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Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:09 pm  |
| I had been using the facial flex for awhile,I actually stopped using it because I had the permanent filler artefill and wasnt sure if I should use it right away....anyway I know there are 2 sides to this :one side says yes,you exercise your body to keep it in shape,why not the face?BUT I saw Joey Buttofuco's wife on Utube.com. She had plastic surgery because when she got shot by Joey's lover(remember Aimee?) she shot her in the face and hence one side of her face was paralyzed. Well,years later geuss what!The side of her face that was paralyzed had not aged:no wrinkles,whereas the face that was not paralyzed had aged and had wrinkles-she needed surgery to "even out her looks". SO........does that mean its bad to exercise your face and maybe just botox yourself to paralyze all your muscles so it cant make a wrinkle might be better???!!!!Confused here! |
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:44 pm |
I guess not making face movements prevents lines forming but i dont think face exercises cause wrinkles....its just all the repetitive smiling frowning etc over the yrs that will do it. Toned muscles should stop the sag happening making skin more resistance to lines/sagging. Just what i think anyway.
And id rather have a few lines that be botoxed to death - some people just start to look odd with it. Their faces have no character. |
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Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:45 am |
| I think if its done properly it looks natural,nobody had ever noticed I had been botoxed,just that I looked younger.It seems even drs. cant agree on this subject,some drs. say botox is not the way to go,others say its good because it prevents you from getting a wrinkle because you cant keep doing those bad habits like frowning.....who knows!I love botox but I dont do it very often anymore because it only lasts 6 weeks, not 6 months. |
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Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:49 pm |
You age from two things. Loosing collagen and elastin in the skin. (You loose 1% of your bodies collagen every year after you turn 40.) And over use of muscles. That is why you get smile lines. Think about it. If you have a piece of fabric for example, and every single day you fold it in the same spot hundreds of times. After 40 years don’t you think you would have lines? So if you add extra movement to it like these “facial exercises” it would make lines worse.
My best advice for aging skin:
Staying out of the sun, SUNSCREEN!
Antioxidants, fights off free radicals, Vitamin A (Retin A) Reduces fine lines/exfoliant and Vitamin C Helps stimulate collagen
A hyaluronic acid serum, hydrates, plumps and smoothes and what the body naturally produces.
And a little secret for women going through menopause…..bio identical hormones. Look it up! |
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Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:45 pm |
| Well going by my own experience doing some eye exercises i dont agree it makes them worse. My upper eye lids are firmer. my lower eye lids arent creasing up as much when i smile. Most who do them swear by it. |
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39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:00 pm |
The repetitive everyday expressions are what causes most wrinkles, they don't call them "laugh lines" for nothing.
Being a nurse, I've taken care of many patients who had strokes; not one, no matter what their age, had wrinkles....The reason why they don't is simple, the facial muscles, along with every thing else, experiences paralysis. All muscles are in a "relaxed" state.
As far as facial exercise goes, in my humble opinion, it's a good thing, especially from age 40 on. But do it while looking in the mirror, so you don't squinch your face unnecessarily.
I also recommend a piece of tape across the horizontal lines on the forehead every night before going to bed........You'd be amazed at the contorted faces we all make while we sleep. And for those of you that sleep on your back, you'll experience wrinkle free skin for a hell of a lot longer than those of us who cozy up on our sides......
Just my two cents.........sleep tight! |
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:04 pm |
ok Kassy but why would you exercise a face when you think paralysis is good for a face? On this one I am perplexed! I was using the facial flex but have stopped and am considering redoing my botox every 3 mos, that longterm you may actually have less wrinkles if you use botox because you wont expressions that give wrinkles. And yes I sleep on my back and sometimes I use "frownies",those little tape things, they actually do help a lot when my husband sees me he just rolls his eyes and shakes his ead!  |
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:25 pm |
| lucyluc wrote: |
| ok Kassy but why would you exercise a face when you think paralysis is good for a face? On this one I am perplexed! I was using the facial flex but have stopped and am considering redoing my botox every 3 mos, that longterm you may actually have less wrinkles if you use botox because you wont expressions that give wrinkles. And yes I sleep on my back and sometimes I use "frownies",those little tape things, they actually do help a lot when my husband sees me he just rolls his eyes and shakes his ead! |
The point I was trying to make is that when muscles are paralyzed, as in stroke or botox, no wrinkls forms, because the muscle can't contract.
Exercising the face muscles, keeps everything from getting flat and atrophied. And I suppose the puffed up muscles, would fill out wrinkles a bit as well.
Good for you though that you can sleep on your back, I wish I could. |
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:25 pm |
 Morjorie Newlin is an 84 year old great grandmother.
It is difficult to imagine that this body belongs to 84 year old!  Newlin got this the body by exercising. Now imagine how she would look like with good skin care, but without exercising.... It is a parallel example with the facial exercises....
Multiple elements contribute to the appearance: skin + muscles + bones + attitude. We need to take care of ourselves from all the different angles, and find the right balance. I feel that facial exercises can help with muscle tone.
I have been doing facial exercises with positive results. As with everything, we need to find what is right for an individual through trial and error, and with suggestions from each other. Facial exercises are not an exception.
Kassy_A gave excellent suggestions on exercises such as mirror, etc. |
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:47 pm |
| mpstat, thank you for sharing! It is quite motivating! |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:39 am |
| I dont really like the muscley look on men let alone women and it look a little freaky on an 84 yr old. |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:13 am |
Different people have different ideas of the beauty and where they want to go. I do not want to look "age natural" from the muscles prospective, I want to have toned muscles... This is where I see exercise might help.
Need to say that I do not exercise in general, (I am slim and have good figure) but realise that need to start exercising if I want to have toned muscles as opposed to sluggish ones. At the same time I do facial exercises and see progress, in some areas more then the others, but there is good progress overall. 
