Beautiful skin with health supplements?
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free skin care · Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:01 pm

I'm just wondering if any of u try or heard about their products. If they're effective or not. It sounds so tempting and good to be true. I guess these kinda health products work for some but not all. What do u all think? Smile

http://www.genuinehealth.com/english/wn/products.php

free skin care · Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:10 pm

I haven't personally tried this line, but I do take supplements and notice skin and overall health have increased. I don't know that the brand is that important; what's critical is the bioavailability of the supplements you take, which is why I tend to lean toward food-based, organic supplements.

My musthave supplements:
omega 3-6-9 [Nordic Naturals]
Alive!! - multivitamin
Host Defense - New Chapter
Tumeric Force - New Chapter
Zyflammend - New Chapter
Critical Antioxidants - New Chapter
Source Naturals - multi mineral complex
E food complex - New Chapter
C food complex - New Chapter

Just started taking MSM a couple weeks ago, have yet to notice any difference. During my PMS, I'll beef up on the Vitamin B

free skin care · Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:23 pm

Thanks athena 123, there're so many supplements out there that it's hard to choose from. I always wonder if the body can actually absorb everything at the same time. For example, u take so many different supplements, do u take it all at the same time or at different intervals? Would it conflict with each other? Question

free skin care · Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:36 pm

It really depends on your skin. Fish oils are good for your skin and general well being. Zinc & Vitamin A are good for acne.

free skin care · Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:12 pm

I try to eat a well balanced diet. Supplements are kept to a minimum:

Vit. C Ester 1000 mgs.
MSM 1000 mgs.
Salmon Oil 2000 mgs.

Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:09 pm

Has anyone tried royal jelly? My mom says it's just given her a boost in energy and I was wondering if there are other noticable effects? Up until a couple months ago I didn't even know royal jelly could be consumed. Man am I slow Very Happy

free skin care · Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:35 am

Stardustdy wrote:

Thanks athena 123, there're so many supplements out there that it's hard to choose from. I always wonder if the body can actually absorb everything at the same time. For example, u take so many different supplements, do u take it all at the same time or at different intervals? Would it conflict with each other? Question

I only take 1/2 the recommended amount of Alive!! multi-vitamins, so I don't overdo it. Since they're foodbased, I take them all in the AM on an empty stomach without any ill effects and they'll still be properly absorbed. I'm just too lazy to carry around my supplements to I can take them at intervals throughout the day Very Happy

I eat a fairly balanced diet with lots whole grain, fruits and veggies, but it's just not possible for me to eat 5 servings of fruit and 6 servings of veggies on a daily basis. To obtain all the recommended nutrients from food alone, I'd spend all day eating who has the time for that? My morning supplements are a way of hedging my bets...

free skin care · Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:08 pm

athena123, yeah I agree with u that it's hard to obtain the recommended servings of fruits & veggies in a day. Some of the supplements said to take with meals. I guess it doesn't matter what time of the day I take it. I always feel that perhaps if I take the supplements at different times of the day, it will be absorbed more efficiently. Smile

free skin care · Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:12 pm

I agree it's hard juggling all the supplements some days. I absolutely believe in them though after seeing the results in my hair, skin, & nails. On those days when I just can't choke them all down I mix up some VEGA; it contains loads of wonderful things: EFA, vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, fiber, protein, carbs, calcium, Macasure (for hormonal balance and energy), in addition to many other beneficial ingredients. And it's vegan. **Thanks to GroovyChick for reminding me of this SuperFood** www.myvega.com available in Canada, and online in US.
It comes in plain, berry, and chocolate flavours. Chocolate is the best IMO.

free skin care · Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:21 pm

Stardustdy wrote:

athena123, yeah I agree with u that it's hard to obtain the recommended servings of fruits & veggies in a day. Some of the supplements said to take with meals. I guess it doesn't matter what time of the day I take it. I always feel that perhaps if I take the supplements at different times of the day, it will be absorbed more efficiently. Smile

star, The one thing I DON'T have to worry about whether they need to be taken with a meal or no; since my vits are all food-based the point is moot.

