm      Reply with quote
what i meant to say was, if only I was one of them...
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:45 pm      Reply with quote
yeah... i know that korea has got really high quality drinking water.. guess that's something we can never get.. unless we stay in korea.. LOL..
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:59 pm      Reply with quote
I do see many koreans have bad skin on the street. Those that u see with nice flawless skin has makeup on. Of course there're some that still has flawless skin without makeup on too.

And since plastic surgery is so common in Korea, u never know if what u see is real or not... Very Happy no offense!
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:08 am      Reply with quote
yeah.. i agree.. it's like stepping into a clinic at lunch hour and coming out with bigger eyes..
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:42 am      Reply with quote
Koreans have some of the most flawless skin on the planet! I see Koreans every day where I live. They are absolutely scrupulous about their skincare, and very importantly, they avoid the sun like the plague. They are always totally protected with giant hats and visors, etc. I even see some wearing gloves in hot weather.

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Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:09 pm      Reply with quote
The Korean skincare is really no different from any other Asian line. Yes they use some ingredients related to taditional Chinese medicine, which is probably the only thing worth mentioning, but when the products are loaded with harmful chemicals and preservatives, the value is very questionable.
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:16 pm      Reply with quote
I guess one important reason why Korean women have better skin, is that many Korean women are housewives.

In Korea, it is a tradition that women don't work, instead they only do home cleanings et al. Therefore , they can avoid the sunshine, the bad environment, the hard working, bad mood coming from everyday work. I guess if anyone can stay at home do jobs without any boss, and can rest or go to bed according to their demands, then they will stay radiant.

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Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:33 pm      Reply with quote
Additionally, koreans tend to be more obsessed with vanity than other nationalities might be, and as another member commented, plastic surgery is so ridiculously common that it isn't even considered a big deal...akin to getting a manicure Rolling Eyes

The traditional korean diet is pretty healthy overall as well...
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:24 am      Reply with quote
quote="januarui"][i]I guess one important reason why Korean women have better skin, is that many Korean women are housewives.

In Korea, it is a tradition that women don't work, instead they only do home cleanings et al. Therefore , they can avoid the sunshine, the bad environment, the hard working, bad mood coming from everyday work. I guess if anyone can stay at home do jobs without any boss, and can rest or go to bed according to their demands, then they will stay radiant[/i].[/quote]


Januarui, at the expense of sounding rude, that is one of the most ignorant remark I've ever heard! So according to your perception, housewives don't have any stress or worries, have no demands on their time and have little responsibilities that take its toll on their bodies and looks?

I think most females would agree that house work and household management are the most undervalued labour of all time. I think most housewives are multitaskers- they juggle unpaid work in child rearing (the biggest responsbility and stress in any adults' lives), household budgeting and accounting, cleaning and maintenance, dealing with tradesmen, providing food on the table and the list goes on and on which a fair amount of those tasks also involve leaving the house and out into the sun. There's a reason why cleaning services charge upwards of $50 p/hr because it's very hard work!

I don't know how many Korean women you know but most Korean females I know (who are also housewives by night)work.

Yes, in the 60s, 70s and to an extent in the 80s, there was social pressure for women to stop working or forgo work in order to become a full time "unpaid" household employee. But that's become less relevant and uneconomical as economics, social acceptance and personal reasons are driving women out into the workforce.

Also I have friends who have chosen to become full time housewives after giving birth and your remark (which paints an idyllic and very lazy picture) of housewives is just plain insulting. I admire these women who have given up a part of their lives to be with their kids. My mom was a full time housewife and she was always the last one to feed and last one to bed. Bringing up a child and managing a household aren't a piece of cake and it's a 24hr, 7 days a week job.

Back to the topic at hand, why do a lot of Korean women have good skin? 1)Genetics, there's more melanin in the cells so they age less quickly; 2)most of them seems to stay out of the sun (depending on the individual's attitude to freckles, sunspots and/or tan); 3)they are taught early on to care for their skin as regular trips to the bathhouses will attest; 4)diet-there seems to be a lot of vegetable and seaweed based condiments.
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Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:01 am      Reply with quote
LizaA wrote:
I think most females would agree that house work and household management are the most undervalued labour of all time. I think most housewives are multitaskers- they juggle unpaid work in child rearing (the biggest responsbility and stress in any adults' lives), household budgeting and accounting, cleaning and maintenance, dealing with tradesmen, providing food on the table and the list goes on and on which a fair amount of those tasks

I've been a housewife most of my life Rolling Eyes but I think that januarui meant that working women have the same responsibilities (if they have families and children) plus they must work a whole day. Aren't they multitaskers? So, I agree that working women have more stressful life then housewives..
As for Korean women, many of them use very heavy make-up. The best thing that they do to their skin is that they stay away from sun. They wear special hats while walking, gloves and often use towels and handkerchieves to protect their faces from sun. Personally, I didn't love Korean brands like Face shop or Skin food, but my friend loves such brands as The history of Whoo and Sulwasoo (both very expensive). Their products contain a lot of natural ingredients (Ginseng etc).
Also, Korean love to visit skin clinics (they are everywhere in Korea), they do a lot of procedures (lasers, peelings and so on), massage is not expensive as well.

