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Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:38 pm      Reply with quote
I’ve been thinking about using Photo Rejuvenation facials to minimize the pores on my nose (nothing helps) and to improve the overall condition of my skin. The problem is I don’t have much knowledge on the procedure. I checked online and I see there are more than one type of light used. From what I understand IPL (Intense Pulsed Light) is stronger and works faster than LED (Light Emitting Duide), but can be damaging if not done correctly. I hear the LED is safer. I noticed there are a bunch of different colored lights (red, amber, yellow, green, blue etc.) for the LED. I’m not really sure what the difference is and which would be better for my skin. I think there are other types of Photo Rejuvenation procedures out there, but I’m not really sure.

I’m fairly young and I’m not sure if this would be beneficial or harmful. Considering my age and type of skin can someone be of guidance on what would be best for me? I know there is a big following of LED devices on EDS so I know there are knowledgeable people out there. I want to start with a few visits to a spa and then graduate to owning my own device if I see improvement. Please help!!!

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Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:14 pm      Reply with quote
I think you should consult a doctor on this who can examine your skin in person. Then you can ask all the questions directly and get an immediate response so you'd feel comfortable with the procedure.
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:39 pm      Reply with quote
Some interesting info on large pores than might help, Remy:

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Open Pores — Quick Fix Treatment and Lasting Prevention

Open pores are a leading concern irrespective of patient skin type and age. Treatment of open pores is complicated by a number of issues:
inappropriate facial cleansers (frequently too alkaline or too drying) which lead to hardened wax plugs and/or a seemingly paradoxical increase in oil production that keeps pores visibly distended;
over-involved treatment (regimens of pre-cleansers, cleansers, toners, masks) which can lead to an overworking the skin — specifically, mild or subclinical irritation which prevents the development of an even tone and rested appearance which would otherwise effectively normalize the appearance of pores;
• stress, which encourages excess oil flow and raised nasolabial folds;
• environmental damage and chronological aging which reduce skin elasticity overall, and thus that of the pore walls as well, be they congested or not.

Effective topical means are limited and concise. There is no need for drama.
• Use a non-irritating, slightly acidic facial cleanser to prevent further hardening of embedded facial oils. Preferably use one of Gernetic Derma, Jan Marini Bioglycolic Facial Cleanser or Skinceuticals Foaming Cleanser, none of which require the use of toner afterwards. Toners can complicate treatment unnecessarily and are of placebo value only.
• Minimize product use when commencing treatment of open pores. Stick to one "treatment" product only (this doesn't include sunscreen during the day).
• Forget plant extracts and aromatherapy — pores which appear consistently open are difficult to treat and these indirect and inadequately specific ingredients have no role to play when a thorough, "once and for all" solution is sought.
• Squeezing, steaming and facials with extraction (having someone squeeze or vacuum your face for you) are also only temporarily effective.

For quick treatment of visibly open pores, of any age:
AM — use one of the above recommended cleansers, apply Jan Marini Bioclear Lotion (combination/oily skin) or Cream (normal/dry skin), apply an additional inert moisturizer such as Cetaphil Lotion (combination/oily skin) or Cetaphil Cream (normal/dry skin) and finish with the obligatory dermatological sunscreen, ensuring it offers protection of 400 nm — in other words, Jan Marini SPF 30 or Skinceuticals SPF 20/30 [compare].

PM — use one of the above recommended cleansers, apply Skinceuticals Evening Pure Retinol (0.5 % to begin with before graduating to 1% at the completion of the original bottle). Recent Visia results comparing the Jan Marini and Skinceuticals Retinol offers relevant discussion regarding the performance of these retinol products. Alternatively, patients can obtain prescription retinoic acid by referral where appropriate for treatment. Leave retinol for 10-15 minutes before applying additional moisturizer (as per AM, above), sparingly, if necessary.

For lasting prevention: Ongoing prevention simply constitutes continuing the above, with the addition of a pH 3.2 10-20% ascorbic acid serum such as Skinceuticals Serum 20 AOX+ to maintain/restore pore elasticity. Scale back use and change additional moisturizer (if used) only if recommended. The frequency of retinoid use will usually increase from the second week of open pore treatment, as retinol is ultimately more effective than the other ingredients employed here in preventing visible pores over the longer term. Retinol's benefits are also more durable than Jan Marini Bioclear's trio of waste removers/skin renewers. Individuals with combination or oily skin in particular should review the recommendations for enhancing absorption and penetration of topical Vitamin C, particularly if using Skinceuticals C E Ferulic or another lipid rich antioxidant.

Additional Notes: For a stronger or faster treatment, under expert care and recommendation only, you may combine Bioclear Lotion or Cream with Skinceuticals Evening Pure Retinol or Jan Marini Factor A Plus Lotion or Cream up to twice daily.

http://www.treatment-skincare.com/April-2007/Open-Pores.html
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:00 pm      Reply with quote
havana8 wrote:

...• over-involved treatment (regimens of pre-cleansers, cleansers, toners, masks) which can lead to an overworking the skin — specifically, mild or subclinical irritation which prevents the development of an even tone and rested appearance which would otherwise effectively normalize the appearance of pores;



This is a really interesting point. I am not sure if I am guilty of this. How would I know for sure if I am over-stressing my skin?
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Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:03 am      Reply with quote
havana8, thanks for the info! I will definitely look into some of those treatments. Do you have experience with any of these products? The large pores have been an issue even when I had a very simple beauty regimen. Now I’ve been trying to take much better care of my skin, but I still can’t get rid of those pesky enlarged pores. I’ve been using toner for many years because my skin feels cleaner after use. I thought that would actually help minimize my pores. Sad

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