I have heard opposing views about whether it's better to take supps at night or in the am or spread throughout the day. Trying to juggle when I take my vits just isn't something I'm inclined to do, so I just take them in the morning. Otherwise I'd probably forget Very Happy

On once occassion, I had to do without all my supplements for a couple of weeks - that's when I noticed a BIG difference, basically by LACK. I was a little more tired, less energetic, my skin was just a little more dull, as was my mind. Once I was back on my daily intake, I was back to my old self again in a week.

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:57 am

Well you have to think that those numbers are variations, according to the type of system you have. As a woman, it would be illogical to believe that you could consume what, 11 servings a day? I'd go crazy, too! However, aiming for the 4-6 range is much more effective, especially since I believe the American serving size is a measly half cup- which is hardly anything.

Here is some information I pulled from the USDA- imagine, here in Canada, our servings are a bit bigger, and it's still quite easy to fulfill at least 2 thirds of the daily recommendations. No wonder you girls are experiencing skin fluctuations- vegetables especially are very good for cleaning out the system and maintaining a healthy appearance. Eating supplements is just mimicking that behaviour, so I'm unsure why most would choose to supplement their diets with...supplements. Nothing beats the real thing. Barring a nutrient deficiency, I wouldn't rely on supplements to hydrate my skin, especially when getting the recommended servings are soooo much easier than you think. Plus, think of all the phytochemicals and such that you're lacking when you choose pills over real food.

http://www.5aday.org/html/consumers/serving.php

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:57 am

I'm not too sure about this...it's becoming more & more apparent that 'real food' isn't exactly 'real' anymore & is loaded with chemicals anyway.

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:59 pm

I like to throw it all in a blender and make a smoothie sometimes: a lemon (peeled), plums, blueberries, guava, agave nectar, whatever is ripe. Makes getting those 5 servings easier!!

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:06 pm

marina wrote:

I'm not too sure about this...it's becoming more & more apparent that 'real food' isn't exactly 'real' anymore & is loaded with chemicals anyway.

That's why knowing who you're buying from or going organic is best. Vegetables and fruits aren't really loaded with chemicals anyway...the only thing to be cautious about is pesticides. Trace amounts in produce certainly are no reason to abolish them altogether and go with synthetic products (which are loaded with other stuff as well).

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:14 pm

FrevaKZ wrote:

Well you have to think that those numbers are variations, according to the type of system you have. As a woman, it would be illogical to believe that you could consume what, 11 servings a day? I'd go crazy, too! However, aiming for the 4-6 range is much more effective, especially since I believe the American serving size is a measly half cup- which is hardly anything.

Here is some information I pulled from the USDA- imagine, here in Canada, our servings are a bit bigger, and it's still quite easy to fulfill at least 2 thirds of the daily recommendations. No wonder you girls are experiencing skin fluctuations- vegetables especially are very good for cleaning out the system and maintaining a healthy appearance. Eating supplements is just mimicking that behaviour, so I'm unsure why most would choose to supplement their diets with...supplements. Nothing beats the real thing. Barring a nutrient deficiency, I wouldn't rely on supplements to hydrate my skin, especially when getting the recommended servings are soooo much easier than you think. Plus, think of all the phytochemicals and such that you're lacking when you choose pills over real food.

http://www.5aday.org/html/consumers/serving.php

Um, FrevaKZ, if you choose not to take supplements that is up to you, but the blanket statement "no wonder you girls are experiencing skin fluctuations...." sounds a wee bit like a lecture. I'm very fortunate that other than the occasional zit during my monthlys, I really don't HAVE fluctuations.

Other than the challenge posed by eating the recommended daily allowance of all the fiber, fruits, veggies, etc. etc. every day, how do I really KNOW how much nutrients I'm obtaining from my food? I try to eat organic as much as possible, but that depends upon availability.

