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Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:44 pm  |
I was talking to my coworker and she said that she bought this soap and cream that is supposed to help with acne and other skin problems....but the main ingredient is snail mucin. I said are you kidding me. So I looked it up to see if it really existed and I found 1 site that actually sells it but she didn't buy it from here. I think in Chile this is a common thing to use.
http://www.bioskincare.com/
I know her daughter has had acne problems all her life just like me and has tried numerous products and medications. So her daughter had a major breakout and decided to use what her mom got her. She said that it actually helped her daughter's skin. I told her to keep me updated about this product because I've never heard of this.
Has anyone heard of this before? |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:29 pm |
Never heard of it before. Sounds gross though. I guess you'd just have to keep it out of your mind that snail mucous is on your FACE! The list they have of what this stuff allegedly treats is quite long - as if its the cure for everything. I find that hard to believe.
But, if you try it, please let us know how it works!  |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:54 pm |
My sister told me about this a while ago - she lives in France.
She sent me a link - it had snails crawling all over the TV screen.
She told me that I might laugh now but will probably try it as I try most things in skincare - she is very cheeky.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:07 pm |
| MermaidGirl wrote: |
Never heard of it before. Sounds gross though. I guess you'd just have to keep it out of your mind that snail mucous is on your FACE! The list they have of what this stuff allegedly treats is quite long - as if its the cure for everything. I find that hard to believe.
But, if you try it, please let us know how it works! |
I guess in other countries they use this because when my coworker typed the name of the product in spanish in yahoo, alot of sites came up. She also told me that people in mexico, probably the older generation, drinks their own urine (when you barely wakeup and about to go, not the urine later in the day). Supposedly it helps with your skin and other conditions. Or use that fresh urine and apply it to your pimple. She's tried that and said it actually works. I almost spit out the water I was drinking when she told me.
I'll have to ask around and get more feedback about this. The thought of snail mucin..ugh. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:09 pm |
| Emma2006 wrote: |
My sister told me about this a while ago - she lives in France.
She sent me a link - it had snails crawling all over the TV screen.
She told me that I might laugh now but will probably try it as I try most things in skincare - she is very cheeky.
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So it is true than, has your sister ever used it? Does it actually work?
How come we've never heard of it. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:36 pm |
| I've seen versions on eBay, and was tempted to try it of course. I am sure if you search there you will find the suppliers. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:51 pm |
I just read some positive and negative reviews at acne forums or rating sites. Most said it's done wonders for their skin. The one that comes up alot is Elicina which I think is made from Chile. The Bioskincare is from here. I'm still thinking if I'm game enough to try it.
I'll probably check out the place my coworker got it and see the ingredients. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:00 pm |
I think snail mucin is very high in allantoin, which is a common synthetic additive in many products for its "calming" properties, but in its natural form it may be the main active in mucin that has all these healing properties.
Elicina is rather cheap on Ebay but I just hope the product isn't tainted with tons of synthetic emulsifiers which will end up clogging the skin. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:05 pm |
| qisme615 wrote: |
I guess in other countries they use this because when my coworker typed the name of the product in spanish in yahoo, alot of sites came up. She also told me that people in mexico, probably the older generation, drinks their own urine (when you barely wakeup and about to go, not the urine later in the day). Supposedly it helps with your skin and other conditions. Or use that fresh urine and apply it to your pimple. She's tried that and said it actually works. I almost spit out the water I was drinking when she told me.
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I would not go that far for my skin. I have my limits. Urine, gross, gross!!! |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:27 pm |
| miranets wrote: |
| I think snail mucin is very high in allantoin, which is a common synthetic additive in many products for its "calming" properties, but in its natural form it may be the main active in mucin that has all these healing properties. ... |
One of my friends that worked for Christian Dior skincare told me that allantoin came from maggots. I was too horrified to believe her and still am not sure if that's true. However, if snail mucin has allantoin, maybe there's even more valuable things about the slimey creatures we share our world with! |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:48 pm |
| qisme615 wrote: |
So it is true than, has your sister ever used it? Does it actually work?
How come we've never heard of it. |
It is true.
She hasn't used it. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:55 pm |
This is the cream from Bioskincare:
• Helix Aspersa Müller Concentrate.
Gathered pure, homogenized and stabilized.
Also embedded in a liposome for a better absorption deep within the skin.
Helix Aspersa Müller Concentrate is gathered from live snails. It is their mucin, a complex compound of powerful biological molecular structures: proteoglycans, glycosaminoglycans, glycoprotein enzymes, copper peptides & antimocrobial peptides.
Other Ingredients
• Peg-4 Olivate (emulsifier derived from Olive Oil)
• Sorbitan Olivate from Olive Oil
• Squalane from Olive Oil
• Hyaluronic Acid
• Glycerin
• Distilled Water
• Phenoxyethanol
• Ethylhexylglycerin
Our way of gathering the precious substance is a completely different technology than that described in the two existing patents of invention granted for methods to gather snail secretions, one in 1995 in Chile, and another in the US in 1996. Our method allows us to collect the snail's substance PURE as they are being produced copiously by the snails and undiluted in water to avoid degrading by hydrolysis of the precious substance.
