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Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:14 pm  |
i thought i read a while ago about a DIY hair treatment that enhanced the color and glossiness of hair if applied before coloring.
Could someone direct me to it please?
I believe that carekate was the originator... |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:21 pm |
| thanks, i tried that first but couldn't find what i was looking for.... |
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:41 am |
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CareKate wrote:
I wanted to share my fave new trick when using my beloved Wella Color Charm DIY hair color: *before* dying my hair, I apply a homemade protein treatment consisting of avocado, jojoba, grapeseed and coconut oils and let it set in for 15-20 minutes, then I prepare my hair-dye mixture and apply it directly *over* the protein treatment (i.e.: without rinsing the oil out first).
You cannot even BEGIN to imagine how much shinier your hair turns out when you’ve finished and are blow drying and styling your glossy new color!!!! It completely blew me away because it looked like I had applied a clear-gloss "sealant" after I colored, or else slicked on some shine serum to my hair before blow-drying even though I hadn’t!
I actually came up with the idea for applying the protein/oil treatment before doing my color when I saw one of those Sarah Jessica Parker commercials where she’s hawking Garnier Nutrisse hair color and she says what makes Nutrisse so wonderful is the fact that the dye actually contains "nourishing avocado and grapeseed oils." That’s when the little light bulb went off in CareKate’s head and she had a brainstorm!
So anyway, even if you guys are only using some drugstore hair dye kit, you should really try applying the protein treatment first before you actually put the dye on your hair.
Alright, I know exactly what you guys are thinking: "Won’t the protein/oil treatment interfere with the penetration of the dye?" And the answer is a complete,resounding, "No!!!" If anything it makes the color penetrate more evenly so the weaker areas on the hair shaft don't "grab" too much color.
I really think I must be on to something with the protein/oil treatment before coloring because I’m a big fan of the Phytolagie line of hair products, specifically their Phytocitrus shampoo and Phytocitrus hair mask – it’s great for "refreshing" your highlights once they start to fade and get brassy looking. Although the Phyto line is actually best known as the hair products that all the "Baywatch Babes" used on the set to keep the sun and surf from destroying their peroxide-blonde hair.
Anyway, when I was at one of my beauty boutiques yesterday arranging a CP for an MUA member, they had a Phytocitrus shampoo/hair mask bonus set that included a sample of a pre-coloring intensive hair treatment and when I checked the ingredients, it was basically a blend of several oils (jojoba/avocado/grapeseed) and essential oils, and when I checked the instructions for usage for this treatment, it said something like "Bring this treatment along to your salon and tell your stylist to apply it immediately before any coloring service, do not rinse." And you won’t believe this: Phyto sells full-size tubes of this pre-color treatment for around $15 per vial!! You can make the same damn stuff from items that you probably already have in your kitchen or bathroom.
BTW, I also color my mom’s hair with my beloved Wella Color Charm dye which I custom-blend to give her what she claims is "the best home hair color results that I’ve ever used" and keep in mind that she’s been dying her hair since the early days when "Miss Clairol" was first born! Anyway, I colored her hair last weekend and this time I used the DIY protein treatment on her before I applied the dye, and again it gave her incredibly shiny, incredibly even-looking results! You guys have got to give this a try next time you color your hair!
Okay, so last night I needed to re-tint my lashes so I look great in the inevitable upcoming Thanksgiving family holiday photos so I started thinking and said to myself, "Self, I wonder what would happen if you applied a protein treatment to your *lashes* before you tint them...?" Now this sounded like a mighty fine idea to me and -- being your ever-faithful guinea pig -- I decided to try it:
I applied a bit of my L'oreal Natures Therapy Mega Moisture protein treatment (just because it was pre-made in a bottle so I didn't have to fuss with making a homemade version but a homemade protein treatment would work just as good) with a clean mascara spooly wand and let it dry completely, then I mixed up a bit of the 1000 Hours Lash Tint and applied it as I normally do using the "Application on Self" instructions and I rinsed my lashes and cleaned them with a bit of my Yonka Nettoyant Gel cleanser and looked in the mirror to see if the protein treatment beforehand had made a significant difference in the results....
Great hopping fleas -- if you think your lashes look great after using 1000 Hours now, just wait until you get a look at the results after you apply it over a protein treatment!!!! My lashes came out even darker and more glossy looking than usual. I mean REALLY darker and more glossy!
Please ladies: you've *got* to try this the next time you tint your lashes and see the difference for yourselves. |
this is what i was looking for....i'm going to try it soon...Carekate, have you posted the recipe proportions somewhere? Could you let me know how much of each ingredient please?
My hair will thank you  |
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:32 am |
| I want to color my hair this weekend, and would love to try this. Can anyone tell me the proportions & amount to use? |
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:15 pm |
I use this leave-in spray called Solar Recover that I get at Whole Foods.
Ingredients:
Distilled water, essential oils of Vitamin E, avocado, coconut, jojoba, calendula, lavender and lemongrass.
Works great - I'm going to try the homemade pre-colour treatment as well |
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Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:53 pm |
I was hoping for a reply on how to make this, but didn't get any. I just HAD to color my hair this weekend, so I gave it a try.
