Botox alternative
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:04 am

Can anyone recommend an alternative to Botox? I've searched this website and noticed a few products like Dr Brandt and Freeze 24/7. Vivier also makes one called TMR. Has anyone tried it? How does it compare with the other products?

free skin care · Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:54 am

Hi JanPalmer!

First off, welcome! Smile

As for botox alternatives, the only ones I've tried are Browtox (from PSF) and Relax-A-Line and Relax Plus with Vialox from Cellularskin RX. I used Browtox first and had good results, but now I'm using both "Relax" products and they have made a huge difference...what was a faint "11" between the brows is now invisible! Different things work for different people, but my face seems to really like the "Relax" products!

On that note, here is a thread comparing Browtox and Relax:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=12301&highlight=relaxaline+browtox

You can also do this search: "Browtox AND Relax-A-Line" and you'll get tons of threads talking about these products and others of a similar nature.

Hope this helps some!

Mary Smile

Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:52 am

Thanks for the info Mary, and for the threads ... very helpful. I'll check into both those products.

JanP

free skin care · Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:02 am

You're very welcome! Smile

Please post again once you've tried a product and let us know your results!

Mary

Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:22 am

I've tried Feeze 24-7 and I really didn't like the way it went on. I found a cheaper version called Insta-tox that works just as well without the thick putty/pilling problem. Did you like the Browtox?

free skin care · Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:29 am

I have been using Relax-A-Line and Relax Plus with Vialox for quite a while now. They work very well. The Relax-A-Line is great for the crow's feet where you don't need a super strong formula for relaxing the muscles. The Relax Plus with Vialox is much stronger and works well on my forehead/"11" lines. Neither is one of those tightening/instant facelift products. They work over time....and the effects are additive. Now, after using both for so long, I use them about every three days or so...No more twice a day as I did initially.

free skin care · Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:51 am

I wonder if relaxing is a real good mechanism for skin care. In my opinion, tightening is better.

free skin care · Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:08 pm

I have tried all of the products including botox and let me tell u there is NOTHING that can even compare to botox. Botox actually prevents you from getting wrinkles because you dont make the expressions that give u the wrinkles in the first place. Case in point; when a person has a stroke and has half of the face paralyzed,20 yrs later the paralyzed side has no wrinkles while the other side has wrinkles.

free skin care · Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:10 am

Freeze did absolutely nothing for me. I'm another Relax-A-Line fan.

Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:58 pm

I was going to ask....why not try botox?

I've recently had my crows feet and brow done and I love it. I thought it would make me look like a rabbit in the headlights, but let me tell you it is so subtle and fabulous that I will definitely be getting it done again (just have to wait to fall pregnant have the kid and stop breastfeeding).

The effects of Botox are supposed to last approx. 3 months. I would recommend it to everyone.

It is a bit scary at first (I'd heard a lot of horror stories) but now LOVE IT!!

I have full feeling in all parts of my face, but now my husband doesn't get the full force of my angry face - he should be grateful.

free skin care · Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:09 am

Nixon wrote:

I was going to ask....why not try botox?

I've recently had my crows feet and brow done and I love it. I thought it would make me look like a rabbit in the headlights, but let me tell you it is so subtle and fabulous that I will definitely be getting it done again (just have to wait to fall pregnant have the kid and stop breastfeeding).

The effects of Botox are supposed to last approx. 3 months. I would recommend it to everyone.

It is a bit scary at first (I'd heard a lot of horror stories) but now LOVE IT!!

I have full feeling in all parts of my face, but now my husband doesn't get the full force of my angry face - he should be grateful.

For me, although I'm a little wary of botox anyway, the reason I don't use it is that I can't afford it.

free skin care · Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:23 am

My useful Dr Brandt and Freeze 24/7 washing the face ,Very good, if EDS had these two products to be good

free skin care · Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:24 am

lucyluc wrote:

... let me tell u there is NOTHING that can even compare to botox.

Lucy you never met my mother. Definitely better than botox Laughing

When I was a child my mother constantly, and I mean constantly, was at me, “DON’T FROWN, YOU’LL GET WRINKLES”
So much so, that to this day I can not, even if I try, cause my forehead to scrunch up/wrinkle. If I try, I can almost do the 11’s thing, sort of. But I certainly don’t have a single wrinkle in that area and I’m pushing 50 now.

I guess if you don’t use the muscles they atrophy/waste away and I learnt as a youngster not to dare frown... LOL I thought my mom was a complete nutter back then, but I have to say I’m grateful now
(and also grateful for that weird opaque sunblock thing, zinc oxide base i think, that she smeared all over my face every day that the other kids always laughed at)

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