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This is the popular brand Elicina.
Ingredients:
Allatoin, Proteins & vitamins, Collagen & elastics, Gylcolic acids, mineral oil, propyleneglicol, stearic acid, cetil alcohol, sodium laurisulphate, diazonidinil urea, methylparaben, poplyparaben, triethanolamine |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:33 am |
Elcina is excellent, In the past I have used it for a scar on my eyebrow. The customer service I got from the Chilean company was also very good. The cream itself is light and pleasant smelling.
HTH
Ricky |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:30 am |
 I've tried Elicina. A few years back (way before I joined this forum) I was desperate to find an alternative treatment for my acne and scars. My desperation resulted in my purchase of this product. Now, given the option I would decline to buy it. I don't mean to offend anyone in saying this, but the thought that I tried slathering snail mucin on my skin totally grosses me out now! (One of those times where I say: WHAT was I thinking?) I of course have become more particular about avoiding the use of products that contain animal derived ingredients (such as lanolin); I prefer to stick with natural, plant based ingredients. Using Elicina was also before I started really learning about inactive ingredients (mineral oil... diazonidinil urea... I totally avoid ingredients like this now).
Despite the amazing claims of the active ingredient, I saw no improvement in my skin ( ). In fact, my skin got worse. Most likely the inactive ingredients (such as mineral oil) but who knows, perhaps I reacted a little bit the the snail stuff. |
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early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:54 am |
| I had previously thought allantoin came from the comfrey root. |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:26 am |
According to the CTFA dictionary, the ingredient "source" for allantoin is listed as "synthetic". This means it is neither animal nor botanically produced, but instead is created synthetically in a lab.
I also was not able to find a listed INCI name for the snail mucus which bothers me. Perhaps it is listed under another INCI name? In any event, if I can't find something in the INCI dictionary of approved for use cosmetic materials, I don't ever consider using it.
John |
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President and Chief Formulator for "Never Over The Hill Cosmetics" |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:38 am |
| John C. Hill wrote: |
According to the CTFA dictionary, the ingredient "source" for allantoin is listed as "synthetic". This means it is neither animal nor botanically produced, but instead is created synthetically in a lab.
I also was not able to find a listed INCI name for the snail mucus which bothers me. Perhaps it is listed under another INCI name? In any event, if I can't find something in the INCI dictionary of approved for use cosmetic materials, I don't ever consider using it.
John |
I know wikipedia probably isn't the best source, but it says that "Allantoin is present in botanical extracts of the comfrey plant"
Also, the allantoin at GOW says it is from a plant source. |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 am |
Although it is probably true that allantoin can be found in plant sources, what they normally don't tell you is the COST of acquiring the allantoin from the plant material (grow, cultivate, harvest, extract, distill...etc.) is HUGE, and usually creates a very high priced raw material which few if any companies will buy. On the other hand, making it synthetically in the lab is usually low priced....and believe me, companies GO FOR LOW PRICED ingredients EVERY TIME.
So, chances are really, really good that the allantoin in most products (unless they are something like $300 and ounce) is usually synthetic.
John |
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President and Chief Formulator for "Never Over The Hill Cosmetics" |
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:08 pm |
sounds almost as bad as the idea of using chicken poop as a lip balm...guaranteed never to lick your lips!!!!
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oily tzone;fair; mild roseacea;PCOS symptoms-hirsutism,occasional cystic acne. Mid 30's-light-med brown hair, light brown eyes |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:10 am |
Great info., John.
Amazing how deceptive they can be. They really keep you on your toes...worse than kids |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:04 pm |
| Hey! It could work! I've used Nightingale Droppings from Japan for skin lightening for a while now(gross, I know). They are supposedly sterilized, but they do smell kinda gamey at first. They contain certain enzymes that give you that pearly geisha-like glow - really! it works! Different cultures, I guess! |
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:17 pm |
| rickyhpierre wrote: |
Elcina is excellent, In the past I have used it for a scar on my eyebrow. The customer service I got from the Chilean company was also very good. The cream itself is light and pleasant smelling.
HTH
Ricky |
Hi Ricky. Did it have any effect on the scar on your eyebrow? |
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:30 pm |
| It won't surprise some of you to hear that I've used the snail mucus (Elicina). It's fine but no miracle - just like a nice mild buffered glycolic cream is all. |
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Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:11 am |
| I've used Elicina after I read that it also works on rosacea. Maybe I have an overly sensitive skin, but I had a slight stinging/burning sensation, which good for my rosacea at all, when I used the cream. On the other hand, when I left a large portion od the cream on wrinkles or rough areas in my skin, overnight, when I woke up the next morning that area was very smooth. That result though wasn't long-lasting, but with repitive use (over many months) who knows? I'd recommend it for people with normal skintypes, but not for rosaceans. |
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Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:25 am |
When I had the acne that seemed to plague my perimenopausal late 40's, I did in desperation order this product. It was very disappointing as there was no improvement in my situation at that time.  |
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