PS: Morjorie Newlin is a body building champion, not many can achieve what she did.... I do find her example as inspirational one. |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:33 am |
| mpstat wrote: |
| PS: Morjorie Newlin is a body building champion, not many can achieve what she did.... I do find her example as inspirational one. |
Absolutely! |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:52 pm |
I'm not sure whether facial exercises are good or bad in the long run but let me tell you a story about me. I love running. I live in Vancouver near the stanley park and I run a few times a week around the seawall. it's absolutely gorgeous. I see raccoons, swans, ducks and sea otters and big ships sitting in the mist on the horizon. It's such a joy and I get a real high from running fast and pushing myself. Well, about a year ago I read an article about how running causes the face to droop and sag from the constant pulling on the facial muscles. All of a sudden my runs went from pure bliss and enjoyment of nature to panic about what I was doing to my face. I started picturing all those gaunt, hollow-faced marathon runners. So I started power walking. Well, nothing replaces the buzz of running. Finally I woke up and realised that a few runs a week wasn't going to ruin my face and if it did, well so what. Running improves circulation, mood, builds muscle tone and creates a sense of well-being. I could be a prisoner of beauty or I could do what I love doing. I chose running.
That said, I love my botox. (Hey, I admit I'm a hypocrite)  |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:26 pm |
| Wow the 84 year old looks great! She looks better than most 40 year olds! Once we are past 40, for every year we don't use our muscles, we lose 1% of them. Thats why we see people with skinny arms and legs, flat butts and big guts! Exercising is essential and face muscles too! I also beleive in Botox, I use it in my forehead as I also squint at the computer or when I concentrate then I get a headache, no more with Botox! Amen! |
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:05 pm |
Actually running does cause facial sagging,not only that it ruins your knees, but makes a lot of orthopedic surgeons wealthy.  I do work out with weights daily,it helps to lose weight, firm muscles burn more calories to maintain than fat. |
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:53 pm |
I began a couple of weeks ago doing Facercise and Facial Flex. At first I didn't like the Facercise. It almost made me nauseated when I did it, a strange, queasy feeling. I was exercising muscles I had never flexed before, but I spent around $50 getting 2 DVDs and a book, and I was determined to keep at it. Glad I did. It's feeling good now. I wake up in the morning and do the exercises before I get out of bed.
My face is already developing shape where there was none, my eyes are looking wider, and I "feel" the muscles even when my face is still.
When I smiled today at a friend, I realized that I used to smile just with my lips, and now I feel it all over my face. I'm on the beginning exercises now, but I plan to do the whole program.
I don't want a face lift or injections, and this is something I can do for myself. |
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I’m 60, never smoked, eat healthy, fitness center + hiking, lots of water and nutrients, size 4 jeans , some lower facial sagging, but it’s improving with AALS, Clarisonic, Remergent, L2K, (including her new hand held devices), Ageless exercises, peels, OCM, etc. “This is my face; deal with it.” Annette Bening |
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:27 pm |
Thanks for sharing a link. I've never thought such age still able to build muscles & live like that. It's amazing & encouraging!
Keep up to live good and nothing is impossible. |
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:59 pm |
| You can "tone up" muscles in your face all you want. Sure your eyes might look brighter because of the muscles. BUT, your SKIN, NOT muscles in your face will crease from over use of muscle. You can have the nicest face muscles around...but wrinkled skin. Does that make sense? |
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:40 pm |
| TheSkinGirl82 wrote: |
| You can "tone up" muscles in your face all you want. Sure your eyes might look brighter because of the muscles. BUT, your SKIN, NOT muscles in your face will crease from over use of muscle. You can have the nicest face muscles around...but wrinkled skin. Does that make sense? |
Actually, it doesn't...might I suggest that you look into dermarolling? If you review all of the studies on this topic, you will see that you CAN indeed rejuvenate the skin if you are interested in doing so. |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:22 am |
face exercises improve skintone and elasticity so actually help to decrease and prevent wrinkles
additionally the increased tone and volume in your muscles will help to fill out pre existing wrinkles
there are many factors involved with facial ageing, wrinkles are a small part, what will age you much more is loss of volume in your face
as we get older we lose fat and muscle in our face causing it to thin out, look flatter, and causing cheeks and eyes to sag
building your facial muscles through exercise reverses all of this and would make you look much younger than someone with a flat saggy botoxed line free face
ive been doing them 6 months and recently saw someone i havent seen for a few years and they were amazed at the difference in my face. i didnt say id been doing anything but they said i looked totally different
my face is a totally different shape now and i look 100% better. i would never touch botox again, if you use botox you are causing all the muscles around your eyes to atrophy which will also in the long run cause your eyes to sag droop and make you look older, not to mention a waste of money |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:22 am |
I have had the same experience as ellie and I have been doing facial exercises for one year. There are so many techniques, devices, and additive to improve the aging face, one does not need to look like a prune
Toby |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:14 am |
| I have good results with facial exercises. I can't live without them. |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:39 pm |
I've been running for years - and I'm 50 - mistaken for 30's - I dont overdue anything. Use sunscreen, have genetics on my side... No surgeries. I do an occasionally botox - forhead only since I have a terrible tendency to furrow and frown. It's been a Godsend. I've recently had Artefill (One carpule) and it was just enough in my nl folds (dang them). I use comprehensive skincare without fail.
sunscreen is a daily thing. And I don't hang in the sun.
Running has increased bloodflow, decreased fat. My body is tight - ex-gymnast and always worked out - weights and nutrition and cardiovascular work are the fountain of youth. I just ordered Flex Effect for my face and I'm ready to hit those "weights' next. I know it will be a good thing. |
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