You make a good point about the necessity of whole foods - rather than try to isolate one component to include in their vitamins, the brand I take is a FOOD BASED, containing all the phytonutrients and complexity of whole food. If you're interested, take a gander at New Chapter website to see what it's all about.

free skin care · Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:47 pm

athena123 wrote:

I have heard opposing views about whether it's better to take supps at night or in the am or spread throughout the day. Trying to juggle when I take my vits just isn't something I'm inclined to do, so I just take them in the morning. Otherwise I'd probably forget Very Happy

Same here - I take them all in the morning, even though I know some are best if the dosage is spread throughout the day. But if I forget to take it midday, then I'm not taking it at all, so that is my compromise. My husband takes all of his at night with the same reasoning.

athena123 wrote:

On once occassion, I had to do without all my supplements for a couple of weeks - that's when I noticed a BIG difference, basically by LACK. I was a little more tired, less energetic, my skin was just a little more dull, as was my mind. Once I was back on my daily intake, I was back to my old self again in a week.

I have heard that it's good to give supplements a break periodically....not necessarily all or nothing, but for each supplement, to go off for 4-6 days, then back on for 3-4 weeks. It has something to do with them working best when reintroduced over and over. To be honest, I can't remember the exact explanation but it was from a co-worker of mine who is a DOM and herbologist. It could be that she was only referring to botanicals though.

Betsy

free skin care · Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:04 am

athena123 wrote:

Um, FrevaKZ, if you choose not to take supplements that is up to you, but the blanket statement "no wonder you girls are experiencing skin fluctuations...." sounds a wee bit like a lecture. I'm very fortunate that other than the occasional zit during my monthlys, I really don't HAVE fluctuations.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off holier than thou, I was just responding to the apparent belief in this thread that supplements=good skin, when all you have to do is just eat properly in day to day life.

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Other than the challenge posed by eating the recommended daily allowance of all the fiber, fruits, veggies, etc. etc. every day, how do I really KNOW how much nutrients I'm obtaining from my food? I try to eat organic as much as possible, but that depends upon availability.

It's just label reading and a bit of homework doing. Since I'm in a diet transition in my life (eliminating dairy sources of calcium, cutting out most meats, etc) I've done a lot of reading and talking to my physician about the ins and outs of nutrient absorption, and although intimidating at first, it requires no more than a willingness to read what nutrients are properly digested with what. It's just careful planning and paying attention to nutritional labels.

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You make a good point about the necessity of whole foods - rather than try to isolate one component to include in their vitamins, the brand I take is a FOOD BASED, containing all the phytonutrients and complexity of whole food. If you're interested, take a gander at New Chapter website to see what it's all about.

Yes, I've heard of the food-bases supplements, that sound much better than their bogus counterparts (and there's a lot on the market Rolling Eyes

) More power to you, if you've made that decision.

free skin care · Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:05 am

FrevaKZ wrote:

It's just label reading and a bit of homework doing. Since I'm in a diet transition in my life (eliminating dairy sources of calcium, cutting out most meats, etc) I've done a lot of reading and talking to my physician about the ins and outs of nutrient absorption, and although intimidating at first, it requires no more than a willingness to read what nutrients are properly digested with what. It's just careful planning and paying attention to nutritional labels.

It's very easy to read labels when they're provided, and it's something I make a habit of doing. But then again, most of the product I buy in the produce section don't really have any labels! Laughing

With soil depletion on large commercial farms, the amount of nutrition varies a great deal although buying organic spinach is likely to provide more of the nutrition and trace elements than conventional farming. supplements fill this gap quite nicely.

I can see your point about the misconception that supplements alone can be the "cureall" for beautiful skin. For the most part, good skin health originates from inner health. If you eat junk food all the time, drink too much alcohol and don't drink enough water and depend upon supplements for great health, results are likely to be less than optimal.

free skin care · Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:58 am

Now I feel embarrassed, athena Embarassed

I didn't even think of the fact that perhaps where you shop, produce doesn't have labels Laughing

Most of mine does, and for the cases where they don't (loose baby spinach, for example) I spend hours at the computer getting the lowdown on nutritional value via many good resources (http://www.whfoods.com/ is an awesome place to start) so I always have a general idea of nutrient intake.

Anyway, I guess now that if anyone's interested in this sort of thing, they can always look around and do some research to get a general idea.

Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:35 am

I use Sage & Comfrey from the Body shop for my whole face. It's a small tube that you use before moisturiser and dries your small spots and whiteheads up a treat, plus it makes your make-up really smooth with your make-up on.
I would always try those before suppliments, you can get the same thing from fresh fruit and veg as you can from suppliments.
Good luck! x

Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:39 am

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