I mixed equal amounts of all the oils, massaged it into my hair & left it on for 20 minutes before applying the color.
Thank you Carekate!! 
My color came out great & my hair feels so soft!
From now on, I will do this treatment every time before I color!! |
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Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:53 am |
| kls wrote: |
I was hoping for a reply on how to make this, but didn't get any. I just HAD to color my hair this weekend, so I gave it a try.
I mixed equal amounts of all the oils, massaged it into my hair & left it on for 20 minutes before applying the color.
Thank you Carekate!!
My color came out great & my hair feels so soft!
From now on, I will do this treatment every time before I color!! |
Sorry, I was out sick last week and didn't get back near a computer until Monday and then I was swamped and didn't see this post till now.
But it turns out that you did exactly the right thing! Just mix a few of your fave oils together and apply it to CLEAN, dry hair and leave it on then apply the hair colorant mixture over this. After you've rinsed the dye out, make sure to use a deep conditioning treatment to add back moisture to your hair.
If you don't want to mix your own oil treatment, you can use any store-bought/ready-made "hot oil treatment" or "protein treatment." When I'm lazy, I'll use the L'oreal Natures Therapy treatment I get from Sallys Beauty supply which is the product line that is the "generic" version of L'oreal's pricey Keratase line.
Anyway, I'm glad you were able to figure it out and the results turned out well for you! |
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:57 am |
Hope you're feeling better Carekate!  |
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:14 am |
I have been wondering on how to make my colour take on better. Glad I found this post!
Will definitely try a protein treatment before I colour. |
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:52 am |
Thanks for bumping this up. I hadn't noticed this post before.
Oddly enough, I do use oils on my hair regularly, mostly emu or the Philip B Rejuvenating, but had always made sure not to use them before colouring in case it affected how the colour would take. Will definitely give this a try next time I colour. Thanks for the tip. My hair needs all the help it can get! |
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Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:34 pm |
Great tip carekate, will try the mask next week before colouring - glad you're feeling better also!
Shirley M |
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Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:12 am |
| cuppre wrote: |
| I have been wondering on how to make my colour take on better. |
In addition to the pre-color protein treatment, you might also want to try using this brand of hair color and/or including an additive like "Gray Magic" to your current brand of hair color to help your hair take the color better! http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7658 |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:00 am |
I am very interested in this recipe.
I've been looking on Australian ebay and can get all of the carrier oils listed on there.
Could I use this as a once a week mask before shampooing?
Thanks.
Emma x |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:16 am |
| Emma2006 wrote: |
I am very interested in this recipe.
I've been looking on Australian ebay and can get all of the carrier oils listed on there.
Could I use this as a once a week mask before shampooing?
Thanks.
Emma x |
Emma, are you trying to buy the coconut oil etc. Have you had a look at this website: http://newdirections.com.au/shop/products.php?&cp=1. It's in Marrickville and their oils are pretty cheap. |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:22 am |
Thank you Ninetynine.
I've just emailed someone in the UK and Marrickville would be a lot easier.
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:49 am |
| Thanks Ninetynine! Like Emma I am also in Australia so your recommendation is great! |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:29 am |
| Emma2006 wrote: |
| Could I use this as a once a week mask before shampooing? |
Yes, just make sure that you deep condition your hair afterwards: protein/hot oil treatments are FOOD to NOURISH your hair (or lashes, if you tint them!). Deep conditioners are a long, cool drink of water to MOISTURIZE and HYDRATE your hair (to “wash down that food”) afterwards – never do one without the other!! |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:57 am |
I'm sorry for asking such simple questions but it's not at all obvious to me:
1. Why is the oil treatment called a protein treatment?
2.What is a deep conditioner?
TIA!!!!! |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:51 am |
i was wondering the same thing!  I just used the protein treatment oils before shampooing and didn't condition afterward, i thought i had done that with the oils ...my hair is so so soft...i'm supposed to do another treatment after shampooing? |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:25 am |
| Agent OO-CAT wrote: |
I'm sorry for asking such simple questions but it's not at all obvious to me:
1. Why is the oil treatment called a protein treatment?
2.What is a deep conditioner?
TIA!!!!! |
1. Oils contain protein, protein feeds hair
2. Any product that hydrates and adds moisture to hair. |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:43 am |
| Thanks Carekate. I'm going to be the really annoying kid in class. Is a deep conditioner different from a regular conditioner? If so, how? |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:54 pm |
I think a deep conditioner is one you lave on for longer - say 20 minutes.
can anyone recommend some really good moisturising masks please (to help wash down the food  I like that analogy.
Emma x |
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Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:18 am |
| carekate wrote: |
| Agent OO-CAT wrote: |
I'm sorry for asking such simple questions but it's not at all obvious to me:
1. Why is the oil treatment called a protein treatment?
2.What is a deep conditioner?
TIA!!!!! |
1. Oils contain protein, protein feeds hair
2. Any product that hydrates and adds moisture to hair. |
Now I'm the one who doesn't understand. I thought by definition that oils/fats were different from proteins. (?) I just checked the nutrition labels on my olive and corns oils in the kitchen and both contain 0g protein.
I may have it all wrong as it's a very long time since I was in science class... and I was suspended a few times so I may have missed this part  |
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