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Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:46 am      Reply with quote
miranets wrote:
there are many famous Korean brands that have several "cult" products. One I can think of is Charmzone, they have the Control Cream product which is an oil based exfoliator, and their Skin Milk Essence is famous too.

Korean skincare is generally fragranced and has a high alcohol content but from what I have tried they are generally quite well formulated so they don't cause irritation.

As for Korean people having nice skin, that is more to do with genetics and lifetime of eating habits. I have also heard that the natural ground water is higher in mineral contents as well in certain parts of the country.

I agree that there's genetics and lifestyle is similar to japanese, so Korean & Japanese women have beautiful skin.
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Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:46 am      Reply with quote
Mau, I agree life is stressful and hard for working moms but I think it's just as tough and physically exhausting for full time moms as well, especially new mums.

I took a month off to help look after my niece when my sister had infection after birth and I can tell you I'd take the stress in the office any day! I don't think I've ever appreciated my mom or valued what she did within the household more than I ever did after taking on that experience! Laughing

We pay homage to the "Power Women" image and we don't show the same mutual respect for full time housewives. People with money have housekeepers for a reason because it's a job that is physically taxing, minimum stimulation and with little or no rewards. I guess I inferred Januarui didn't take that into consideration in her statement about housewives.

Sorry guys for going off topic! Smile
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Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:05 pm      Reply with quote
LizaA wrote:
Mau, I agree life is stressful and hard for working moms but I think it's just as tough and physically exhausting for full time moms as well, especially new mums.

I took a month off to help look after my niece when my sister had infection after birth and I can tell you I'd take the stress in the office any day! I don't think I've ever appreciated my mom or valued what she did within the household more than I ever did after taking on that experience! Laughing

We pay homage to the "Power Women" image and we don't show the same mutual respect for full time housewives. People with money have housekeepers for a reason because it's a job that is physically taxing, minimum stimulation and with little or no rewards. I guess I inferred Januarui didn't take that into consideration in her statement about housewives.

Sorry guys for going off topic! Smile


Hi, if I said something wrong, I will apologize.

I do agree that women have been forced by the different cultures to take more responsiblities on housework.

However, in my original sentences, what I meant is that compared to those women who work during the day and take care of children during the nigh, Korean women are definitly in a better situation. I have met two moms who are finishing their graduate student work. God knows how tired they are!!

I can understand that you have just taken care of your niece, but be conscious that many women need to take care of both common job and housework!

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Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:08 pm      Reply with quote
Well, another point is that many korean housewives I know aren't nearly as active as other housewives I know. Many have help at home, and grandparents help with much of the caregiving. Many do not take an active role in the family finances so that's one major stress lifted.

But lifestyle does play a great role imho. When i eat my western diet, my body feels more sluggish and my skin isn't as good.
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Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:40 pm      Reply with quote
I am Asian, though not Korean but I can tell you that I can't find any Korean skin products in the U.S. either. As far as how Koreans seem to have better skin, well I can tell you its mostly from their good eating habits, they eat very little meant and lots of veggies and rice, etc.and they drink tea and water without the sweentens or sugars.
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:09 am      Reply with quote
I don't like them,cause it's too cheap in Korea
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Januarui, I am conscious of working moms and it is something I also raised, my point is that housework is a valid contributory labour and I don't think one can measure who has it harder since family dynamics and labour demands vary.

Perhaps your point about housewives would have been clearer if you had clarified in your statement that it's in comparison to working moms.

I think most of us would agree that it is abit much to claim that single working gals have it harder than full time housewives with kids or working moms when a person only has to look after oneself only. That's how I interpreted your post. I apologise if you feel that I singled you out- by way of explanation, from my end, your post was easy to misunderstand.

This is a subject matter that I am quite passionate about- that respect should be shown for all female roles, whatever role/s each of us chooses. Smile

Again, apologies to everyone on this thread for digressing off topic. This will be my last post on this thread regarding this subject matter. Smile
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:58 am      Reply with quote
Sorry to hijack the thread, but just wondering does anyone know which brand of makeup they use on korean stars because most of their makeup look so natural?! Razz
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