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Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:33 pm |
Anyone using this in any form? I read some interesting stuff on beta glucans recently and I have to say I am intrigued as well as confused! |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:02 pm |
Some of the members of another former are using liquid oat beta-glucan as a topical and are raving about it.
I looked it up because I had never heard of it being used that way. I was actually surprised to find that it is an active ingredient in alot of skincare products.
Liquid oat beta-glucan as a nutritional supplement (and also, obviously in capsules) has been around for quite some time. But, Ceapro now markets something they call Drago B-glucans which is a topical active for skin and haircare.
I really would be interested if anyone knows more about its use as a topical. |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:06 pm |
OK, girls, please elaborate ... WHAT is this stuff supposed to do for us? How does it work (if you know), how do you use it, etc. Now I'm intrigued as well!
Katee should be able to explain this ... she knows about almost everything! |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:40 pm |
MermaidGirl,
I havent read through all of this but here are a few things I did find about it, Im having a hard time finding anything related to skin care, will keep looking.
http://www.puritan.com/vf/healthnotes/HN_live/Supp/Beta_Glucan.htm
http://www.cancure.org/beta_glucan.htm |
_________________ 27~Texas~Oily~ fair~ breakout prone~ easily congested~Cysts caused by emotional stress~ Using Ayurvedic skin care and philosophy~ Dry brushing body and face~ On strict less is more routine~ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars~ Oscar Wilde |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:41 pm |
Thank you Vonstella! You ROCK! |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:57 pm |
Welllllll....
I first came across the discussion on the Skin Interactive board, which I think is a board that was set up by a group that broke from the skinactives crowd.
Some of the stuff they discuss is very interesting. I'm not always certain about the validity of some of their theories, but several of the members are very knowledgeable.
Here's one of the threads that goes into the beta-glucans....
http://skininteractive.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1167132925 |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:58 pm |
This is where I first heard of it, on a skin care site called Skin Interactive:
http://skininteractive.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1167132925
I love that board also, so knowledgeable, but i admit i am so overwhelmed with information about beta glucans.
katee--i think i read on SI that some of the members bought liquid beta glucan to use topically. it seems like the powder form is easy to obtain enough from garden of wisdom or the bulk actives site but i have no idea how to make it into a useable liquid/serum! |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:00 pm |
looks like we were thinking the same thing |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:49 pm |
If any of you have any independent research on oat BG's, I'd be very interested. I use the yeast Beta Glucans because that's the only research I've found. Since it's for the immune system, I can see where it would help tremendously with skin allergies and rosacea. But, I haven't found anything to support anti-age, etc.
Thanks in advance.
Ari |
_________________ Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "Oh Crap, She's up!" Unknown |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:26 pm |
Ari,
Do a google on Brennen Medical, Inc. They are supposedly world reknowned in oat beta glucan technology. |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:12 pm |
Janna,
I believe their area of expertise is on the nutritional value of beta-glucans. There's no shortage of info on that. I know that I, for one, wasn't aware of the fact that had value as a topical active. I was somewhat surprised to find that they were already an ingredient in some of the products I've used. |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:18 pm |
Hi, Janna, and thank you. Brennen Medical's use of oat beta glucan is in the area of burn and tissue injury repair. They seem to have a success in the application of oat beta glucans to sterile dressings and other treatment coverings.
I was looking more for independent research, i.e. American or British Journal of Medicine, scientific studies, that sort of thing. Everything I've found is addressing yeast Beta Glucans.
I do appreciate the help.
Ari |
_________________ Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "Oh Crap, She's up!" Unknown |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:55 pm |
I was one of the lucky few who got in on this deal -
What does it exactly do? Uhh, not sure I've read SO much info on it it's all over the place for me now. I'm hoping to sit down with some research papers I've d/l'd & printed to sit and read to really understand it.
That being said - I am using this BG straight and it makes my skin smoother than a babies butt! I'm also noticing a more 'even' tone (but that might be due to the Triple C or BOTH!)
MermaidGirl wrote: |
OK, girls, please elaborate ... WHAT is this stuff supposed to do for us? How does it work (if you know), how do you use it, etc. Now I'm intrigued as well!
Katee should be able to explain this ... she knows about almost everything! |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:10 pm |
I've been using the yeast BGs for almost a year and they make my skin "soft as a baby's butt", too. The fact that my skin is getting more even-toned I'm attributing to the Triple C, since it's only since I've started using it that I see more even tone to my complexion.
Ari |
_________________ Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "Oh Crap, She's up!" Unknown |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:26 pm |
candy and arielle--are you ladies using the liquid oat beta glucan or mixing the powder form (either reishi or yeast form) and applying it to your face? |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:31 pm |
I'm using the yeast Beta Glucan and putting it in my DIY skin nutrition lotion.
Ari |
_________________ Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "Oh Crap, She's up!" Unknown |
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:16 pm |
I'm using the liquid Oat Beta Gluten.
skincareaddicted wrote: |
candy and arielle--are you ladies using the liquid oat beta glucan or mixing the powder form (either reishi or yeast form) and applying it to your face? |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:05 am |
Candy8865 wrote: |
I'm using the liquid Oat Beta Gluten.
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Hi, I'm REALLY interesting in trying this out - would you know where we can buy the liquid oat beta glucans? |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:16 am |
As I understand it the person who arranged the original purchase stated it was kinda tough to come by and minimum purchase was something like 10k - it was a long ardous process I recall for the purchaser and it took us nearly 4 months to get the product.
ETA - I'm generous, but in this instance gonna be selfish, lol - I only have a 1/2 liter and wanna use it for as long as I can.
maiea wrote: |
Candy8865 wrote: |
I'm using the liquid Oat Beta Gluten.
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Hi, I'm REALLY interesting in trying this out - would you know where we can buy the liquid oat beta glucans? |
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_________________ Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~ Voltaire www.Candessence.com |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:52 am |
I am not sure if this is the same thing but I had read some interesting info on Dr Renaud products and some contain B-glucans. EDS sells this line abd the prices appear quite reasonable. I can't find a lot of info on the ingredients but the B-glucans did interest me and I note that this is included in the Vit C product. |
_________________ Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:33 am |
Candy8865 wrote: |
As I understand it the person who arranged the original purchase stated it was kinda tough to come by and minimum purchase was something like 10k - it was a long ardous process I recall for the purchaser and it took us nearly 4 months to get the product.
ETA - I'm generous, but in this instance gonna be selfish, lol - I only have a 1/2 liter and wanna use it for as long as I can. |
okay, Candy, then get lots more and make us up a potion with it, so we can all use it, too!!!
thanks!
--avalange |
_________________ http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:13 am |
Candy, I let the opportunity pass me by. Naturally I am kicking myself now.
Did you get any of Jim's kelp? |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:33 am |
I have that too....
Janna wrote: |
Did you get any of Jim's kelp? |
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_________________ Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~ Voltaire www.Candessence.com |
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:40 am |
Candy,
how are using it?
Adding to the serums?
Also, in one of the posts you mentioned that you areusing an excellent eye cream with ALA ( I assume your own). Do you have it for sale or is there a DIY recipe?
TIA,
Lucy. |
_________________ Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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