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Anyone heard of Ultratone - A guy looking for advice
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:16 am      Reply with quote
Hi there,

Just registered with Essential Day Spa today. I most say I am very impressed with the amount of info. available. I am a 40 year old guy who likes to take care of his skin. Since I started to read the forum last Sunday I have decided to take a chance and buy the Baby Quasar. I was thinking of buying a Nulase of Beurer product - but I am sceptical of their real value. I already use a product called Ultratone which I believe is similar to NuFace or Tua Face which I both believe are "lifting" products. Just wondering what all you ladies think of my skin strategy and whether any of you have heard of Ultratone. It's an English product which I purchased over 10 years ago and is still working well. Anyone, thanks for letting me rant on and looking to your view.
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:04 am      Reply with quote
Hi Fustia and welcome! I don't know anything about these facial devices unfortunately but others who do use it may be able to offer a little more help if you let us know what your skintype and concerns are.

Best of luck to you,

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Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:38 pm      Reply with quote
I would get a LightStim or other LED item like the DPL as it will cover a larger area than the Nulase or Beurer lasers. The lasers are small and you have to do a lot of work if you want to cover a large area.

The best product for you really depends on the skin issues you are targeting, what you are looking for, how much time you are willing to devote, etc. Can you give us at EDS more info about what you are looking for the device to do and your skin "issues"?

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Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:06 am      Reply with quote
Thank You Athenna and lunarmm for your replies,

My main aim at the moment is more preventive than anything else. I use sunblock regularly and don't smoke (anymore) which is a good start. I guess I am trying to do as much as possible to help the anti-ageing process (without losing the run of myself). I use the hand held ultratone for toning and firming. I really think all these microcurrent machines do the same thing.

As I said I was going to get the Nulase or Beurer but let's be honest, how effective can a laser run on small battery be? Maybe I am wrong and I would love to hear other opinions.
I am sold on the Baby Quasar as it seems to offer a different angle to skin care. Hopefully it works. I also use various creams, serums etc.

The whole area of skincare can be bewildering if you let it be. I think the best thing is to devise a system and change it to suit your needs and any new developments.

Anyway, would love to hear any advice you have. And thanks again for your kind replies. Very Happy Embarassed
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:46 am      Reply with quote
The lasers are powerful, it's very concentrated energy and penetrates deep into the skin. But because it is so concentrated, the laser does not cover a large area - really just a dot at a time (a bit larger as you move the device in a circle). If you have a large area to cover, treatment would be time intensive. If you are targetting a small area, like crow's feet (being careful to close your eyes; even wear tanning goggles to cover the pupils as well) - this might be a good device for that.

Thus, my recommendation for an LED device that covers a larger area. Some examples of LED devices are (in order of expense): the LightStim, DPL panels, Baby Quasar, and the big daddy: Quasar SP.

You can read tons of info on all of these by doing a search on the EDS forums. Have fun exploring Bad Grin

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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:25 pm      Reply with quote
Is it O.K. to use both Laser and LED together?
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:39 pm      Reply with quote
Yes. I'm pretty sure there are some people who use the LED for broader areas and then go over and pinpoint "problem" areas with the laser.

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Thank you Lunarmm and Athena for all your information and for making my introduction to the forum so pleasant. No doubt I will be annoying you for more advice very soon.

Cheers,

Noel.
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Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:47 am      Reply with quote
some have asked if lasers powered by batteries are as effective as leds.

sure, laser pointers and other low powered devices with tiny power sources won't work well but.....if you have a well made product with sufficient laser power combining infrared led stimulation it could be another story.

do the research and you will see why doctors use lasers ...... laser light is "coherent" and led light is not. we are mostly water and lasers remain focused through water far better than leds...they penetrate better...ever been to a laser light show? probably never been to the cheaper led flashlight show though most likely.

the only led devices doctors use .... ipl...(clinical and very expensive to buy) are waaaaaaaay more powerful than these led flashlight devices and that is why doctors don't save the space and money and just use "bq" on you:). actually doctors use high powered ipl for the reason that, yes, they do treat large areas by simply blasting pulsed massive dosage through your skin requiring cooling gels or topical anethesia. no laser clinical devices treat such large areas as they would work far better but would be unwieldy and extremely expensive.

so lasers can work if the beam pattern is tight & power density is high and they actually do have real optics in them....they really are made for small wrinkles and imperfections.

sorry for the long post.
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